Sarah,

Would I maybe use this to be sent to a list if I maybe need to warn
them of something let's say to say any more actions like the ones by
our members and this list will be in moderation?

It isn't really designed for sending to the entire membership. The idea is that you'd checkmark one or a few members (in the Members list) then in the Actions menu at the bottom of the page use Send Message.

But maybe there's a suggestion for beta@ - when used by a moderator the New Topic composition page could have the drop-list for Member Notice selection in addition to the special notice checkbox.

That would be useful for notices that don't make sense to schedule but are needed on occasion.

Shal

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This last week I posted my experiences of transferring a list from YG to groups.io on several YG lists where there
have been discussions about current YG problems.? While other members appreciated the heads-up, some YG lists
owners were pretty upset.? After a week of banter and bravado on all sides:? A few things became clear.

First, some list owners are not interested in their database and routinely purge messages and files.? In essence
their?groups are just slow paced chat groups and do not store archival information; they lose nothing if YG implodes.

Second, some list owners (and members) have not upgraded their PCs and internet connections in 20+ years,
they work solely with Digest posts and do not access the YG web page to post or search.? Yes Virginia, dial-up
modems do exist...? They cannot see the current YG slow-down.

Third, YG list ownership is extremely personal and some list owners are reactive to change, sharing, or assistance.
Talking of a move is stealing THEIR group.

When any of these three conditions of list owners exist the chances of a transfer from YG is minimal;
when all three exist, the list?will never move, is willing to die in place.

? If you are a moderator (or even a subscriber) for a list owner with these characteristics, trying to promote a move
will be a waste of your time and likely incur ire and distrust.? It's time to drop the subject.

ken clark
singed, but still happy with moving to groups.io

Win,

At the moment we both show as Owner. How do I change her status to
Member?

Click onto the Members list (drop down the Admin menu in the left column). Above the list is a button to select "Members", "Moderators", "Pending Approval", "Bouncing" or "Banned". You can use either Members or Moderators, but the latter will be a shorter list (presumably!) making it easy to find her.

Click on her row, anywhere except on the checkbox. That will open up her membership page. Find the Role drop-list, and change he setting to "Member". Click the blue "Save" button at the bottom of the page.

Shal

Thanks, Shal! I was starting to think I'd lost my mind. Not to say I haven't...

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Janet,

> I'm in the process of moving a group over from Yahoo. I've got three > people complaining that they can't delete messages after they've read > them like they could on Yahoo. They all believe the delete message > thing was a Yahoo feature (a button) that they don't have here and > they're accumulating all kinds of messages that they can't delete.

Goodness.

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I love that idea.?If ?this is not possible, I would leave a message in the beta group. Good idea there.

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Win,

I’ve just joined here, thanks for the link Shal.

You're welcome. You're posterid #566,976 at Groups.io.

An unimportant number, I think, but it does indicate how much Groups.io has grown recently. Not that long ago new subscribers had numbers in the 100,000 range.

1... I want to “vet” pending members before I approve their
membership. From looking in the archives, it seems that I can’t have a
message sent automatically and I would have to do it by emailing them
personally myself... is this correct?

Nope.

Go to your Group's Settings page, Member Notices tab, and if there isn't already a notice of type "Pending Subscription" click on the blue "New Notice" button (at the bottom of the list) and create one with "Pending Subscription as its Notice Type.

Be sure to check the "Active Message" box so that this message will be sent automatically when someone applies to join your group. When you finish composing the message body, click the blue "Add Notice" button at the bottom to save it.

Is there any way to take off the “conversation” mode and have each
message just displayed in the list, not lumped together like this?

"Topics" is the default view, but the leftmost blue button above the list of messages is a view selector. Other choices are "Messages" (the view you're looking for, I think), "Expanded", and "Polls".

Shal

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We had a couple members check out the chat room.

When we were on !Yahoo we used an off site chat room a couple times a year. Our member that owned that site has passed away so we were excited to see our own chat room. One of the things they really miss was the ability to see that a response was being typed.?

Is is it possible to have this feature in io chats?

Nancy

Hi all,

This change log for the last week:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

* NEW: You can hide the ID column when viewing a database table.

The ID is not a row number, it is more like a message number, permanently assigned to the row when added. Consequently it can be used as a reference when citing the row's content.

Alas, it isn't a permalink. Nor even a link to open the row. I'll ask Mark about that...

* CHANGE: Added a pricing FAQ explaining some features of the
calendar/events/RSVPs.

At the bottom of the Pricing page, naturally.
/static/pricing


Comments about these others are also welcome:

INTERNAL: senddigest service now using distributed nsqd system.
INTERNAL: DMARC lookups no longer caching in Redis.
INTERNAL: sendmessage service now using distributed nsqd system.
BUGFIX: When editing a message that had been transferred from
Yahoo, an error was thrown.
INTERNAL: Many improvements to the admin dashboards.
SYSADMIN: Moved several internal services to different machines and
duplicated them, for redundancy.
D'OH: Added missing pagination to Member Notices page.
BUGFIX: When removing/banning/unbanning someone without a display
name or user name, and if you have a user name, your user name was
improperly displayed as the banned person's name.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal

Doug,

When I go to settings, Member Notices, there is no where else to go
such as group guidelines.

Click the blue New Notice button. Then select "Group Guidelines" from the Notice Type selector.

Shal

Is this service valid only for Enterprise or paid groups?

I am asking as the group I Co-Own is currently not a paid group. When I go to settings, Member Notices, there is no where else to go such as group guidelines.

I Thank You in advance for your response.

Doug

Janet,

I'm in the process of moving a group over from Yahoo. I've got three
people complaining that they can't delete messages after they've read
them like they could on Yahoo. They all believe the delete message
thing was a Yahoo feature (a button) that they don't have here and
they're accumulating all kinds of messages that they can't delete.

Goodness.

I hope they're not confusing the group's Messages archive for their own email Inbox. I recall from years ago one tale of woe from a Yahoo Group owner who had promoted a rather naive person to moderator. Said person started reading the backlog of group messages and deleting them as he/she went. By the time the group owner figured out what happened a substantial swath of the group's archive had been deleted.

I don't remember if that story had a happy ending, but I do recall that back in that era Yahoo Customer Care could and would restore accidentally deleted content from backup - if caught within a few days.

Their emails are associated with three different providers (Yahoo, AOL
and Verizon) and I know at least two of them use tablets/phones and
one an old fashioned computer.

Hmm... The idea of being confused about their inbox only really seems like it would make sense for the Yahoo Mail users - they may think that since the group is no longer on Yahoo then neither should their Inbox be. But the users of other email services, one would think, would know to look for their messages in the same place as before.

Or maybe not, if they misunderstood the consequences of Verizon having acquired both AOL and Yahoo, making them both brands of the Oath subsidiary.

I'm having problems understanding their problems as I never noticed a
"delete" button on the messages from Yahoo and I believe this was an
email client function.

I'm with you. It is definitely a function of their email service and would have nothing to do with whether messages were arriving via Groups.io or Yahoo Groups.

I'd suggest that you ask them to send you a screen shot to show you where they're expecting to find a Delete button, but if they're this confused taking and sending a screenshot may be beyond their abilities.

One other thing to look for: have they deleted any of their own messages (messages they posted), as they _can_ do that in your group's Messages
list. Check your group's Activity log for that.

I've sent each of them a message asking what email clients they're
using and ...

Heh. If they have confused where their inbox is they may never see your message, or anything else that didn't post in your group.

Has anyone else run into this with their formerly-of-Yahoo user base?

I haven't. But then the majority of the members in the groups I transferred over were email-only, using non-Yahoo addresses. The few with Yahoo accounts to access the group's web pages I had carefully instructed ages ago on how to set it up so that they still used their preferred non-Yahoo email addresses for group messages.

Shal

deborah,

When I changed the photo to one of my own it appeared as a regular
photo rather than as a banner.

Did Don's answer resolve your question?

I'm assuming that the photo appeared in the correct place at the top of your group's home page, but was shaped as the photo you uploaded, not spread across the page.

In my YahooGroup if you change the banner photo the new photo is
displayed as a banner too.

Yahoo Groups will scale your photo horizontally to match the banner width, then crop it vertically if necessary to match the banner height, and allow you to position it vertically to select the portion you wish to show.

How do you get your photo to appear as a banner in the i.o. group?

Groups.io won't crop your image. Rather it scales it to fit in both directions. So to get a banner-shaped result you'd have to upload a banner-shaped image. That's what Don meant by giving examples of the image sizes he uploaded.

GMF's home page photo came from my camera as a more nearly square image, at high resolution. I used either PhotoShop Elements or LightRoom (I don't recall at the moment) to scale it to screen resolution and crop it to banner shape.

Shal

Mike,

How do I go about doing this? I assume that it can be done, just
doing two transfers, one after another?

That should work. In the "Go" message to the transfer agent specify exactly what content you do and do not wish to have copied.

There is a slight question about which to do first, but on the whole I think I'd say A first. The disadvantage with this is that B's messages will end up "newer" in the sense of having higher message numbers. But it means that any subscriber to A who had also contributed in B (under the same email address) will retain ownership of their content from both groups.

The disadvantage of copying B first is that without copying its subscribers the content will end up "orphaned" - no connection to a subscriber, which means only a moderator can edit or delete that content.

I suppose the best result would be to copy A's members first; then B's content, then A's content. I don't know if that result is worth imposing on Mark that much.

Assuming that transfers resume at some point...


Shal

More info on file transfer problems recently:

Duane