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Is it possible to reduce the vertical size of the Header on the Full Featured Digests.? The thick header pushes the links to the messages off the bottom of the view window in Thunderbird and one has to scroll down to see the links.? A 25% reduction of the header (banner) would make for a more useful Full Featured Digest. I am reluctant to recommend the full featured digest to our group members when so much real estate is taken up by the header.
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:04 AM, Niman H wrote:

When editing a topic (subject line of a posted message) does it send a note to the member whose post it is, and/or to the group?

Sally -- There is no group notification associated with editing a topic.

And when editing a message (side point - why can't you edit message and topic at the same time?)...

Topics and messages have different data fields in groups.io storage. A topic can be locked or moderated, but it makes no sense to lock an individual message. A message has a message body and someone who posted it, but by itself does not actually have a subject line...its containing topic does. Topics can have hashtags, messages do not. And so on.

Back to editing messages...

I see an option not to notify the group, but is a message sent to the member who posted it?

If you -- as a Moderator/Owner -- edit a message after it has already posted, a notification is sent to the OP. If you perform the same edit on a message during moderation, no.

And - if a message is indeed sent in either case, is there a way to turn it off?

No.

Regards,
Bruce

I took my new GIO adventures and wrote them into a group wiki.?For example, a post in today's digest described how to use the database for importing a list of links. So I take things like that and put?it in our group's wiki.?Much of GIO is intuitive and I have found the GMF wiki indespensible.

I feel it really depends on what your group's needs are. Not every group needs complete information on the full gamut of GIO features. I our changing environment, as beta requests are completed and roll out, a manual (except for the basics) becomes less useful.?

I own a personal family group that I created after leaving FB almost 2 years ago. The only instructions that were needed was on posts, logins and digests options.?

I co-own an international sewing group that makes use of wiki for tuturials. So in addition to the above they also needed a wiki how to.?

And under this email address, I moderate a volunteer group on a national level that needs all the above plus how tos on (group required) signature, (GIO vs Group) profiles, (optional) member directory and our files and databases.?

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 07:39 AM, Rob Marston wrote:

My group has a foodbank collection last saturday in each month. Is there any way of setting that up in Calendar?

Rob -- As in Yahoo Groups, this kind of recurring event is not supported. You will have to set them up individually.

See?

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:51 AM, Frances wrote:

Perhaps someone else has a suggestion about what is going wrong.

Not really, but I am puzzled. Frances; you suggested that members might be sending from a "wrong" email address, but I don't see how that could be the case unless Allow Non Subscribers to Post has been checked, and I cannot see any mention of that. Posts from non - members should on the face of it simply be rejected.

However, I am also puzzled by the sentence Sometimes, members can send messages to each other, no problem in Ann's original query. As written that means messages from one member to another not involving the group; was that meaning intended? I suspect not but clarification might be helpful.

Ann; I suggest that you have a look at your Activity Log; find it via Admin > Activity as that will enable you to see what is being posted without hindrance and what is being held for moderation and the addresses from which each message originated. I would also suggest revisiting all your Settings just in case something has been checked by accident.

Chris

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:51 AM, Frances wrote:

Perhaps someone else has a suggestion about what is going wrong.

I am having to end this knowing that I have a post already languishing in the moderation queue; one of the penalties of living in a totally different time zone!

I suggested checking your Settings, and realised that there was something else to include as soon as I had clicked "send".

The setting so far considered has been the Group Moderation Setting, but it is possible that individual members have Posting Privileges that override the group setting.

I suggest that you use the Activity Log to identify a member who submitted a post that was put in the moderation queue. Then go your your Members List and find that person's entry in it; click anywhere on their entry other than the check box. This will take you to that person's "personal" page; scroll down to the bottom of the page just above the Save tab and other functions, and your will find a section called Posting Privileges. The 3rd, 4th, 6th or 7th options will one way or another result in that members having posts held for moderation, sometimes temporarily until they have submitted a predetermined number of posts.

Edit and Save any setting that is "wrong".

You are the owner of the group; are you the sole moderator? If not, and there are others with moderator permissions, have another look at your activity log to see if they have been "tinkering", and if necessary smack wrists. If there are no other moderators then I cannot think of any reason why some of the individual member's settings might be a bit rogue, unless your group is an import from Yahoo in which case their settings will have been imported as well.

Chris

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:15 PM, Ann Ward Purcell wrote:

On the Admin/Settings/Spam Control, I have checked “Restricted Membership,” and no other restrictions.? Sometimes, members can send messages to each other, no problem.? But more often than not, I, as the owner/moderator, receive a request from groups.io to approve a message a member wants to send.?

Have you checked in the Admin section??
You can go to Members (not Directory) and find the member.
Click on the name - don't use the check box. Check the Activity History.?

And check also Admin, Activity.?
Message Activity shows you whether email addresses were used that are not registered with Groups.io.

If, as you say, sometimes a specific member can successfully post a message and sometimes not, likely it is to do with their email address. Using an unregistered email address. As I mentioned, your email address is your ID.

Frances

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 09:52 PM, Katherine Fritz wrote:

You're supposed to pay the fee first THEN invite [email protected]?to join and THEN make them a moderator.? Or did I misunderstand?

No, you understood correctly.? It's my understanding that invitations are ignored (trashed) unless the transfer fee has been paid.

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How did you make [email protected]?a moderator BEFORE you paid the fee?? You're supposed to pay the fee first THEN invite [email protected]?to join and THEN make them a moderator.? Or did I misunderstand?

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Katie

P.S. I was hospitalized with pneumonia 7 years ago - an awful experience.? I hope you get better soon!

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:15 PM, Ann Ward Purcell wrote:

On the Admin/Settings/Spam Control, I have checked “Restricted Membership,” and no other restrictions.? Sometimes, members can send messages to each other, no problem.? But more often than not, I, as the owner/moderator, receive a request from groups.io to approve a message a member wants to send.? In several cases, the person who tried to send the message was ME, sending the message from MY computer, from which I set up the group and which I use to manage the group.

I have looked and looked at the Settings section under “Admin.” ??I can’t find any adjustment to make to allow members -- including me -- to send messages without requiring approval.?

Several issues - having to moderate about your own messages - this is a useful opportunity to take a second look before it goes out.
You can moderate by email - send a reply (nothing to write).?
However you can edit your own subscription.?
Go to Admin, Members, choose yourself, scroll down to Posting Privileges. Be sure to save.

You say: "Sometimes, members can send messages to each other, no problem."
Is it possible you have set them to moderate - "new users moderated"?

Or more likely, your members are not posting from their usual email addresses. Their email address is their account ID. If they need to email from another address from time to time (say, from work), they should add an email alias. That allows them to post from this other address as well as their main one. However they don't receive at that address.?
See instructions here -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts

Perhaps someone else has a suggestion about what is going wrong.

Frances

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Samuel,

They do, however, have the right to request that Groups.io stop
distributing it, and when they request it, the request must be met,
unless there is a legally valid reason to deny the request.

There is.

The user has granted Groups.io a perpetual and irrevocable license to display the content. See the "User Content Transmitted Through the Service" section of the TOS.

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 06:26 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:

I note that all files that are jpg files did not in fact get transferred from Yahoo.

The only thing I can think of is that you didn't have the box checked for "Allow Photos In Files", but I don't know that for a fact.

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 07:26 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:

Is there a way to correct the "Uploaded By" name for Files?

As Frances noted, the only way to change a file attribution is to download the file and have the person who owns it re-upload it.

I note that all files that are jpg files did not in fact get transferred from Yahoo. The file name is shown but there is no file. Should this have been expected?

Go to Admin>Settings>Features>Files and see if the "Allow photos in files" box is checked. If it's not, that's why they aren't there. You might be able to get at them but checking the box and saving your changes and then seeing if they actually did transfer, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

By the way, JPG images in the files area will not automatically display as thumbnails or slideshow images. If you click on one, it might display then, but that depends on your browser settings.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 07:26 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:

Is there a way to correct the "Uploaded By" name for Files?

I don't see any Edit capability for Files.

I note that all files that are jpg files did not in fact get transferred from Yahoo. The file name is shown but there is no file. Should this have been expected?

You say that you want to change file attribution. If it is should be your file, you can download it delete the record and upload again. And of course, if you give your members permission, they can do that with theirs.

There is update (paper and pen) and move (scissors).

You can edit the file name and the description. A little odd, but perhaps you can put the name in that way.
Or create folder with the correct owner's name and move them that way.
But you might lose information - better to put in folders with topics.

This is what *should* be transferred:

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Is there a way to correct the "Uploaded By" name for Files?

I don't see any Edit capability for Files.

I note that all files that are jpg files did not in fact get transferred from Yahoo. The file name is shown but there is no file. Should this have been expected?

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 05:09 PM, ro-esp wrote:

tried to send a link but it wasn't blue/clickable. She blamed groups.io ..

What did she do wrong?

I just did a quick test.? If it doesn't start with the http prefix, it won't be linkified.? Could be something else though.

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 04:52 PM, Bill Mosca wrote:

Might as well consider this closed out of attrition.

Did you contact support?? For little things like this, they sometimes fix them, then show a BUGFIX on the weekly Changelog.

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