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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
Ahhhhhhh
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Running Version 60.0 here under WIN10 Still no "preferences" On 8/17/2018 5:15 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
v52.9.1, 64-bit build, Linux. --
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
That is the same version I used to confirm my
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instructions. -Chuck Harris Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
v52.9.1, 64-bit build, Linux.
-Dave On 08/17/2018 05:12 PM, `Richard Knoppow dickburk@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Which version do you have? -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
Which version do you have?
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On 8/17/2018 2:05 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
In my installation, the "Preferences" choice is near the bottom of the --
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Re: Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
In my installation, the "Preferences" choice is near the bottom of the
"Edit" pull-down menu. -Dave On 08/17/2018 05:03 PM, Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: I looked in both places. Per Chuck's instructions I see no choice called -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
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Mod thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
I looked in both places. Per Chuck's instructions I see no choice called "Preferences" and no apparent mention of filtering dupes
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-DC manuals@... On 8/17/2018 4:47 PM, `Richard Knoppow dickburk@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
The three bar thing is to the right of the search window. --
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Re: Test
Dale H. Cook
At 04:09 PM 8/17/2018, Pete wrote:
You'll note that I was slightly more clever - I disguised my "Test" message as a "collector intro" posting! :-) Mods: I would suggest deleting this topic after things get going...As you can see from the subject line it did not appear to be disguised. :-) Dale H. Cook, GR/HP/Tek Collector, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA |
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Mod Thunderbird to avoid dupes (Re: Re: Too many Messages!!)
Chuck
???????? On 8/17/2018 3:17 PM, Chuck Harris cfharris@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: (left click or right click ?) Commonly called a "hamburger" icon by today's /Millennial's/ 2) From the menu, click on "Preferences"I see no "Preferences" choice??? when the hamburger menu opens? Running latest 64 bit version here Are you running the latest version of Thunderbird and is it 32bit or 64Bit (running latest 64 bit version here) -DC manuals@... 3) From the preferences screen click on "Advanced"-- Dave Manuals@... www.ArtekManuals.com |
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Re: Too many Messages!!
I think it depends on how you have the task bar configured. I am running T bird 60.0, which I believe is the latest. On this version, on the task bar,
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Click on "Tools" Then click on "Options" At the top of the "Options" window is a row of ikons, Click on "Advanced" Near the bottom right will be a button for "Config Editor" click on that. It will open the Configuration Editor which will show a list of the settings that can be changed. You can scroll down to the one you want or enter it in the "Search" window at the top, which will take you to it. Click on the choice to highlight it. Then right click which will open a pull down menu of choices. You can use "Toggle" to change the setting from 0 to 1 which will activate it. Then close the editor. Its probably a good idea to close Thunderbird and re-open it. On 8/17/2018 12:17 PM, Chuck Harris cfharris@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
1) Click on the three bar thingy off on the right that says --
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Re: Too many Messages!!
1) Click on the three bar thingy off on the right that says
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"Display the Thunderbird Menu" when you hover over it. 2) From the menu, click on "Preferences" 3) From the preferences screen click on "Advanced" 4) On the advanced screen click on "Config Editor" It will say some malarky about voiding your warranty, click on I accept the risk, and it will open a window About:config 5) In the search bar at the top of about:config, type: "mail.server.default.dup_action" Right click on that entry, and select modify from the menu. Modify it, and do the usual close save stuff. -Chuck Harris Gedas w8bya@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Hi there can you tell me where specifically in Thunderbird this setting is? I have |
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Re: Too many Messages!!
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi there can you tell me where specifically in Thunderbird this setting is? I have spent 15 min looking under my "tools/options" & acct settings etc and keep over looking it. TU mail.server.default.dup_action Gedas, W8BYA Gallery at Light travels faster than sound.... This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. On 8/17/2018 3:17 AM, Christoph
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Re: Test
Oh no! Here's comes all the test messages. ;)
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Good job Dale. Keith On 8/17/2018 10:51 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote:
Test message to see if I am properly configured for the new list. |
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Re: Too many Messages!!
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOf course ¡ª that message predates your involvement (at least in my mind ¡ª I might have simply read about your work on it after I posted). Once there¡¯s an owner doing it, it¡¯s the simplest way to proceed. ¡ª Kuba
15 aug. 2018 kl. 19:07 skrev 'Dr. David Kirkby' drkirkby@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>:
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Re: How the transition from Yahoo to groups.io will take place - exactly when I don't know
Dr. David Kirkby
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 15:04, Chuck Harris cfharris@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote: Just a side note, From reading this post, by Jim_Jam, who would seem to be a Yahoo employee: it is stated "Yahoo Groups is no longer a supported product and hasn't been for years. long?before the Yahoo/Verizon acquisition." From what you describe, it sounds like a cat and mouse game. Let's hope the transition does not present too many hassles, but it seems vacating a sinking ship is the only sensible option. Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET Kirkby Microwave Ltd Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom. Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892 Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100 |
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Re: How the transition from Yahoo to groups.io will take place - exactly when I don't know
Just a side note,
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Back when I, and others, were slurping Yahoo groups for archival reasons, Yahoo network administrators observed the change in their traffic, figured out what was going on, and implemented countermeasures. Slurping, is, after all, against the terms of service. What they did is set up filters, probably snort, that measured timing of requests for messages from individual IP's. Initially, if the requests were too fast for a human to have done, they put the IP into a timeout jail, and it would 404. So, we slowed down our requests, after all, patience is a virtue. Well, then they noticed that our requests came like clockwork every second.... So, into the timeout jail for requests for messages that came every second. So, the scripts were changed to allow the user to insert a random repeat rate... And, Yahoo decided if multiple requests from the same IP came at the same interval, into the timeout jail for you! In the final version of the script, the requests were made with random spacing, so yahoo decided that people that sat at their terminals 24/7 were bots, and into the timeout jail. So, next comes breaking up the requests into 2 or 3 hour sessions.... I lost interest... Yahoo doesn't want you to slurp *their* data. It is against their terms of service, and they are actively working to prevent it. More actively than they are working to maintain reliable service, it would seem. One possible explanation for why groups.io may take a little longer to slurp the group then they once did. I, however, wonder when Yahoo is going to change their strategy from using snort to block bots, to using the DMCA, or other legal means? -Chuck Harris 'Dr. David Kirkby' drkirkby@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote: Lots of people have been moaning about the Yahoo group, and as some of you |
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Re: Thank you for signing up, but I suggest you use Yahoo until the move takes place
Dr. David Kirkby - Kirkby Microwave Ltd
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 12:08, Christoph Kopetzky <ck@...> wrote: Hi David, Yes, something needed to be done. See my posting in the Yahoo group about the way I intend the move to take place. -- Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET Kirkby Microwave Ltd Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom. Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892 Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100 |
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How the transition from Yahoo to groups.io will take place - exactly when I don't know
Dr. David Kirkby
Lots of people have been moaning about the Yahoo group, and as some of you know, I am going to make the transfer, having been given the permissions from the owner of this group. (I'm now an owner too). I thought I'd post here how the process will take place, so nobody is in any doubt. The HP/Agilent/Keysight forum /g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment has been set up, with the following email addresses. Group Email Addresses
Only post there if you want to start a NEW topic - do NOT try to continue something that started on the Yahoo group. Topics already on Yahoo will be copied there later. I would suggest that people just use the Yahoo group for now, unless it breaks badly again. Several people have unsubscribed from this list in the last couple of days, but they have subscribed to [email protected]. The transition process has been initiated, but I don't know when I will be able to make the transfer. Groups.io say 1-2 days, but I received an email from someone who had transferred multiple groups, who advised me the delays are longer than that now. (Perhaps there has been a massive movement of groups, and can't keep up!) There are multiple ways of moving a group, each having their own advantages and disadvantages. At least two are: a) Copy the Yahoo group to [email protected], running both groups for a while, so there is no downtime. The downside of that is that a subject can start in this Yahoo forum, then run in parallel on two forums, with some people posting in Yahoo, and some posting to [email protected]. That will be a bit of a mess. b) Have someone downtime,? which is obviously an inconvenience, but it will allow a cleaner copy of material from one group to the other. I've decided to go the second route, so there will be some downtime. When the time is ready, and I'm able to make the transfer, I'm intending the following to happen, but of course, things can go wrong. 1) I will announce in this HP/Agilent Yahoo group that the group is moving and will be offline for some time. I will *request* nobody post messages after that point. 2) I will wait several hours, to give any messages that were sent a chance to get to the Yahoo group, as I understand there are some delays in this happening. (24 hours should be .safe, but is obviously an inconvenience to others, so it will probably be less than 24 hours. I will make a judgement on that later.). 3) I will then set the Yahoo group so that messages bounce. 4) I will then hit transfer on , which will mean a copy from the Yahoo group will commence. Anyone who is subscribed to the HP/Agilent Yahoo list will get their subscription information copied over. I don't know how long that copy will take, but with a big list, it might take some time, as every post ever made needs to be copied over, plus anything in the files section. If Yahoo play nasty, they could make the transfer rate very slow! 5) Once the transfer is complete, everyone will be able to post to [email protected] and nobody to the Yahoo group. 6) The contents of the Yahoo group will not be deleted. So there should be two copies of every message ever sent - one on the Yahoo group and one on /g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment 7) Users who are transferred should NOT have any posts held for moderation. 8) Once the group is running properly, any new subscribers will need to have two posts approved by a moderator to reduce spam . There will be at least one moderator in the UK and at least one in the USA. That should enable posts to be quickly approved, irrespective of when posted. It has worked well for /g/Test-Equipment-For-Sale-Wanted-or-Exchange/topics so anyone posting to [email protected] should get this posts quickly approved. All being well, once the transfer has been completed, there should be no need for people to subscribe in order to post to [email protected], as their details will have been copied over. But for now at least that's not the case. As people know, plans can go wrong, and things might not work out exactly as I intend, and might take a bit longer than people would like. But based on the best information I have to date, the above seems the best approach. Staying on Yahoo does not seem a viable option, and the decesion to move has been taken. Dave, G8WRB Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET Kirkby Microwave Ltd Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom. Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892 Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100 |
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