Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer
Your response is huge help.? I recognize the advantage of the stumbling block I¡¯ve encountered, even though it reflects that not all ¡°owners¡± are equal.? He that pays the piper calls the tune ...
We¡¯ll just have to wait until the other owner finishes his travel and can take the next step.
Bernie Chachula
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 01:00 PM, Bernie/Ohio/GL-033 wrote:
I am one of two owners of our new Groups.io presence.? The other owner is the one who paid the $110 fee.
It doesn't matter who pays the fee, as long as it is paid, and the group thus has the proper payment status (Premium YEARLY).
After receiving Groups¡¯ acceptance of our invitation (Step 14), and promoting [email protected] to Moderator (Step 15), I went to the Step 4 listed transfer page but the ¡°Existing Transfers¡± dropdown is blank, even clicking to actually open it up.? Nothing shows where I expected to see my group¡¯s name.? Consequently, I can¡¯t proceed with Step 16.? Is this another waiting point in the process?
Ah. That's a horse of a different color, as they say. Providing the actual symptoms really helps with troubleshooting.
The same person who started the transfer has to complete it. You cannot switch back and forth, because has no way to map one account to another, even if they both own the group. This has the side benefit of keeping two people from attempting to transfer the same group(s) at the same time.
So assuming you are the one who started all this, and suddenly you can no longer see anything in the Existing Transfers list, it's probably because you're now logged in under a different email address than you were when you started. The email address is the account identifier; and as far as is concerned, those two email addresses are two different people.
Please see the following wiki page:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Content-Is-Missing? The page does not discuss this in the context of a group transfer, but the concept is the same.
Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Question about invitation formats
When I uploaded the invitee list I built from YG,? many people had left off?
their names when they signed up on YG..??
So my list was as requested:? name <userid>.? one per line.
If they'd left off their name, my macro left the name blank but put the userid
between the 'brackets'.
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I'm getting some people telling me that they didn't get the invitation.? And those
people all went in with no name:? ?<userid>? ...
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Is it a bug?? Or my misunderstanding?
Bob?
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So I logged in this morning and upgraded my account from the free version to the premium....before the price increase. However, I must have signed up for the 1 month versus the yearly.
When I look at my account, I can't seem to find a way to make it into a Yearly account. There's no way to make that adjustment...how does one make this change?
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Re: Paying for a second transfer to add a subgroup
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:23 PM, <roger.colwell@...> wrote:
Just to make certain, I am asking to migrate a separate Yahoo group, as a subgroup into my main group, into my Premium Yearly plan, and you're saying there's not a double transfer fee?
Such is my understanding. It may change tomorrow. :-) Bruce
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The user can aslo add the second email address as an email alias at his settings page. Then they can aslo post from this address.
Isidro
[Mod Note: While this is true, group messages will not be received there. The only way to receive group messages at a given address without forwarding is to subscribe it.]
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Am 22.10.2019 um 18:46 schrieb Deborah Cohen:
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Dual email addresses
From: Tim Morris on Mon, 21 Oct 2019 04:33:48 CDT
My boat owner Group has a number of 'subscribers' who would like to have 2 email addresses included so they both get any Posts.? I don¡¯t want to have two separate subscribers for one boat.? Is there a way??
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--I'm not too tech savvy, but my tried and true solution to get my YG posts sent to two different email addresses was to set up an automatic forward in my email. I set up an automatic forward? that applied to all YG messages received in my YG email address. You just have to be careful to only reply or post from the primary email account (or webpage), or else they will be returned as undeliverable.
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Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 01:00 PM, Bernie/Ohio/GL-033 wrote:
I am one of two owners of our new Groups.io presence.? The other owner is the one who paid the $110 fee.
It doesn't matter who pays the fee, as long as it is paid, and the group thus has the proper payment status (Premium YEARLY).
After receiving Groups¡¯ acceptance of our invitation (Step 14), and promoting [email protected] to Moderator (Step 15), I went to the Step 4 listed transfer page but the ¡°Existing Transfers¡± dropdown is blank, even clicking to actually open it up.? Nothing shows where I expected to see my group¡¯s name.? Consequently, I can¡¯t proceed with Step 16.? Is this another waiting point in the process?
Ah. That's a horse of a different color, as they say. Providing the actual symptoms really helps with troubleshooting. The same person who started the transfer has to complete it. You cannot switch back and forth, because groups.io has no way to map one account to another, even if they both own the group. This has the side benefit of keeping two people from attempting to transfer the same group(s) at the same time. So assuming you are the one who started all this, and suddenly you can no longer see anything in the Existing Transfers list, it's probably because you're now logged in under a different email address than you were when you started. The email address is the account identifier; and as far as groups.io is concerned, those two email addresses are two different people. Please see the following wiki page:? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Content-Is-Missing? The page does not discuss this in the context of a group transfer, but the concept is the same. Hope this helps, Bruce
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Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer
I am stuck at your Step 16.? I am one of two owners of our new Groups.io presence.? The other owner is the one who paid the $110 fee.
After receiving Groups¡¯ acceptance of our invitation (Step 14), and promoting [email protected] to Moderator (Step 15), I went to the Step 4 listed transfer page but the ¡°Existing Transfers¡± dropdown is blank, even clicking to actually open it up.? Nothing shows where I expected to see my group¡¯s name.? Consequently, I can¡¯t proceed with Step 16.? Is this another waiting point ?in the process?
I have even tried other browsers, first Chrome, then Firefox, and even Safari.? No joy in either case.
Any ideas?
[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: EDITED AND RESENT TO THE GROUP, AS THE COST HAS JUST NOW INCREASED TO $220]
Folks -- Appended below please find detailed instructions on how to conduct a transfer using the Easy Group Transfer method.
See also the new FAQ at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-YahooGroups
To check status of an ongoing transfer:??/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948
I will be re-posting this periodically for the benefit of all the new people that continue to flood in. My apologies for the inevitable dupes in your email inbox.
Regards,
Bruce
Here is the process. It is not fully automated and will take several days. Do not do anything out of order.
- Go here:?/
- At the bottom of the page, you'll find a link that says "Easy Group Transfer." Click it.
- Scroll to the bottom of the subsequent page and click on the big blue button labelled "Yahoo Group Instructions."
- You should be at?/yahootransfer. Read the instructions carefully, including all the Notes. Bookmark this page, too. You will come back here several times.
- Create your group and configure it according to your needs. Help with group settings can be found here:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation [NOTE: Each new group must be reviewed to confirm that it meets the Groups.io Terms of Service. This alone could take up to a day.]?
- To use the Easy Group Transfer, you must upgrade the group to the Premium Yearly plan.?You can downgrade to the Basic plan later (i.e.: a year from now), if you want.
To do so, select Admin>Upgrade from the left-side menu bar and click on the blue "View/Change Plan" button. Select "Premium Yearly" (one-time cost of $110 $220) and make your payment.?
(You have now completed Step 1 of the instructions)
- Return to the bookmarked page (/yahootransfer). Click on the big green button at the bottom that says "Set Up New Transfer."
- Enter the name of your Yahoo group and the name of your group in their respective boxes. Do NOT enter any domain information (i.e.:?leave off?@ or @), just the group names.
- Click the big green "Start Group Transfer Process" button at the bottom of the page.?
(You have now completed Step 2 of the instructions)
- Go to your YAHOO GROUP (not your group) and log in. Send a membership invitation to "[email protected]." If you've never done this before, instructions can be found at??
- Return to the bookmarked page?(/yahootransfer) once again. Select the group you are transferring from the Existing Transfers menu at bottom right (pull down the menu and click on the group name). A new page will come up, with?a status box at the top. If all is well, it should say: "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite." If it doesn't say that, the invitation did not go through. Go back to Step 10 above and try again.?
(You have now completed Step 3 of the instructions)
- BE PATIENT. Accepting the invitation is the longest step in the process, and requires human intervention (solving a CAPTCHA).?
- BE EVEN MORE PATIENT.?Do not send additional invitations in an attempt to hurry things up.
- You will eventually receive an email stating that the Yahoo group invitation has been accepted. Continue waiting until you receive this email.
(You have now completed Step 4 of the instructions)
- Return to your YAHOO GROUP and log in. Find the "[email protected]" member record and promote it to a Moderator. Instructions for this can be found at?.
- Return to the page that you bookmarked in #4 above one more time. Once again, pull down the Existing Transfers menu at bottom right and select the group you're ready to transfer. On the resulting page, click the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button.?
(You have now completed Step 5 of the instructions)
- BE PATIENT AGAIN. The ability to actually do the transfer depends on how well Yahoo's servers are operating. We all know what that means, right?
- You may notice some activity in your new group, which probably reflects partial completion of the process. Do not panic. This is what you wanted to happen!
- When the transfer is done, you will receive an email from summarizing what it was able to transfer. It will also list whatever things it was?NOT?able to transfer. Until this email is received, you aren't done yet.
- Rejoice.
Most of us have "been there" with this process before and it all sounds easy in hindsight. Ironically, the same thing that's causing most people to abandon Y!G (server downtime) is exactly the same thing most likely to get in the way of completing the transfer process.?The best time to initiate a transfer is when Yahoo is performing well.?If you procrastinate until things are crashing and burning, delays, incomplete transfers, and other such frustrations can be expected.
Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Dual email addresses
From: Tim Morris on Mon, 21 Oct 2019 04:33:48 CDT
My boat owner Group
has a number of 'subscribers' who would like to have 2 email addresses
included so they both get any Posts.? I don¡¯t want to have two separate
subscribers for one boat.? Is there a way??
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--I'm not too tech savvy, but my tried and true solution to get my YG posts sent to two different email addresses was to set up an automatic forward in my email. I set up an automatic forward? that applied to all YG messages received in my YG email address. You just have to be careful to only reply or post from the primary email account (or webpage), or else they will be returned as undeliverable.
Deborah
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:36 AM, y@es wrote:
So will it be a fixed offset
That would be a definite Maybe.? If any messages were deleted on the Yahoo group, there will be a change in the interval/offset at that point when they're copied over. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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3. Has anybody come up with a way to map g.io message numbers to the original Y!G #s?
If anyone has done such a thing, it has not been reported since I've been here (approx 2 years).
So will it be a fixed offset, i.e. Y!G??? GIO 300??? 125 325??? 150 etc? If so, we could put that offset in the header page or similar. Second question: Could we specify a starting offset greater than the max Y!G #; that would avoid any confusion: Y!G??? GIO 300??? 10125 325??? 10150
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:17 AM, Cynthia Heyman wrote:
I understand that they might be busy but some kind of response would be nice...?
Did you receive an email that your invitation had been received?? I think this is still automatically sent out when your invitation reaches Groups.io.? You can also check your transfer page as described in other posts to see what the status is.? As has been mentioned, sending more than one invitation can also slow down the process. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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I am sure the "removed because of spam" will be the next deluge of messages coming next.
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:23 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
One thing to keep in mind that a lot of people currently being migrated from Yahoo Groups no doubt "didn't get the message" and will be blindsided by notifications coming from groups.io stating that they've been transferred here.
The above presupposes that a warning was sent to the Yahoo group advising its members that a migration is being arranged, and that they should? expect (at some undefined point in time) an email from Groups.io informing them that their new group is ready for
them to confirm their membership.
If no such advance warning is given then the likelihood of something going wrong because of a simple misunderstanding is almost certain to be greater.
I fully expect a blizzard of "removed because of spam"" queries to start before long...
Chris
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The most reputable way, for my opinion to check if a IP Address
is compromised is the senderbase system that cisco has formed some
years ago.
This system dosn't check the emails itself, instead it collects
traficdata from a huge lot of cisco switches.
Here you can see the good reputation of the emailserver that
belongs to groups.io as far as I know.
Also spamhaus.org is a good place to check. This is a service
based in germany. They use honeypot technlogy and real
emailservers to build up their database. That works very reliable.
All the Best,
Isidro
Am 22.10.2019 um 17:23 schrieb Bruce
Bowman:
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One thing to keep in mind that a
lot of people currently being migrated from Yahoo Groups no
doubt "didn't get the message" and will be blindsided by
notifications coming from groups.io stating that they've been
transferred here. If a bunch of them start flagging such notices
as spam then it stands to reason that might adversely affect the
reputation of the service.
I'm not trying to downplay the
impact such a thing can have, only to suggest that such glitches
should probably be expected; and can similarly be expected to
resolve themselves after this massive influx of newbies
subsides.
Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Paying for a second transfer to add a subgroup
Thanks Bruce for ALL that you are doing You are a Total Jewel ? nova ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Paying for a second transfer to add a subgroup ? On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:02 PM, <roger.colwell@...> wrote: I can't find anything within my account that allows me to make a payment for a second transfer (from a different Y!G group) to be added as a subgroup of my main group? Roger -- If your primary group is already on the Premium Yearly plan, there is no extra charge to migrate a subgroup.
Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Paying for a second transfer to add a subgroup
Well, that's great news Bruce, thanks!
Just to make certain, I am asking to migrate a separate Yahoo group, as a subgroup into my main group, into my Premium Yearly plan, and you're saying there's not a double transfer fee?
TIA, Roger
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Re: HOW TO CHECK TRANSFER STATUS (was: transfer problem)
Yahoo seems flakey. Probably overwhelmed by transfers.
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I was just on Yahoo Groups and it was up.? Not sure what happened to you.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Margery Flax
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] HOW TO CHECK TRANSFER STATUS (was: transfer problem)
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Thanks - I figured it out after I hit send but I figured others might find it helpful.
And, in case anyone is wondering - it appears that yahoogroups is now down so we cannot set up transfers.? grumble, grumble.
Margery
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I'm also waiting for the [email protected]?invitation to be accepted into my Yahoo Group. I created the group on groups.io, then sent the invite from the yahoo group (twice now) and the transfer email has not joined my group yet. I understand that they might be busy but some kind of response would be nice...?
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Re: Notice of Pricing Change
Glad I woke up and dialed in early.? Paid the Premium upgrade (and initiated the Transfer) just 40 minutes before Price Change.? On behalf of 1150 cold war veterans, we are counting on you.? Thanks, Bill
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Re: Paying for a second transfer to add a subgroup
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:02 PM, <roger.colwell@...> wrote:
I can't find anything within my account that allows me to make a payment for a second transfer (from a different Y!G group) to be added as a subgroup of my main group?
Roger -- If your primary group is already on the Premium Yearly plan, there is no extra charge to migrate a subgroup. Regards, Bruce
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