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Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC St. Lawrence Division

 

Ed --

? ? ? ? ?This is interesting! ? This must have been a double-header in both directions. ?Being paid at the local freight rate, does that mean that they worked switching at various places along the way? ?Pulaski? ?Richland at the Rome line? ?Adams? ?I suspect you can only guess as your Dad wrote down nothing more. ?

? ? ? ? ?Also, was he "on watch" on the 2nd engine going north, then fireman "assistant" on the lead engine going south? ?Being on watch must mean watching the gauges, etc., and/or watching out the left side of the cab. ?I'm presuming he 2nd engine would have an engineer and fireman. ??

? ? ?They would have gone by what I can "hear" now from my back yard. ?I can't see anything any more (except in winter) because of the foliage. ?The yard and engine facilities were a little further north then than they are now.

? ? I wonder why double-heading was necessary. ?The line seems pretty flat and level. ?Probably there are hills that don't readily appear.

Dave ??

Dave

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On Thursday, July 18, 2024, 07:15:07 AM EDT, Ed Cox via groups.io <edcox13@...> wrote:


10/8/48 B1Wx/DWx, power Alco class L-1b 4-8-2 2582 on B1Wx, Alco class L-2a 4-8-2 2785 on DWx, local freight rate, marked on DeWitt 11:45 AM, Cooper engine watch on Alco class L-2a 4-8-2 2751 on train B1Wx, marked off DeWitt 2:15 AM, on duty 14:30, paid $25.22 for 222 miles, S. Isham engineer, Cooper engine watch/fireman.
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This was a turn job with B1Wx going north to Watertown and DWx going south back to DeWitt. Dad would have been assigned the engine watch on the 2751 going north. He probably assisted the fireman on the 2785 going south.


Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC St. Lawrence Division

 

10/8/48 B1Wx/DWx, power Alco class L-1b 4-8-2 2582 on B1Wx, Alco class L-2a 4-8-2 2785 on DWx, local freight rate, marked on DeWitt 11:45 AM, Cooper engine watch on Alco class L-2a 4-8-2 2751 on train B1Wx, marked off DeWitt 2:15 AM, on duty 14:30, paid $25.22 for 222 miles, S. Isham engineer, Cooper engine watch/fireman.
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This was a turn job with B1Wx going north to Watertown and DWx going south back to DeWitt. Dad would have been assigned the engine watch on the 2751 going north. He probably assisted the fireman on the 2785 going south.


Dick Cooper Time Book - Guilford Error

 

9/30/85 Regular day off.
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10/1/85 PYRP, power B&M 351-D&H 7405-B&M 364-MEC 285, through freight rate, marked on Mechanicville 8:00 PM, taxi to train @ Mohawk, marked off Rouses Point 7:45 AM, on duty 11:45, paid $238.08 for 246 miles, Cooper engineer, T. Vogt fireman/trainee, T. Heller conductor.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1980s

 

6/17/80 WR7, power 7615-7408-CR GP38-2 8234-8237, through freight rate, marked on Hudson 11:30 PM, marked off Oneonta 12:05 PM, on duty 12:35, paid $145.97 for 171 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, Tommy Flynn conductor.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1970s

 

5/15/71 WR1, power 704-709-754, through freight rate, marked on Oneonta 11:15 AM, 23" initial terminal delay, marked off Whitehall 4:45 PM, on duty 5:30, paid $41.35 for 135 miles, Stan Chapman engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1969

 

4/23/69 NJ 101-200, power NJ 4051, local freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 7:30 AM, marked off Rouses Point 4:10 PM, on duty 8:40, paid $35.82 for 112 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, E.R. Christie conductor.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1962

 

5/18/62 SC20, power 4118-4128-4074, local freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 5:45 AM, marked off Whitehall 12:45 PM, on duty 7:00, paid $24.29 for 115 miles, A. Gennette engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - Rio Grande

 

10/19/61 XW1 (extra west), power narrow gauge class K-36 2-8-2 486, local freight rate, marked on Alamosa 11:00 AM, ran lite, marked off Chama 9:10 PM, on duty 10:10, paid $30.16 for 147 miles, C.T. Sisemore engineer, Cooper fireman.


Re: C-420 Schematic Drawing

 

Thanks Sam.

Ed

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 11:09:27 AM EDT, Sam <samuelbehlen@...> wrote:


Have you reached out to Alco Historic Photos? They have around 10000 drawings. You'll need a check and snailmail it though.

--
Ed Cox


Re: C-420 Schematic Drawing

 

Have you reached out to Alco Historic Photos? They have around 10000 drawings. You'll need a check and snailmail it though.


C-420 Schematic Drawing

 

Does anyone know were I can find a good schematic drawing of the Alco C-420?

Thanks.

Ed


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1960s

 

4/12-27/61 Furloughed.

4/28/61 Plattsburg yard, power 4028, yard-local freight rate, marked on Plattsburg 11:00 PM, marked off Plattsburg 7:00 AM, on duty 8:00, paid $22.56 for 100 miles, A.J. Bombardier engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - with E.B. King

 

6/28/64 Plattsburg yard, power 4119, yard-local freight rate, marked on Plattsburg 6:30 AM, marked off Plattsburg 2:30 PM, on duty 8:00, paid $22.56 for 100 miles, E.B. King engineer, Cooper fireman.


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

 

Ed
I thought it had something to do with the Cherry Vally branch.
Thank You
Al

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From: "Ed Cox via groups.io"
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Sent: Tuesday July 9 2024 10:55:04AM
Subject: Re: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

Al,

I looked it up on the map. Dad may have spelled it wrong. Hyndsville, NY is about halfway between Cobleskill and Seward on the Cherry Valley branch.

Ed

On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 08:12:45 AM EDT, Al Zubal <azubal@...> wrote:


Ed
Where is Hindsville? The only place I can think of is just west of Cobleskill about where the Cherry valley branch left the main.
Thank you
Al

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From: "Ed Cox via groups.io"
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Sent: Tuesday July 9 2024 7:08:23AM
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

3/31-4/1/53 Layed in.

4/2/53 work Hindsville, power 3015, through freight rate, marked on Mohawk 5:00 AM, marked off Mohawk 5:50 PM, on duty 12:50, paid $26.03 for 191 miles, MaGee engineer, Cooper fireman.

--
Ed Cox


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

 

Al,

I looked it up on the map. Dad may have spelled it wrong. Hyndsville, NY is about halfway between Cobleskill and Seward on the Cherry Valley branch.

Ed

On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 08:12:45 AM EDT, Al Zubal <azubal@...> wrote:


Ed
Where is Hindsville? The only place I can think of is just west of Cobleskill about where the Cherry valley branch left the main.
Thank you
Al

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From: "Ed Cox via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday July 9 2024 7:08:23AM
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

3/31-4/1/53 Layed in.

4/2/53 work Hindsville, power 3015, through freight rate, marked on Mohawk 5:00 AM, marked off Mohawk 5:50 PM, on duty 12:50, paid $26.03 for 191 miles, MaGee engineer, Cooper fireman.

--
Ed Cox


Re: Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

 

Ed
Where is Hindsville? The only place I can think of is just west of Cobleskill about where the Cherry valley branch left the main.
Thank you
Al

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From: "Ed Cox via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday July 9 2024 7:08:23AM
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

3/31-4/1/53 Layed in.

4/2/53 work Hindsville, power 3015, through freight rate, marked on Mohawk 5:00 AM, marked off Mohawk 5:50 PM, on duty 12:50, paid $26.03 for 191 miles, MaGee engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

 

3/31-4/1/53 Layed in.

4/2/53 work Hindsville, power 3015, through freight rate, marked on Mohawk 5:00 AM, marked off Mohawk 5:50 PM, on duty 12:50, paid $26.03 for 191 miles, MaGee engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - NYC St. Lawrence Division

 

10/7/48 ST-5, power class F-12g 4-6-0 1279, local freight rate, marked on DeWitt 10:45 AM, marked off DeWitt 10:20 PM, on duty 11:35, paid $18.40 for 167 miles, Doonan engineer, Cooper fireman.


Dick Cooper Time Book - Guilford Error

 
Edited

9/29/85 CXOI, power 7321-B&M 308-357-358, through freight rate, marked on Rouses Point 11:30 PM, train to Mohawk, taxi to Mechanicville, marked off Mechanicville 9:30 AM, on duty 10:00, paid $196.46 for 203 miles, Cooper engineer, T. Vogt fireman/trainee, T. Heller conductor.

Date corrected.


Dick Cooper Time Book - 1980s

 

6/16/80 SB4, power 2303-2308-7325-7406, through freight rate, marked on Oneonta 10:00 PM, 10" initial terminal delay, 30" time off assignment on CR (LV), marked off Hudson 8:20 AM, on duty 8:20, paid $128.19 for 152 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, J. McAndrews conductor.