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Ossie wrote:
>>Ken is just on another level ... half the time I don't understand anything he is saying ....<< ?
(LOL) I still find myself
falling asleep while listening to him on tapes. And sometimes I need to run it
over a few times before I seem to get it. Actually, I find that by writing down
what he is saying, from a tape recorder, helps me to digest each sentance very
slowly. (Which I apparantly need.)
>>I went to the Foundation a couple of months after my son passed away and briefly spoke to Ken, and the one thing I walked away with is that I could not rush through this grief process, but he said I would know when I was making more of it than it really is ... and I understood what he meant.? I am at that point now (almost three years later) ...<< ?
That sounds like helpful
advice. I myself find it difficult responding to a person who has lost a child.
My sister in law, lost her daughter to cancer, and she seemed to need to talk
about her all the time. I think that that too is part of the grieving process.
She too has passed on now, but I think that only another person who has gone
through it, can understand it.
>>I see the pay off of having a son who has passed away ... for it makes me very special, oh boy the attention I can get ... but I don't want it any more ... After reading Gary's book it was clear I was ready to forgive ... so that is what I am working on now.? All those painful memories ... there are a lot of them ... just keep forgiving and remembering not to do it alone.<< ?
Well... in the need for
specialness area, we all want that. Our ego's couldn't survive with out it.
Often when I give up in what seems to be one area of wanting
specialnesss, I seem to quickly find another. And like you say, I just need to
keep on forgiving myself for wanting it, and others for not giving it to me.
:-)
>>So when I go to Atlanta and attend the classes, I will constantly forgive Ken, even though my real forgiveness lessons revolve around Gloria.. something about her irks me.<< ?
I think it is helpful to
notice how much we are irked, by another, (at least for me) because only then do
I know what needs looking at with the Holy Spirit. My husband and I are perfect
learning partners, for each other in this.
>>Ken and the Course speaks on a an intellectual level and I have had a difficult time comprending the Course on that level even though listening to him is stimulating at the same time.? The Course is like listening to music ... I could not tell you really anything really about the music other that I love it ... enjoy listening for it speaks to my spirit.<< ?
I loved that analogy. I
feel that is the way I am learning about the Course. First on an intellectual
level, and then like a piece of music, it seems to become part of me.
>>That is why I appreciate Gary's Book ... because the language that is spoken there is what I can clearly understand.<< ?
Yes, I loved it too. It
spoke of the Course, in a way that I could understand, but was also, was well
written with a touch of mystery to it, that appealed to me.
>> And the beauty of this Course is that when I work it ... my life is easier.? :-)<< ?
Yes. And yes, again. It
works, when I work at doing it. Forgiving. Bringing my grievances to the Holy
Spirit to look at with me. An ongoing procedure I am thinking, until I am
completely free of all of them. I understand it can be done in one instant, but
then I seem to go back and forth. I guess when I truly want them
(my grievances) any more, (or the purpose they serve,) then I will be completely
free of them.? Meanwhile, I will just forgive myself for needing so much
time.
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Peace, Martha
:-)
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