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Re: y dna test

 

Yes! Family Tree DNA is the testing provider for our project.



Let me know if you have any questions or need assistance.

Kevinl Daniel


On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 10:58:26 AM CST, JACK W LECHIEN <jlechien@...> wrote:



-- Is there a preferred y dna test provider for purposes of Daniel research? Thanks, Jack Le Chien

jlc


y dna test

 


-- Is there a preferred y dna test provider for purposes of Daniel research? Thanks, Jack Le Chien

jlc


Re: Abraham Daniel (1734 - 1798) born in Middlesex, VA

 

Hi, Dave,
The Y-DNA test at Abraham's page on WikiTree is from a descendant of his brother, Josiah.
In all these years, I only recall one bit of descendant talk from Abraham, I think from descendants of his son Leonard. I've traced somewhat down through about the 1950s (born) on Abraham's line, but have not been in contact with anybody.
The error at the wikitree is in giving Abraham's father a middle name of Earl. There is no evidence whatsoever in any records. It popped up a few years ago and is still being spread, although consistently debunked.

Regards,
Pam in CA


Re: Sent urgent email to Kevin

 

Thank you both,
Bill Daniel

On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:16?PM, Kevin Daniel <kevin@...> wrote:

?I reveive these email and am working on a response.

Kevin

On Mon, 2024-01-22 at 13:04 -0500, Elizabeth Daniel Mason wrote:
Hi,
I am a member of the project & sent Kevin an email to both of his
addresses I had and have cc’d him above. Please let me know if those
addresses are correct as I need an answer fairly quickly.
Many thanks,
Elizabeth








Re: Sent urgent email to Kevin

 
Edited

I received these emails and am working on a response.

Kevin

On Mon, 2024-01-22 at 13:04 -0500, Elizabeth Daniel Mason wrote:
Hi,
I am a member of the project & sent Kevin an email to both of his
addresses I had and have cc’d him above. Please let me know if those
addresses are correct as I need an answer fairly quickly.
Many thanks,
Elizabeth




Sent urgent email to Kevin

 

Hi,
I am a member of the project & sent Kevin an email to both of his addresses I had and have cc’d him above. Please let me know if those addresses are correct as I need an answer fairly quickly.
Many thanks,
Elizabeth


Re: Abraham Daniel (1734 - 1798) born in Middlesex, VA

 

Thank you, Laura. That seems to match the birth date and area.


Re: Abraham Daniel (1734 - 1798) born in Middlesex, VA

 

WikiTree is not unreliable.? The families put up there need accurate sources and many members work to maintain the integrity?of the site.?

There are constant connecting, sourcing and cleaning events to maintain?the accuracy of the family trees available there.? Much better than Ancestry or Family Search where anything goes.??

I don't know if this is the correct Abraham you seek, but I found this information at Middlesex, Virginia, Daniel descendants?by Robert Neville Mann and Cathrine Cleek Mann. It lists siblings and parents of Abraham born in 1734

Laura Daniels Nixon

?

 James  Daniel  (3),  son  of  Robert  Daniel  (2)  and 
Margaret  Price,  was  born  November  5,  1707  in  Middlesex  County, 
Virginia;  died  1761  in  Albemarle  County,  Virginia;  married 
November  1,  1725  in  Middlesex  County,  Virginia,  Jane  Hicks. 
The  will  of  James  Daniel  was  recorded  in  Will  Book  2,  page 
94,  Albemarle  County,  Virginia.  It  reads  as  follows; 

In  the  name  of  God  Amen.  I  James  Daniel  of  Albemarle 
County  being  sick  and  'week  in  health  but  of  perfect  sense  mind 
&  membry  do  make  this  my  last  will  and  Testament  as  followeth 
&c . 

Item.  I  give  &  Bequeath  unto  my  Son  Chisley  Daniel  my 
tract  of  Land  in  Lunenburg  County  on  Roanoak  River  as  I  bought 
of  Walter  Cambell  to  him* and  his  heirs'  forever. 

Item.  I  give  and  Bequeath  unto  my  son  Abraham  Daniel  the 
land  whereon  I  live  with  half  of  my  tract  of  Land  joining  where 
Margret  Abbott  did  live  after  my  decease  to  him  and  his  heirs 
f  orever . 
79.  i.  Ruth  Daniel  (4),  born  July  5,  1728,  a  twin; 

died  c.  1760. 

80.  ii.  Margaret  Daniel  (4),  born  July  5,  1728,  a  twin 

to  Ruth  above;  died  March  17,  1734. 

+  81.  iii.  Chesley  Daniel  (4),  born  January  16,  1730. 

+  82.  iv.  Abraham  Daniel  (4),  born  January  13,  1734. 

83.  v.  James  Daniel  (4),  born  1738;  married  Elizabeth 

Key,  daughter  of  Martin  and  Ann  Key  of  Albemarle  County,  Virginia. 
He  is  believed  to  have  moved  to  Person  County,  North  Carolina. 

84.  vi.  Jane  Daniel  (4),  born  1740;  died  March  10,  1740. 

85.  vii.  Leonard  Daniel  (4),  born  1741.  This  may  have 

been  the  Leonard  Daniel  who  died  in  Shelby  County,  Kentucky  in 


1831 


Abraham Daniel (1734 - 1798) born in Middlesex, VA

 

Hello, does anyone have a connection to Abraham Daniel (1734-1798)??

I realize these Wiki sites are unreliable sometimes, but according to this page he was born in Middlesex Virginia, and there is a Y-DNA test result (M-269).


Re: Sen John Warwick Daniel b1842 descendants?

 

Thank you, Joe. I'll look into the John Warwick b1949.?

Also, there is a bronze statue of John Warwick in Lynchburg.?https://encyclopediavirginia.org/7448hpr-3ba401e5a8a7a8c/


Re: Sen John Warwick Daniel b1842 descendants?

 

I have looked into this line, when I didn't know where my line connected, and it is a pretty thin line, the most recent and only Daniel male I have found is a John Warwick Daniel born about 1949 to John Warwick Daniel III and Alicia Perez Moreno. If this is a correct connection I have not found any descendants for this man, California records are terrible.
? ?You have to be careful because, the name was used by people that as best I can tell are not related, most likely because of John Warwick sr and his status. It would be interesting to find a Y-dna tester though to see which line they connect up to/

On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 08:12:56 AM EST, Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:


He is probably the most publicly known Daniel in the past 200 years, but interestingly, he's not mentioned on Kevin Daniel's danieldna.com website.? Are there any Daniel's that trace their lineage to John Warwick Daniel b1842? Have you tested any of your male descendants Y-DNA?


Sen John Warwick Daniel b1842 descendants?

 

He is probably the most publicly known Daniel in the past 200 years, but interestingly, he's not mentioned on Kevin Daniel's danieldna.com website.? Are there any Daniel's that trace their lineage to John Warwick Daniel b1842? Have you tested any of your male descendants Y-DNA?


Has anyone ever spoken to James Daniels?

 

On Family Tree DNA I have one person who is always at the top of my match lists, James Daniels. We both have taken the Big-Y 700 marker test, and we have the same exact haplogroup, and in fact we are the only two known members in this haplogroup. I've tried to reach out by email for years, but I've never heard back. On his profile, he claims to have descended from Robert DeAnyers, 1172, and claims to be associated with the surname "Daniell" from Warwick County Virginia. My Y-DNA is Is M-269, part of R1B1.?

I have three questions
1) Has anyone made contact with this James Daniels before? If so, can you speak to any connection with Brittain/Britton Daniel b1814?
2) Do you know anything about the Y-DNA of the "Daniell" s from Warwick County Virginia? Are these Daniels M-269 / R1B1?
3) How would James Daniels be related to Robert DeAnyers 1172? Are his male descendents
?M-269 / R1B1?

Kinds regards
David Daniel (Brittain/Britton Daniel b1814)


Re: Joseph, “Job, Jobe,” Daniel and Elizabeth Calaway DNA match to William of Cedar Creek

 

Kevin, I have a question or two regarding something that you said in a message in April:

"I was able to look at the results from kit #4116. They have tested to 111 markers, which is good. They have three 66/67 marker matches, one of which is to another Daniel whose haplogroup is I-M253, but the other two are to men surnamed Pryor and Robertson who are also I-M253. The match to kit #188665 is a 65/67 match. The other matches of kit #4116 to men who have taken 67 or higher marker tests, starts widening but there are significant matches though none are to Daniel men. Match surnames include multiple men named Gordon, Hitchcock and other surnames. At 111 markers, kit #4116 has only two matches, to men named Robertson and Gray."

You had mentioned two men named Robertson & Gray & said they were matches to kit #4116 at 111 markers. How many generations back do you think their connections could be? I am also wondering if you are able to see the paternal ancestor listed for each of these men. I am thinking that the information could be helpful as we continue to search for Joseph Job Daniel's paternal ancestors.


Re: Rowan NC Daniel's

 

The Clay Daniel you have has an email address of:
cdaniel@...
so no, that is not me.


On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 8:35?PM Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:
Under 67 marker matches, I have Clay Daniel, John Daniel Sr 1765-1847.? cdaniel@..., do I have the right person?

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 7:02?PM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Dave, I see your test 789487
Britton Daniel, b. 1814 and d. 1885

But I don't see it as one of my DNA matches. What am I missing?
Clay


On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 4:52?PM Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:
Yes, sir, I was referring to the Family Tree DNA matches between us. We are YDNA matches.?

I'll start a new thread.

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 2:43?PM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Dave, the place you see the DNA participants listed like you say is probably this:


This is a list of ALL of the test results, and not all of them are related. To see your actual relatives, you have to go to your own FTDNA pages at:

and log in as yourself to find your actual matches.

Hope this helps,
Clay

On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 1:07?PM Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:
Hi Clay

My name is David Daniel, my oldest known ancestor is Britton Daniel b1815 on FTDNA you and I are both related closely along with Edward Daniel d1833. Do you have any idea how these lines are connected??

David Daniel

On Fri, Nov 24, 2023, 12:05?AM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Janine, I think James Daniel is the person to talk to, as I now am fully convinced that my gg-grandfather Robert C. Daniel is a son? of Hiram Daniel, and not Joseph 'Job' Daniel. You are right that James Daniel had a lot of information but I don't know where it would be posted. Sorry to be so slow to respond, but this is a busy time.

Clay Daniels

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:55?PM Janine Zerger LAST_NAME <jzerger@...> wrote:
Clay Daniels, I have a question about a comment that you made in this thread back in July of 2021. You were responding to James Daniel, & you mentioned your visit with Evely Van Meter. You also mentioned that Elizabeth (Job Daniel's wife) had written to her son in Lawrence County, TN. I have been working on Job Daniel's ancestors & descendants with Beverly Markland, who is also in this group. We are wondering if you know anything more about these letters, or any other information about Job & Elizabeth that may be helpful in our research.
?
Jame Daniel used to say that he had compiled quite a bit of information about Job & Elizabeth. Do you know if any of his research is available somewhere, such as Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc.?


Re: Rowan NC Daniel's

 

Under 67 marker matches, I have Clay Daniel, John Daniel Sr 1765-1847.? cdaniel@..., do I have the right person?


On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 7:02?PM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Dave, I see your test 789487
Britton Daniel, b. 1814 and d. 1885

But I don't see it as one of my DNA matches. What am I missing?
Clay


On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 4:52?PM Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:
Yes, sir, I was referring to the Family Tree DNA matches between us. We are YDNA matches.?

I'll start a new thread.

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 2:43?PM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Dave, the place you see the DNA participants listed like you say is probably this:


This is a list of ALL of the test results, and not all of them are related. To see your actual relatives, you have to go to your own FTDNA pages at:

and log in as yourself to find your actual matches.

Hope this helps,
Clay

On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 1:07?PM Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:
Hi Clay

My name is David Daniel, my oldest known ancestor is Britton Daniel b1815 on FTDNA you and I are both related closely along with Edward Daniel d1833. Do you have any idea how these lines are connected??

David Daniel

On Fri, Nov 24, 2023, 12:05?AM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Janine, I think James Daniel is the person to talk to, as I now am fully convinced that my gg-grandfather Robert C. Daniel is a son? of Hiram Daniel, and not Joseph 'Job' Daniel. You are right that James Daniel had a lot of information but I don't know where it would be posted. Sorry to be so slow to respond, but this is a busy time.

Clay Daniels

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:55?PM Janine Zerger LAST_NAME <jzerger@...> wrote:
Clay Daniels, I have a question about a comment that you made in this thread back in July of 2021. You were responding to James Daniel, & you mentioned your visit with Evely Van Meter. You also mentioned that Elizabeth (Job Daniel's wife) had written to her son in Lawrence County, TN. I have been working on Job Daniel's ancestors & descendants with Beverly Markland, who is also in this group. We are wondering if you know anything more about these letters, or any other information about Job & Elizabeth that may be helpful in our research.
?
Jame Daniel used to say that he had compiled quite a bit of information about Job & Elizabeth. Do you know if any of his research is available somewhere, such as Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc.?


Re: Rowan NC Daniel's

 

Dave, I see your test 789487
Britton Daniel, b. 1814 and d. 1885

But I don't see it as one of my DNA matches. What am I missing?
Clay


On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 4:52?PM Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:
Yes, sir, I was referring to the Family Tree DNA matches between us. We are YDNA matches.?

I'll start a new thread.

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 2:43?PM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Dave, the place you see the DNA participants listed like you say is probably this:


This is a list of ALL of the test results, and not all of them are related. To see your actual relatives, you have to go to your own FTDNA pages at:

and log in as yourself to find your actual matches.

Hope this helps,
Clay

On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 1:07?PM Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:
Hi Clay

My name is David Daniel, my oldest known ancestor is Britton Daniel b1815 on FTDNA you and I are both related closely along with Edward Daniel d1833. Do you have any idea how these lines are connected??

David Daniel

On Fri, Nov 24, 2023, 12:05?AM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Janine, I think James Daniel is the person to talk to, as I now am fully convinced that my gg-grandfather Robert C. Daniel is a son? of Hiram Daniel, and not Joseph 'Job' Daniel. You are right that James Daniel had a lot of information but I don't know where it would be posted. Sorry to be so slow to respond, but this is a busy time.

Clay Daniels

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:55?PM Janine Zerger LAST_NAME <jzerger@...> wrote:
Clay Daniels, I have a question about a comment that you made in this thread back in July of 2021. You were responding to James Daniel, & you mentioned your visit with Evely Van Meter. You also mentioned that Elizabeth (Job Daniel's wife) had written to her son in Lawrence County, TN. I have been working on Job Daniel's ancestors & descendants with Beverly Markland, who is also in this group. We are wondering if you know anything more about these letters, or any other information about Job & Elizabeth that may be helpful in our research.
?
Jame Daniel used to say that he had compiled quite a bit of information about Job & Elizabeth. Do you know if any of his research is available somewhere, such as Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc.?


Re: Rowan NC Daniel's

 

Yes, sir, I was referring to the Family Tree DNA matches between us. We are YDNA matches.?

I'll start a new thread.

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 2:43?PM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Dave, the place you see the DNA participants listed like you say is probably this:


This is a list of ALL of the test results, and not all of them are related. To see your actual relatives, you have to go to your own FTDNA pages at:

and log in as yourself to find your actual matches.

Hope this helps,
Clay

On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 1:07?PM Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:
Hi Clay

My name is David Daniel, my oldest known ancestor is Britton Daniel b1815 on FTDNA you and I are both related closely along with Edward Daniel d1833. Do you have any idea how these lines are connected??

David Daniel

On Fri, Nov 24, 2023, 12:05?AM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Janine, I think James Daniel is the person to talk to, as I now am fully convinced that my gg-grandfather Robert C. Daniel is a son? of Hiram Daniel, and not Joseph 'Job' Daniel. You are right that James Daniel had a lot of information but I don't know where it would be posted. Sorry to be so slow to respond, but this is a busy time.

Clay Daniels

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:55?PM Janine Zerger LAST_NAME <jzerger@...> wrote:
Clay Daniels, I have a question about a comment that you made in this thread back in July of 2021. You were responding to James Daniel, & you mentioned your visit with Evely Van Meter. You also mentioned that Elizabeth (Job Daniel's wife) had written to her son in Lawrence County, TN. I have been working on Job Daniel's ancestors & descendants with Beverly Markland, who is also in this group. We are wondering if you know anything more about these letters, or any other information about Job & Elizabeth that may be helpful in our research.
?
Jame Daniel used to say that he had compiled quite a bit of information about Job & Elizabeth. Do you know if any of his research is available somewhere, such as Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc.?


Re: Rowan NC Daniel's

 

Dave, the place you see the DNA participants listed like you say is probably this:


This is a list of ALL of the test results, and not all of them are related. To see your actual relatives, you have to go to your own FTDNA pages at:

and log in as yourself to find your actual matches.

Hope this helps,
Clay


On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 1:07?PM Dave <david.matthew.daniel@...> wrote:
Hi Clay

My name is David Daniel, my oldest known ancestor is Britton Daniel b1815 on FTDNA you and I are both related closely along with Edward Daniel d1833. Do you have any idea how these lines are connected??

David Daniel

On Fri, Nov 24, 2023, 12:05?AM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@...> wrote:
Janine, I think James Daniel is the person to talk to, as I now am fully convinced that my gg-grandfather Robert C. Daniel is a son? of Hiram Daniel, and not Joseph 'Job' Daniel. You are right that James Daniel had a lot of information but I don't know where it would be posted. Sorry to be so slow to respond, but this is a busy time.

Clay Daniels

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:55?PM Janine Zerger LAST_NAME <jzerger@...> wrote:
Clay Daniels, I have a question about a comment that you made in this thread back in July of 2021. You were responding to James Daniel, & you mentioned your visit with Evely Van Meter. You also mentioned that Elizabeth (Job Daniel's wife) had written to her son in Lawrence County, TN. I have been working on Job Daniel's ancestors & descendants with Beverly Markland, who is also in this group. We are wondering if you know anything more about these letters, or any other information about Job & Elizabeth that may be helpful in our research.
?
Jame Daniel used to say that he had compiled quite a bit of information about Job & Elizabeth. Do you know if any of his research is available somewhere, such as Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc.?


Re: Rowan NC Daniel's

 

Carolyn, yes--I do think it's generally accepted that Elizabeth Andress & Elizabeth Callaway were the same person. It is believed that she was married to an Andress before she married Job.
?
There are no Y-DNA tests in this project for descendants of Calaway Daniel, who was the son of Job Daniel & the father of Jasper Newton "Jack" Daniel. However, Beverly Markland's great grandfather, Wiley Butler Daniel, was Jack's brother. She is a member of this project & is who I've been working with to determine Job's parentage.
?
There are Y-DNA tests in this project for the descendants of Job Daniel that lived in Wayne County, TN. For example, Job's son William (kit #14965), who was married to Argent, lived in Wayne County, where he died in 1849. And Job's son John, who was married to Avis, had two sons who lived in Wayne County before moving elsewhere--William Mack Daniel (kit #13589) & John Buckley Daniel (kit #4116). My ancestor was William Mack Daniel.
?
As for paper trail evidence as proof of descendancy from Job, I've actually never seen any evidence, but am actively looking.?