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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
George Jones
开云体育One thing that would spur DD activity is if ICOM
had designed the DD box as a true repeater and not just an access
point.
I have considered adding a second DD box to my
stack and pass the data from one box to the other through a server.
Since our current box operates in the 1250 range we
could easily put another box in the 1297 range and create a true
repeater.
I am not sure it is worth all of the effort just to
get ISDN speeds. There are other less expensive options that are
faster.
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George - W4AQR
From: Dean Gibson AE7Q
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 12:13 PM
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Subject: Re: [D-STAR_23cm] Re: 23cm D-Star HT My guess is that sales of the ID-1 have not been up to Icom's expectations (for several reasons).? My guess is that they have significant overstock (hence the recent price reduction on the ID-1). I own an ID-1, and all my contacts on it have been on FM !? The last one was a three-way conversation with another ID-1 owner and an IC-9100 owner, on a 23cm FM repeater some 35 miles away (which I can successfully use at the one watt setting) !!! There are two closer 23cm DV modules and three 23cm DD modules, and all have been on the air for years.? One pair suffers from a VERY poor location, another pair suffers from an untuned duplexer, and the third DD module is not connected to the Internet (which makes it useless). If anyone thinks it's frustrating to be in an area with no local 23cm D-Star modules on the air, it is no less frustrating to have them on the air but unusable.? Situations like this do not spur the sales of ID-1 radios. On 2013-11-05 07:37, Mark Thompson wrote:
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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
I seem to recall some concern about 23 cm near the head when they opened it novices. Even though it is taking longer than any of us hoped, the UDR56k-4 should provide a DD capability for around half the cost and on 70cm. ---In D-STAR_23cm@..., <w4aqr@...> wrote: I have ask that question on several occasions. The
response I got back was, "it was due to them?not being able to design in
enough battery capacity to support the 1.2-GHZ DD mode".
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?At the same?time I also ask the question
"why they did not come out with a less costly version of the ID-1 without the DD
mode features". The response I got back was that the DD mode components used in
the
?ID-1 did not amount to a significant cost
savings if left them?out?of a new model. At one point ICOM said that
they would not build a 23cm radio without the DD capability..... Take a look at
the IC-9100...NO DD.? go figure.....
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?I believe it is time for a tri-band
D-STAR HT.? Those of us who run full stack repeater systems would
appreciate an HT that would let us monitor activity on all of the
modules.?
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Recently there has been significant strides in HT
designs that takes advantage of the Lithium Polymer batteries and power
management. Take a look at current crop of cell phones.? We need a SMART-HT
that is software?defined (SDR) and?will?work 2-meters, 70cm and
1.2 GHZ.?
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George - W4AQR
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From: Mark Phillips
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 10:59 AM
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Subject: Re: [D-STAR_23cm] 23cm D-Star HT Imagination failure!
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:15 PM, <kj6kmt@...>
wrote:
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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
Dean Gibson AE7Q
开云体育Something may have been "lost in the translation" (both figuratively and literally).? "Stopping production", whether temporarily (eg, due to overstock) or permanently, is not the same as stopping sales (and in a particular geographic region or country).My guess is that sales of the ID-1 have not been up to Icom's expectations (for several reasons).? My guess is that they have significant overstock (hence the recent price reduction on the ID-1). I own an ID-1, and all my contacts on it have been on FM !? The last one was a three-way conversation with another ID-1 owner and an IC-9100 owner, on a 23cm FM repeater some 35 miles away (which I can successfully use at the one watt setting) !!! There are two closer 23cm DV modules and three 23cm DD modules, and all have been on the air for years.? One pair suffers from a VERY poor location, another pair suffers from an untuned duplexer, and the third DD module is not connected to the Internet (which makes it useless). If anyone thinks it's frustrating to be in an area with no local 23cm D-Star modules on the air, it is no less frustrating to have them on the air but unusable.? Situations like this do not spur the sales of ID-1 radios. On 2013-11-05 07:37, Mark Thompson
wrote:
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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
开云体育I have heard (different E-mail, several months back) it is an EU-only impact. Shane In God We Trust Sent from my iFoam Tripoli 12907 L3 On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:37, Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@...> wrote:
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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
From: ON7DS <sd2550@...>; To: ; Subject: [D-STAR_23cm] Re: 23cm D-Star HT Sent: Tue, Nov 5, 2013 1:29:06 PM
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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
beamar
Did they give a reason? It is a little hard for me to believe that they would permanently stop production of 23 cm gear, because of all the 23 cm operations in Japan. As to Handi Talkies, I am not sure that DD is feasible with a H/T. DD is hard enough with 10 watts. But, as someone said, a Triband DV H/T would be quite attractive.? Buddy WB4OMG On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:29:06 AM, ON7DS wrote:
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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
Thanks George 73 ---In d-star_23cm@..., <daywalker_blade_2004@...> wrote: Then leave it out, since I'm not going to want to use it on an HT; of course, this leads to the question of why they didn't add a lower speed DD mode, unless they didn't see the usefulness of it. Matthew Pitts N8OHU
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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
Then leave it out, since I'm not going to want to use it on an HT; of course, this leads to the question of why they didn't add a lower speed DD mode, unless they didn't see the usefulness of it. Matthew Pitts N8OHU
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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
George Jones
开云体育I have ask that question on several occasions. The
response I got back was, "it was due to them?not being able to design in
enough battery capacity to support the 1.2-GHZ DD mode".
?
?At the same?time I also ask the question
"why they did not come out with a less costly version of the ID-1 without the DD
mode features". The response I got back was that the DD mode components used in
the
?ID-1 did not amount to a significant cost
savings if left them?out?of a new model. At one point ICOM said that
they would not build a 23cm radio without the DD capability..... Take a look at
the IC-9100...NO DD.? go figure.....
?
?I believe it is time for a tri-band
D-STAR HT.? Those of us who run full stack repeater systems would
appreciate an HT that would let us monitor activity on all of the
modules.?
?
Recently there has been significant strides in HT
designs that takes advantage of the Lithium Polymer batteries and power
management. Take a look at current crop of cell phones.? We need a SMART-HT
that is software?defined (SDR) and?will?work 2-meters, 70cm and
1.2 GHZ.?
?
George - W4AQR
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From: Mark Phillips
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 10:59 AM
To: D-STAR_23cm@...
Subject: Re: [D-STAR_23cm] 23cm D-Star HT Imagination failure!
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:15 PM, <kj6kmt@...>
wrote:
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Re: 23cm D-Star HT
Imagination failure! On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:15 PM, <kj6kmt@...> wrote:
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File - D-STAR 23cm Monthly Announcement.txt
D-STAR 23cm Ops -
Thanks for participating in the D-STAR 23cm group. If you're using or experimenting with D-STAR on 23m currently let the group know how you're using D-STAR by sending a message to the group, adding a Link in the Links area and/or Uploading a File to the Files area. Messages & articles about how you currently or plan to use the high-speed data capability would be of particualar interest to group memebers. By the way, there are already dozens of messages in the group's message log and numerous files & links in the Files & Links areas about all aspects of D-STAR. Please also let other D-STAR users, including those don't yet use D-STAR on 23cm, who aren't members of the group know about the group. D-STAR 23cm Group |
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File - D-STAR 23cm Monthly Announcement.txt
D-STAR 23cm Ops -
Thanks for participating in the D-STAR 23cm group. If you're using or experimenting with D-STAR on 23m currently let the group know how you're using D-STAR by sending a message to the group, adding a Link in the Links area and/or Uploading a File to the Files area. Messages & articles about how you currently or plan to use the high-speed data capability would be of particualar interest to group memebers. By the way, there are already dozens of messages in the group's message log and numerous files & links in the Files & Links areas about all aspects of D-STAR. Please also let other D-STAR users, including those don't yet use D-STAR on 23cm, who aren't members of the group know about the group. D-STAR 23cm Group |
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Re: Using High Speed Data
Dean Gibson AE7Q
开云体育Good info below!? Questions at the bottom:On 2012-10-16 08:43, John wrote:
I'd like to try sending anything via our local (K7LWH) RP2D module, but the questions are general.? I've sent up my LAN (172.x.x.x) gateway's routing table to route all accesses to 10.x.x.x to the internal side of an old LinkSys BESFR41 router, with the external side of the router connected to my ID-1.? The external side of the router is configured to use one of my D-Star registration-allocated IP addresses (10.108.78.227). Naturally, I'd like to PING something and get a response back.? When I point the ID-1 at K7LWH__A (DD) with UR="CQCQCQ" and PING 10.0.0.1, I see the radio transmit, so all that works.? However, I don't see a response back (on the radio).? There are often 23cm issues with that site.? So, my questions are: ? #1.? Is there a way to see if a given DD module is even on the air?? The K7LWH page is no help (because it's oriented to DPlus DV traffic, I assume).? There's no indication on the page that K7LWH is hearing AE7Q___N (note that the "Last Heard" data is for the K7LWH/A DV module, not the DD module).? However, I don't know if that page tracks DD modules (I would hope so, since callsign routing is supposed to work in DD mode). ? #2.? If a local DD module is on the air, is there a good local (ie, in the gateway) 10.x.x.x IP address to use for testing (eg, PING)?? That would nicely allow for a local test. ? #3.? Once I get local traffic working, the next task is to pick another DD repeater site, and try to send traffic there.? I assume I'd then use callsign routing (or repeater routing) to get the traffic there, and then PING an appropriate 10.x.x.x site there.? It would be nice if there was a 10.x.x.x IP address on the DD network, that simply replied to PINGs, or even better, had a "here am I" or echo response like a trivial web page ... ? #4. I understand from John Hay's eMail above, that there's a similar protocol to getting traffic through the ID-1 directly to the Internet (eg, UR set to the gateway callsign), but I understand that's discouraged or restricted due to legal issues. ? #5. Finally, callsign routing:? If I use repeater A in DD mode, and then use repeater B in DV mode (using the same MyCall), obviously callsign-routed DV traffic to me from someone else will now go to repeater B.? My question is, where will callsign-routed DD traffic to me go? |
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ARRL/TAPR DCC Forum Schedule, Banquet Speaker & Sunday Seminar Announced
? 2013 ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communication Conference) ? Friday, 9/20?- Sunday, 9/22 ? Cedarbrook Lodge, Seattle, WA ? ? Preliminary DCC Technical & Introductory Forums Schedule On-Line at link below & attached:
? ? ARRL/TAPR DCC Seattle Saturday Evening Banquet Speaker will be:? Tom Van Baak Presenting “Passion and Precision: Adventures of a Time Nut” ? ? ARRL/TAPR DCC Seattle Sunday Morning Seminar will be? Conducted by Ron Frohne, KL7NA? Presenting "Android Programming Tutorial" ? ? On-line DCC?Registration?at: ? The Early Bird Discount for DCC Pre-Registration has been extended to midnight Friday, September 13. Walk-ins will be welcome throughout the DCC, but the Early Bird Discount will no longer be applicable |
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File - D-STAR 23cm Monthly Announcement.txt
D-STAR 23cm Ops -
Thanks for participating in the D-STAR 23cm group. If you're using or experimenting with D-STAR on 23m currently let the group know how you're using D-STAR by sending a message to the group, adding a Link in the Links area and/or Uploading a File to the Files area. Messages & articles about how you currently or plan to use the high-speed data capability would be of particualar interest to group memebers. By the way, there are already dozens of messages in the group's message log and numerous files & links in the Files & Links areas about all aspects of D-STAR. Please also let other D-STAR users, including those don't yet use D-STAR on 23cm, who aren't members of the group know about the group. D-STAR 23cm Group |
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Re: File - D-STAR 23cm Monthly Announcement.txt
On 01/08/13 09:46, D-STAR_23cm@... wrote:
D-STAR 23cm Ops -Hi Folks, Just a heads up, I started some testing a while ago of OLSR and Batman over a simple 3 node DD-mode network (linear). The testing has taken me much longer than I had hoped. My plan is to submit a paper to the DCC (which I might yet manage). In short, the (not unexpected result) is that you need to increase the Hello interval (OLSR) out to 30+ maybe even more seconds to get a reasonable tcp throughput. The defaults are practically useless for anything other than a point-to-point link, with the obvious consequence that using it while actually 'mobile' would prove problematic as the time taken to update all nodes in the network about a change of location will end up being in the order of minutes. Regards John EI7IG |
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File - D-STAR 23cm Monthly Announcement.txt
D-STAR 23cm Ops -
Thanks for participating in the D-STAR 23cm group. If you're using or experimenting with D-STAR on 23m currently let the group know how you're using D-STAR by sending a message to the group, adding a Link in the Links area and/or Uploading a File to the Files area. Messages & articles about how you currently or plan to use the high-speed data capability would be of particualar interest to group memebers. By the way, there are already dozens of messages in the group's message log and numerous files & links in the Files & Links areas about all aspects of D-STAR. Please also let other D-STAR users, including those don't yet use D-STAR on 23cm, who aren't members of the group know about the group. D-STAR 23cm Group |
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Icom D-STAR Infrastructure Program
D-STAR Infrastructure Program?
Icom has seen incredible growth of D-STAR over the past four years! With the release of the ID-51A and IC-7100, we see more people get on the air with D-STAR. In response to the requests to make the infrastructure more affordable, Icom America and Icom Canada are teaming up to expand the number of repeaters across the US and Canada! For a limited time, this promotion is directly through Icom America Inc. and Icom Canada, and NOT available through any US or Canadian dealers. ?Model Retail ID-RP2C 06/RS-RP2 G2 $ 849.95 ID-RP2D 26 $ 599.95 ID-RP2V 26 $ 749.95 ID-RP2000V 26 $ 749.95 ID-RP4000V 26 $ 749.95 ? ? Promotion dates: July 22nd - December 31st, 2013 ? The pricing shown above is unit price only ? Shipping and applicable taxes apply ? Pricing is valid directly from Icom America Inc. and Icom Canada ? Limit two systems per club ? US & Canadian Customers only? To take advantage of the D-STAR infrastructure promotion, contact the Icom location for your area. US Customers contact Icom America, Inc. Phone: 800-346-0495 Fax: 425-586-6305 Email: parts@...? Canadian Customers contact Icom Canada Phone: 604.952.4266 Fax: 604.952.0090 Email: Sales@...?? Vol. 14.07 July 22, 2013 |
John Hays - K7VE / WRJT-215
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