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Re: Can I use a 2m radio with DINAH to set up Allstar access for a local repeater?

 

You may want to check the FCC rules,? Linking Via VHF is- or was against the rules. I have not boned up on the FCC rules for about 10 years, but I believe links had to be above 222 mhz and previous to that above 432 mhz. By definition it would be a RF link..
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It is also or was against the rules to control a repeater on VHF via signaling- (Touch Tone)
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That VHF rig would have to identify according to Identification protocols also in the rules.? Easy for a Dinah attached to a Raspberry Pi.?
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About 25+ years ago ICOM came out with a Dual band 25 watt FM radio. I believe it was a 7210... It had the ability to cross band repeat and it had frequency agility. I bought the 1st one at the ARRL National Convention. Then subsequently wrote an article in QST regarding how to set up the rig to use it as a remote base, as the owners manual was terse in that regard. I explained it in great detail.? You could set up a input on UHF and transmit out on VHF and change VHF frequency? and offsets, even PL, etc.? The problems was the "mechanism" to do it could be reversed to use VHF as an input and therefore controlling output frequency from VHF via Touch Tones. was against the rules. The EDITORS at QST required a caveat stating so, and there was a rumor the FCC pulled the certification on the radio because it could be setup to violate rules and regs out of the box. Something they didn't dive into when the radio was sent for certification.? The radio was only sold a short time after my article was published in QST... The exact reason they quit selling the radio in the USA was never uncovered.
I still have mine, and the UHF final brick is blown. I have a new one to install, but it's one of those - one of these days repairs.. I really should set it up and as long as it's UHF in and VHF out I'll be fine.. My 50 foot tower is only at 20 feet. I installed a wall bracket on the barn but it's been raining so I have not finished the tower. Temperature right now is 37 degrees. I'm not doing anything this morning, but I'm not motivated to get the rest of that tower in the air. Besides yesterday winds were above 30mph. It will be done by Sunday however.
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Enjoy the Holiday week,
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Larry W8LM
ARRL Life member - Licensed 59 years.?
Mulvane, KANSAS
Re: Can I use a 2m radio with DINAH to set up Allstar access for a local repeater?

 

I have a node on a repeater using a remote radio and I set it to duplex=0 that way there is no ID coming from the node and the club repeater folks are happy about that.? I also did a noununct setting of one to do away of the courtesy tones on the node. Now the issue your having with the repeater in a loop issue can be resolved by adjusting the rxondelay setting in the simple USB menu.

On 11/20/2024 5:27 AM EST josh blanche via groups.io <joshblanche@...> wrote:
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I would also add that the node radio will send the repeater ID and courtesy tone down the network. Some nodes don't allow this traffic. Best way is to make the repeater dumb and allow the node to do the ID and tone.


On Tue, Nov 19, 2024, 10:15?PM Les N4LPK via <N4LPK=[email protected]> wrote:
Are you running it as a duplex =0?
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Les Keegan
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On 11/19/2024 5:10 PM EST Jerry Grimes via <gngrimes=[email protected]> wrote:
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There is a local repeater without Allstar access, and we'd like to enable that without adding anything at the repeater site.? We are trying to set up a VHF rig with a DINAH, so the Allstar audio would be sent to the repeater.? The repeater audio would be received into the Allstar node by the radio.

We attempted it, but the repeater starts looping a transmit/receive cycle as soon as the TX is released.? So it sits quietly, receives audio ok, but as soon as we try transmitting via the DINAH node, the repeater keeps cycling.

Is there a way to do this, or are we just missing something basic?

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Re: Can I use a 2m radio with DINAH to set up Allstar access for a local repeater?

 

I would also add that the node radio will send the repeater ID and courtesy tone down the network. Some nodes don't allow this traffic. Best way is to make the repeater dumb and allow the node to do the ID and tone.


On Tue, Nov 19, 2024, 10:15?PM Les N4LPK via <N4LPK=[email protected]> wrote:
Are you running it as a duplex =0?
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Les Keegan
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On 11/19/2024 5:10 PM EST Jerry Grimes via <gngrimes=[email protected]> wrote:
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There is a local repeater without Allstar access, and we'd like to enable that without adding anything at the repeater site.? We are trying to set up a VHF rig with a DINAH, so the Allstar audio would be sent to the repeater.? The repeater audio would be received into the Allstar node by the radio.

We attempted it, but the repeater starts looping a transmit/receive cycle as soon as the TX is released.? So it sits quietly, receives audio ok, but as soon as we try transmitting via the DINAH node, the repeater keeps cycling.

Is there a way to do this, or are we just missing something basic?

Re: Can I use a 2m radio with DINAH to set up Allstar access for a local repeater?

 

Are you running it as a duplex =0?
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Les Keegan
N4LPK?

On 11/19/2024 5:10 PM EST Jerry Grimes via groups.io <gngrimes@...> wrote:
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There is a local repeater without Allstar access, and we'd like to enable that without adding anything at the repeater site.? We are trying to set up a VHF rig with a DINAH, so the Allstar audio would be sent to the repeater.? The repeater audio would be received into the Allstar node by the radio.

We attempted it, but the repeater starts looping a transmit/receive cycle as soon as the TX is released.? So it sits quietly, receives audio ok, but as soon as we try transmitting via the DINAH node, the repeater keeps cycling.

Is there a way to do this, or are we just missing something basic?

Can I use a 2m radio with DINAH to set up Allstar access for a local repeater?

 

There is a local repeater without Allstar access, and we'd like to enable that without adding anything at the repeater site.? We are trying to set up a VHF rig with a DINAH, so the Allstar audio would be sent to the repeater.? The repeater audio would be received into the Allstar node by the radio.

We attempted it, but the repeater starts looping a transmit/receive cycle as soon as the TX is released.? So it sits quietly, receives audio ok, but as soon as we try transmitting via the DINAH node, the repeater keeps cycling.

Is there a way to do this, or are we just missing something basic?
Re: how to set a ctcss tone when using dinah

 

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Adjust the radio itself.

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Re: how to set a ctcss tone when using dinah

 

You set up CTCSS in the radio that DINAH is connected to.? Thr radio combines CTCSS with squelch to create a composite squelch signal.
how to set a ctcss tone when using dinah

 

hi i want to setup a ctcss tone for TX i am using a Dinah node Thanks
Re: changing image on Supermon 7.4

 

changing image on Supermon 7.4

 

hi all i am trying to change my image on my supermon header looking for info on how to do it
Re: Changing Freg

 

You reprogram the frequency in the radio that DINAH is connected to.
Re: Changing simplex freg

 

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What radio is your Dinah plugged into?

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For me, it’s a Kenwood TM-V71A, and I just tune the VFO.

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Re: Changing Freg

 

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Adjust your radio???? ?
Changing Freg

 

Hey just woundering how i would go about changeing my operating freg its 146.550 now i want to change to146.560 thanks
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Re: Strange behaviour when dinah connected to pi

 

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Try wrapping your hand around the USB cable (if not directly plugged into the Pi) or the radio cable leading into the DINAH, for 5-10 minutes and see if your Pi behaves itself.?? I had issues with that and the addition of a ferrite cleaned it right up.??? And this was interfacing to a DR-135 on an external antenna, not an HT that might have been transmitting too close.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 9/11/2024 8:23 PM, James Wheeler - AA5JW wrote:

My DINAH is causing my pi node to act erratic. It works fine for a while, then sometimes it knocks out the wifi on the pi itself out. I ping the pi and it will be non responsive, if i unplug the DINAH, the pi immediately returns to normal operation, and the come back online. It is a strange problem to have. Possibly I messed up when soldering something? The pi case is a skeleton case, so maybe there is some interference between the pi and the DINAH. I figured since the DINAH does not have a radio inside of it, it wouldn't be as much of an issue.?
Strange behaviour when dinah connected to pi

James Wheeler - AA5JW
 

My DINAH is causing my pi node to act erratic. It works fine for a while, then sometimes it knocks out the wifi on the pi itself out. I ping the pi and it will be non responsive, if i unplug the DINAH, the pi immediately returns to normal operation, and the come back online. It is a strange problem to have. Possibly I messed up when soldering something? The pi case is a skeleton case, so maybe there is some interference between the pi and the DINAH. I figured since the DINAH does not have a radio inside of it, it wouldn't be as much of an issue.?
Re: DINAH with FTM-500

 

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Did you make your own cable to go between the Dinah and the FTM-500?

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Page 70 of the operating manual, go through the DATA section.? You will need to select the DATA BAND.? Also set DATA SPEED for 1200 packet as that will leave pre-emph/de-emph ?enabled at the radio(turn it off in simple-usb-tune).

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-Michael N5ZR

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of josh blanche
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 11:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DINAH] DINAH with FTM-500

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Has anyone used a DINAH with an FTM-500? I have been unable to make it work inbound or outbound.?
DINAH with FTM-500

 

Has anyone used a DINAH with an FTM-500? I have been unable to make it work inbound or outbound.?
Re: DINAH Compatibility

 

It has a 6 pin miniDIN packet connection so it should work fine with DINAH.
DINAH Compatibility

 

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I have a ft-8100 that I would like to use as an allstar node for my local ham community. I am wondering if the device is compatible with that radio or if I will need to modify anything?

Thank you

Mike Lancaster
KC9CFL
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