There are very few historical books published on railroads by the railroads.? As for the D&H and books written on it, your best source would be to go either to Amazon.com to find books on this railroad published by Howell-North Books publishers or go directly to this publisher for books on the Delaware & Hudson written by Jim Shaughnessy, who was best noted for such publications, and who's books Howell-North Books released.? There hasn't been anything more definitive written on the D&H than what Jim Shaughnessy wrote.?
Ray Wetzel
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From: Chris <blhs209@...>
To: DandH-Railroad < [email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Jan 11, 2020 11:36 am
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] Diesel Class Book(s)
Good Day:
Would anyone happen to know if the D&H produced any diesel class books after 1970?? If so, is there any source I would be able to access?
Chris Shepherd
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Dick Cooper Time Book - Rio Grande
10/7/59 hostler, hostler rate, marked on Burnham 3:59 PM, marked off Burnham 1:00 AM, on duty 9:01, paid $24.23 for 113 miles. -- Ed Cox
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Chris,
I don't believe the D&H itself published anything. Remember, they were under extreme financial hardship in the 70s.
Robert J. Yanosey did publish "Delaware & Hudson Power In Color" through Morning Sun recently.
Ed Cox
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Good Day:
Would anyone happen to know if the D&H produced any diesel class books after 1970?? If so, is there any source I would be able to access?
Chris Shepherd
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Dick Cooper Time Book - 1967
9/9/67 WR1, power 5016-5015-5003-5013, through freight rate, marked on Whitehall 3:00 PM, 10" final terminal delay, marked off Rouses Point 9:10 PM, on duty 6:10, paid $28.00 for 117 miles, V.P. Laundrie engineer, Cooper fireman. -- Ed Cox
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Baldwin 'Sharknose' locomotives will eventually go to museum, owner says
Baldwin
'Sharknose' locomotives will eventually go to museum, owner says
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No. 1216 leads an
Escanaba & Lake Superior freight east of Channing, Mich., on Oct. 25,
1982.
Steve
Glischinski
WELLS, Mich. – The
owner of the only two surviving Baldwin RF-16 "Sharknose" diesel locomotives
says they will eventually go to a museum. Escanaba & Lake Superior Railroad
owner and President John Larkin, in an exclusive interview for Trains News Wire,
says that, upon his passing, the two units will go to museums. What museum that
will be is yet to be determined, he says.
Baldwin built 109 such A units
and 51 B-units between 1950 and 1953 for Baltimore & Ohio, New York Central,
and the Pennsylvania Railroad. In 1967 the Monongahela Railway purchased seven
As and two Bs from NYC, and operated them into the 1970s. The last two As, Nos.
1205 and 1216, which were in danger of scrapping, were purchased by Delaware
& Hudson in 1974. They were used in freight service and in passenger
excursion service on the D&H until late 1978, when they were purchased by
Illinois-based Castolite Corp. That company leased them to the now defunct
Michigan Northern, and then they were moved to E&LS.
No. 1216 was
briefly used by E&LS in the summer of 1979; No. 1205 had mechanical issues
and remained stored. No. 1216 saw another revival in autumn 1982, but after a
few trips between the railroad’s headquarters in Wells and Channing the unit’s
crankshaft broke and it has been stored ever since.
Larkin, 73 acquired
the units in the 1980s and has kept them in indoor storage ever since. He also
acquired Baldwin prime movers and other parts in the event the units were ever
restored, but says the costs of rebuilding them would be significant. “But they
are protected and out of the weather. They are inside so they are not further
deteriorating,” he says.
Many railfans are perplexed as to why the units
are not available for viewing and why nothing has been done with them over the
years. Despite the fact that in the 1980s the owner erected signs that banned
railfans from E&LS property, he sits on the board of the Lake Superior
Railroad Museum and has assisted that group in several restoration projects.
E&LS is working on the restoration and repainting of the museum’s Northern
Pacific North Coast Limited
observation car Rainier Club.
His interest in railway preservation has resulted in his amassing a large
collection of passenger cars and locomotives, but it is his personal, private
collection and therefore is not open to the public.
The railroad is not
accepting phone calls, emails, or other correspondence regarding the
locomotives’ status
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Pre-Amtrak Passenger cars
Does anyone have a list of the heavyweight coaches, baggage cars and ACF (201-206) coaches in the 2 tone gray scheme that were still in service on the Laurentian & Montreal Limited in 1970 & 1971?
Thanks. -- Ed Cox
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Dick Cooper Time Book - with E.B. King
2/27/55 SC14 to WE & Ausable, power 4037, yard rate, marked on Plattsburgh 8:15 AM, marked off Plattsburgh 3:40 PM, on duty 7:25, paid $15.51 for 100 miles, E.B. King engineer, Cooper fireman. -- Ed Cox
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6-2010??? deliveries are at night now
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Dick Cooper Time Book - D&H Steam
1/15/52 #208, power P class 4-6-2 609, passenger rate, marked on Colonie 3:15 PM, marked off Binghamton 9:30 PM, on duty 6:15, paid $16.64 for 149 miles, Nastke engineer, Cooper fireman. -- Ed Cox
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Dick Cooper Time Book - Whitehall 1968
8/14/68 RW6, power 5008-5006-5003-5002-5014, through freight rate, marked on Whitehall 12:45 AM, 25" final terminal delay, marked off Oneonta 5:45 AM, on duty 5:00, paid $33.06 for 135 miles, J. Watanen engineer, Cooper fireman. -- Ed Cox
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Dick Cooper Time Book - 1975
8/25/75 RW6, power 2309-2301-2308-5004-N&W U30B 8522, through freight rate, marked on Whitehall 2:00 AM, marked off Oneonta 8:15 AM, on duty 6:15, paid $58.93 for 130 miles, Jack A. Farrell engineer, Cooper fireman. -- Ed Cox
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Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s
6/22/52 Layed in.
6/23/52 Layed in.
6/24/52 yard, power 3012, yard rate, marked on Mechanicville 4:00 PM, marked off Mechanicville 11:59 PM, on duty 7:59, paid $14.55 for 100 miles, Quinlan engineer, Cooper fireman. -- Ed Cox
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Dick Cooper Time Book - Guilford Error
12/19/84 RPME, power 7318-7321-410, through freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 11:45 PM, 4:55 premium time, outlawed @ Dee's, marked off Mechanicville 12:40 PM, on duty 12:55, paid $339.69 for 327 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, M.J. "Pooper" Willett conductor. -- Ed Cox
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Dick Cooper Time Book - 1960s
3/23/60 Layed in.
3/24/60 SC15, power 4049, yard rate, marked on Plattsburgh 7:30 AM, marked off Plattsburgh 6:50 PM, on duty 11:20 paid $29.30 for 138 miles, E.B. King engineer, Cooper fireman. -- Ed Cox
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Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1970s (300's renumbering)
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On Jan 3, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Chris <blhs209@...> wrote:
?Jerry:
The information I have reflects what Ed has indicated (renumbered 2/1973).? Also the conflict with the hoppers was also told to me by Gordy Smith.
Chris Shepherd
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On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Ed Cox via Groups.Io <edcox13@...> wrote:
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Jerry,
I believe they were renumbered in February of 1973. ?According to Dad's time books, in November '72 they were still numbered as 300's.?Dad did not have any in service during December '72 & January '73. In February '73, he had them in service again and they were numbered in the 2300's.
I did see a set of pictures on-line dated February '73 that showed two units. In the 1st picture, the 1st unit is numbered in the 2300 series and the 2nd unit in the 300 series. The next picture was obviously taken immediately after that picture and showed both numbered in the 2300 series.
According to Dad, the reason they were renumbered was they kept showing up on the EL (Dereco partner) computers as 300 series D&H hoppers.
I know many publications indicate they were renumbered in 1971, but I have numerous pictures and Dad's time books which contradict that information. I have also heard they were renumbered over a period of time, however, Dad's time books never show the two different series at the same time.?
Hope this clarifies things for you.
Ed
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 08:06:55 PM UTC, jerry.albertie@... <jerry.albertie@...> wrote:
TY Ed.
Does anyone know when the 300s were renumbered to the 2300
series?? I'm not finding that easily in my mess.
Thanks,
Jerry
On 1/2/2020 5:47 AM, Ed Cox via
Groups.Io wrote:
12/6/70 RO6, power 313-305-314-306-312, through freight rate,
marked on Whitehall 3:15 AM, marked off Oneonta 9:45 AM, on duty
6:30, pad $35.34 for 130 miles, John T. Bowen engineer, Cooper
fireman.
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Ed Cox
-- Ed Cox
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Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC Catskill Mountain Branch
7/31/47 #521, power FX heavy 4-6-0 811, passenger rate, marked on Kingston 10:15 AM, marked off Oneonta 4:50 PM, on duty 6:35, paid $10.33 for 122 miles, Burnett engineer, Cooper fireman. -- Ed Cox
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Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1970s (300's renumbering)
Jerry:
The information I have reflects what Ed has indicated (renumbered 2/1973).? Also the conflict with the hoppers was also told to me by Gordy Smith.
Chris Shepherd
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Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1970s
Jerry,
I believe they were renumbered in February of 1973. ?According to Dad's time books, in November '72 they were still numbered as 300's.?Dad did not have any in service during December '72 & January '73. In February '73, he had them in service again and they were numbered in the 2300's.
I did see a set of pictures on-line dated February '73 that showed two units. In the 1st picture, the 1st unit is numbered in the 2300 series and the 2nd unit in the 300 series. The next picture was obviously taken immediately after that picture and showed both numbered in the 2300 series.
According to Dad, the reason they were renumbered was they kept showing up on the EL (Dereco partner) computers as 300 series D&H hoppers.
I know many publications indicate they were renumbered in 1971, but I have numerous pictures and Dad's time books which contradict that information. I have also heard they were renumbered over a period of time, however, Dad's time books never show the two different series at the same time.?
Hope this clarifies things for you.
Ed
On Thursday, January 2, 2020, 08:06:55 PM UTC, jerry.albertie@... <jerry.albertie@...> wrote:
TY Ed.
Does anyone know when the 300s were renumbered to the 2300
series?? I'm not finding that easily in my mess.
Thanks,
Jerry
On 1/2/2020 5:47 AM, Ed Cox via
Groups.Io wrote:
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12/6/70 RO6, power 313-305-314-306-312, through freight rate,
marked on Whitehall 3:15 AM, marked off Oneonta 9:45 AM, on duty
6:30, pad $35.34 for 130 miles, John T. Bowen engineer, Cooper
fireman.
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Ed Cox
-- Ed Cox
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