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Bruce,

? ? ? ? ? ? The only argument I have with what you said is characterizing Groups.io as being in beta testing in any sense of that word that was ever used in my decades as a developer.? ?This platform has been stable, very stable, for quite a while now and additional feature requests being added, sometimes rapidly.? That does not make the whole enterprise "beta" by any means.

? ? ? ? ? ? ?I also doubt that the beta group name will ever change.? ?It, like so many other things in this world, will become an anachronism that remains because those that use it know it's history and name.

? ? ? ? ? ? ?The beta group is the last thing I'd use in determining whether or not a given piece of software such as Groups.io is actually in beta testing.? It isn't (at least not as a whole).

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I think Mark would be the first to admit that groups.io site documentation has failed to keep pace with feature development. This is largely because the entire groups.io site is still in the beta phase...that's why we still have a "beta group." Those of us who rely on groups.io for day-to-day use too easily lose sight of that.

I'm hoping that as both site documentation and the groups.io app near completion, we will exit the beta phase and things will subsequently be rolled out in a more coordinated (if slower) fashion. Meanwhile, we are indebted to those who have taken their own time and energy to create and maintain GMF wiki entries. I'm sure those will be a valuable resource for the technical writer, at least initially.

Regards,
Bruce
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On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:21 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

This makes me wonder whether a group owner or moderator can lock a topic via e-mail.?

This functionality does not currently exist.?

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Duane,

? ? ? ? ? While the actions may be simple, finding them is not, or it sure is *&%$ not for me, and I'm a "digger."? Having to run around to various group wikis, including the one for this on, is no reasonable or logical way to create formal documentation.? I'm glad that Mark is finally getting to the stage where he thinks things are stable enough, and the service mature enough, to do what mature services do.

? ? ? ? ? Basics of administration are, and should be, a fundamental part of the formal documentation for a venue such as Groups.io.? ?Detailed information about arcana of administration must be included, since no one tends to remember these, even the person who invented the system.

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On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:33 AM, Nancy C wrote:

there is no magic way to retreive them

Correct.? As insurance, you could Export Group Data from the Settings page now and then, including photos.? (Or you could just get the photos.)? It would be a bit of work to reassign the album and photos to the correct owner after putting them back.

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On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:26 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

how one transfers ownership

It's also touched on in the Roles section of /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List? It seems super simple, so maybe that's why there's not more documentation.? If I want to transfer ownership to you, I make you an owner, then demote myself to member (or leave the group.)

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Hi everyone.?

This is morning I mistakenly deleted a member album when working off an iPhone.?

I believe the only course of action is to reload all the photos and that there is no magic way to retreive them.?

Am I missing info on this?

Many thanks

Nancy C
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On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:15 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Am I safe in presuming this works "in reverse" too?? ?That is, once one has been named owner of a group, you can take away owner from the existing owner?

Yes, an owner has full privileges and can use any function.? There may be as many owners as you want, as well as moderators.? Personally, I wouldn't want more than 2 or 3 owners (or mods with the ability to set Mod Priv) due to the possibility of a 'turf war', but can understand having the capability as on Shalstest that's used to test/verify things.

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By the way, and I should have added this in my previous message, I can find no documentation on the Help page about how one transfers ownership.? Transfer of ownership is referred to, once, but there is nothing regarding how to do it.

I need to go back to Mark's message about hiring a technical writer to pull together a Groups.io "User's Manual," to see if he mentions having said writer take a long and careful cruise through the GMF archive.? That would be a very, very good idea to see all sorts of things that must be included in said manual.

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Am I safe in presuming this works "in reverse" too?? ?That is, once one has been named owner of a group, you can take away owner from the existing owner?

I have a desire to do this, and there's not anything underhanded afoot, there was an oversight where when the previous owner withdrew they were left as owner, which I doubt they want and I know I don't.
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I think several people have made files specific to their groups.? You're also welcome to use the information in the Wiki here to create your own, /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home? Since anyone (public) can see this Wiki, you could use pointers instead of creating an entire page/file.

You might want to wait a bit though because a manual is in the works - ? No sense duplicating effort.

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Most of the groups in which I particpate on Groups.io have a focus on technology related to blind and low-vision related software and, on the whole, the vast majority of the participants, including group owners and moderators, participate via e-mail.

I was shocked to learn the other day that it is possible to "Like" a topic via e-mail simply by responding with a message body containing either "like" or "+1."? ?

This makes me wonder whether a group owner or moderator can lock a topic via e-mail.? ?It makes as much sense to me that this be able to be done by a response to a message, only from an owner or moderator with permission to lock, that contains only "lock" in any case mixture of letters.? I can't find anything in documentation one way or another in this regard.
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Our group moved from yahoo to groups.io about a year ago (so thankful we did!) but we still have a lot of members who 'remember' some of the old yahoo features and do not understand all of the groups.io features.

Have any of you created a "Tips and Tricks" type document for your group?? I am think of things like 'how to change your delivery settings', 'how to create an account', etc all in one place that I could post to our group regularly both for older members and new members to use.

If you have and would share here, I would very much appreciate it!

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 02:48 PM, Marina wrote:

2) How come that the rejection notice does not appear in the drop down Notice menu at the bottom of the message box when I write a message to a pending member?

Are you certain that a Rejected Subscription message has been written and stored?

3) As I said, in my group most rejections are due to the lack of a personal introduction, but not all of them. Is there a way to set up different rejection notices, so that moderators can choose the most appropriate one?

No; there is only one Rejected Subscription message available, although as you have realised there is the option of using a Note to Member.

In your later post your wrote: However, I have tried a different approach and set up a Note to Member Notice, with a view to sending it as a standard message when rejecting a subscription request, but I found out that the system does not save the message.

Are you certain that you clicked on Add Notice after you had composed it? Have you gone back to your Member Notices tab to find out exactly what messages there actually are, and that the Active Message checkbox has been checked? It may be that you think the message is there waiting to be sent when in fact it isn't.

Chris.

Thank you, Duane.

I see no reason for the customized rejection message not showing in the drop down Notice menu at the bottom of the message box when you write to a prospective member you wish to reject.

However, I have tried a different approach and set up a Note to Member Notice, with a view to sending it as a standard message when rejecting a subscription request, but I found out that the system does not save the message.

From the Settings Menu I chose Member Notices > New Notice > Note to Member > Add Notice, but the system did not save my message.

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Marina

The issue with newline characters in the ICS file has been fixed (as mentioned in this weeks' changelog on beta).? As well as loading correctly in Outlook, it also now works when syncing to Google Calendar.

Mark believes the issue with 'all day' subgroup events appearing on the wrong (previous) day is time zone related and he will investigate further when he returns from holiday w/c 29-Apr.

Regards,
Andy

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:17 PM, Tami Sheheri wrote:

Yikes!!! What a mess...Sorry!

Tami -- Not to worry. I will merge the two threads. It's not that big of a deal.

Regards,
Bruce?
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Yikes!!! What a mess...Sorry! I was having trouble figuring out how to reply to my own post and apparently failed miserably (insert blushing emoji here). You can go ahead and delete them.?