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Re: Lack of Groups Activity for a Long Time...

 

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No news is good news. The proxy war in the Ukraine hasn't gotten out of hand. No tsunamis lately, either.

On 11/6/2024 2:15 AM, Cliff via groups.io wrote:

Dear Group Members,

??? I haven't seen any activity on the groups (GeigerCounters, CDV700CLUB, and GammaSpectroscopy) since late September and mid October.? What's going on?? Thanks.

~Cliff


Lack of Groups Activity for a Long Time...

 

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Dear Group Members,

??? I haven't seen any activity on the groups (GeigerCounters, CDV700CLUB, and GammaSpectroscopy) since late September and mid October.? What's going on?? Thanks.

~Cliff


Re: i need help with my cdv700

 

can you make a guide of how to install the ebay transformer?


Re: i need help with my cdv700

 

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Where do you live, Meeps? In the US? send me a PM. I have a hotmail account, too. "davidnix71"

On 9/13/2024 12:41 PM, Group Notification wrote:

can i use just the transformer?
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

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I don't know. I don't have the specs on the original transformer and I don't have an ENi to mess around with and see.


On 9/13/2024 6:22 PM, Group Notification wrote:

would it work with just the transformer?
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

As David71 pointed out, you can used that inverter module with a separate power source in lieu of the whole inverter section in the? Eni to generate the 900V. You can't use just the transformer from the inverter.
Additionally, one of the ? low side winding in the ENI is used to generate another low voltage, something like -10V so if that part isn't working even using an external inverter may not help. If electronics is weak area for you,? try to find someone you know that is familiar with analog electronics. Any of your friend ham radio operators? ?
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Good luck
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

would it work with just the transformer?
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

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You can do whatever you want. I'm not an electrical engineer. It's your CDV. The flyback circuits on the CDV used germanium diodes. Newer HV step ups use silicon diodes.

On 9/13/2024 12:41 PM, Group Notification wrote:

can i use just the transformer?
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

can i use just the transformer?
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

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The inverter module has to be powered isolated and separate from the rest of the CDV. If it takes 9v give it a 9v battery or whatever.

On 9/13/2024 4:10 AM, peter via groups.io wrote:

not 100% sure if that inverter module will operate at 3V or operate efficiently at 3V.some that I have seen use a lm555 to drive a logic level mosfet.Vcc min for an lm555 is 4.5V, mosfet won't be turned on hard .
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

not 100% sure if that inverter module will operate at 3V or operate efficiently at 3V.some that I have seen use a lm555 to drive a logic level mosfet.Vcc min for an lm555 is 4.5V, mosfet won't be turned on hard .
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

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Yes, that one. To install it, the center lead of the tube cable is the HV. If you have to ask how, you would be better off paying someone to do it. It's HV, the CDV is positive ground which was standard in the day. The module is negative ground, which is standard today, so the module must be powered by batteries of it's own and isolated from the rest of the ENi. There is plenty of room inside to do that if you switch to AA cells from the original 2x2 D cells.

This is my instructable from many years ago. The output of the new module goes into the board where the zener is in step 2. Because the module is adjustable, you won't need the zener. Lift the resistor off the board as in step 2 and connect the output of the module to the resistor, and make sure the ends are not touching anything else. Adjust the module up until you get clicks from a source. I have seen ENis run of just over 800 volts. The higher you go the more likely you are to break something else.

On 9/12/2024 7:10 PM, Group Notification wrote:
High Voltage Boost DC-DC Converter 3-5V Step-up 1000V Adjustable Power Supply - Picture 1 of 6


Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

High Voltage Boost DC-DC Converter 3-5V Step-up 1000V Adjustable Power Supply - Picture 1 of 6


Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

the 14 dollar one?
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

how would one install it to the cdv 700?
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

I have not tested a bug zapper for continuous duty. I think all the ones i saw were momentary use.
THe Theremino mca and geiger circuits use an inductor in a flyback inverter to generate the HV from 5V
The inductor in these designs is not critical.I was not able to make their design work at 3V, but somone might have some tricks.
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni ready made circuit available

 

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You could try the output of a cheap hand held bug zapper. Buy one the uses 2 AA batteries. The output has to be limited by the manufacturer for human safety. CDV700s use less than 5 micro amps of current. You need a capacitor to smooth the pulses from the zapper and probably some zener diodes turned backwards to drop the voltage to around 900vdc. You need to limit the voltage on an ENI anyway.

?? $14 from a US seller. This is a ready made circuit that will replace the entire tube driving circuit on any CDV.

Up to 1000vdc out from 3 to 5 volts in. More than 10 available.



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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni

 

Wild guess but the inverter transformer from a different CDV700 may also work( you will have to experiment with the phasing of the leads to get it to oscillate)
The inverter portion is pretty similar between teh CFDV700 variants
Just look for another CDV700 that uses 3V for the inverter section, it should work.
Just my $0.02
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Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni

 

let's try....??
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From:?Lenox Carruth <radios@...>
Sent:?Friday, May 08, 2020 9:29 AM
To:?'MT C' <mtcooper01@...>
Subject:?RE: [GeigerCounters] Intro, and seeking help with another CDV700 project

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I Michael,

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These transformers have flexible, colored wire leads so they will fit any hole pattern.? All of the wires come out of one side of the transformer and they are probably an inch-and-a-half long.? You might need to put washers underneath the transformer when you mount it so some of the wires can go under the transformer.? That’s what I had to do with the Victoreen.? I can’t guarantee that these will work but I don’t see why they wouldn’t.? All of these units are just making 900 Volts from a 3 Volt supply.

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I’m a Mechanical Engineer so I understand the problem.? This would be easier if it were a steam engine!

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Lenox

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From:?MT C [mailto:mtcooper01@...]
Sent:?Friday, May 08, 2020 11:12 AM
To:?radios@...
Subject:?RE: [GeigerCounters] Intro, and seeking help with another CDV700 project

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Hi Lenox,

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Sure..??? but the ENI transformer and Victoreen are wired differently.?? The victoreen has two leads one side 4 the other.? The ENI transformer has 3 leads each side.??? Does that matter?? I am not an EE -? a chemical engineer by degree but never clicked with EE?????

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Michael

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From:?Lenox Carruth <radios@...>
Sent:?Friday, May 08, 2020 8:58 AM
To:?mtcooper01@...
Subject:?RE: [GeigerCounters] Intro, and seeking help with another CDV700 project

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I have a couple of Anton transformers that work okay in a Victoreen and will probably work okay in your ENI.? They have colored wire leads so they will fit any board.? The transformers were all pretty much the same.? You may need to make the changes that George made for? his LENI modification which adds a Zener high voltage regulator since the ENI regulates the input rather than the output voltage.

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I think that there is a possibility that these were “universal” replacements because they don’t have the Anton part number but they do have the Anton color coded wires.

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If you want them, I can send them to you for the postage in a small flat rate box which costs slightly less than $9.

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Lenox

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From:?[email protected]?[mailto:[email protected]]?On Behalf Of?Michael C
Sent:?Friday, May 08, 2020 9:29 AM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [GeigerCounters] Intro, and seeking help with another CDV700 project

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where would one get an ENI transformer?? I have a NOS Victoreen transformer, but it is different than the ENI.? And of course the old manuals for these things reference long obsolete part numbers.???


Re: i need help with my cdv700 eni

 

can you copy and paste it here?
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