You gonna bake a batch of boards or is this left to the reader? ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kees T
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] uBitx Unfiltered ? I have Gerbers for 2 different LPF relay boards. Both support the Hans Summers plug-in QRP Labs LPFs. One has space for 4x LPFs like the existing uBITX LPFs and uses smaller Omron DPDT relays and the other has space for up to 6 LPFs and uses the "standard" DPDT relays which uBITX uses. The 4x board has a diode dot OR which makes it compatible with 3 existing Raduino control signals. The 6x board has 6 individual control lines which could be a 6x rotary switch or some type of decoder/driver which could interface to the 3 Raduino control bits (would require a code change for proper LPF selection).
Presently undergoing testing but the Gerbers will be made available.?
73 Kees K5BCQ -- …_. _._
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I have Gerbers for 2 different LPF relay boards. Both support the Hans Summers plug-in QRP Labs LPFs. One has space for 4x LPFs like the existing uBITX LPFs and uses smaller Omron DPDT relays and the other has space for up to 6 LPFs and uses the "standard" DPDT relays which uBITX uses. The 4x board has a diode dot OR which makes it compatible with 3 existing Raduino control signals. The 6x board has 6 individual control lines which could be a 6x rotary switch or some type of decoder/driver which could interface to the 3 Raduino control bits (would require a code change for proper LPF selection).
Presently undergoing testing but the Gerbers will be made available.?
73 Kees K5BCQ
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Re: compiling ubitx ver 4.3
Perhaps I'm just old and in the way, but this "char literal to char" warning seems a bit much,
If the compiler saw where I was later assigning a different value to that char, then it can complain
And I would not.
If you want zero warnings when especially fastidious checking is turned on,
you might be re-writing a bunch of libraries.
Jerry
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:43 AM, <terryhugheskirkcudbright@...> wrote:
the warnings seem to be about conversions fro char literal to char
is thsi a problem
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Re: Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx
Thanks, Gordon!
> Board was laid out correctly with respect to their polarity when installed on top
...which indicates to me that it's meant to be a 'hat' above or 'mat' below the main board, and populating it wrong-side to install upside-down is itself wrong.
.. but that's just my 'logic' :)
73 de ZL2DEX
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Re: compiling ubitx ver 4.3
In one case, I've worked on some of the Google TensorFlow 开云体育 code. Was the Google code free of warnings, no, not at all.?
Often the C++ complier introduces new warnings that are due to improvements in what the compiler can detect or pointing the direction to what is coming in the next versions of the language that will be?deprecated in the future. So, fixing warnings is a matter of judgment and priorities.
A great case example of overzealous commitment to no warnings allowed was a case where someone made no warnings allowed their mission and set the -Werror flag on release code. There were many people working on projects that relied on that code. So along comes a new release of the C++ complier and hundreds of projects are halted and much time wasted (days) until someone could track down the issue not being a real problem, just a ill-advised complier flag setting. The person defended their position to set that flag in spite of the hundreds of person days lost by users.?
In the development build chain, warning free code is a good aspiration. But even companies will weigh the costs of refactoring code against the benefits. Often warnings are generated by included libraries, so unless you have the time to rewrite those yourself it is necessary to wait until the maintainers of the library can prioritize fixing and releasing a new version.?
Tom, wb6b
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Re: compiling ubitx ver 4.3
I agree that warnings and errors in released code detract from the apparent product quality. In one of my jobs I had to deal with 90,000 warnings in one release. Everyone told me that they were insignificant and fixing the warnings would require massive effort, so they simply postponed dealing with them until the final release. I could not stand the situation and started pruning through the code. After two weeks, I uncovered about 100 serious issues and with the help of others (who started paying attention to my work) managed to bring the number of warnings to zero. Only after the value of my work was recognized, the rule became "Zero Warnings".
The above demonstrates that warnings should not be ignored. However, the advantage of open source software (or for that matter hardware), is its transparency. Greater progress can be achieved when hundreds of eyeballs are scanning the code. This is a collaborative effort that requires group collaboration. Maybe a strange concept to people who are used to only consume... If you find an issue in the code, fix it and contribute your fix to the code repository. At least contact the author and request them to fix it. By complaining, you will achieve not much.
--Ron? ?N7FTZ
No disrespect intended, but you do get paid for what you do.? This is a hobby, so in the words of Clint E. “Go ahead, fix my code…”.? ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Timm
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] compiling ubitx ver 4.3 ? As a professional software developer I'm required to deliver code that has no errors and no warnings.? I don't understand why people don't hold themselves to the same standard when releasing software for hobbyist use.? And please don't tell me that it's not worth the time, my response to that is that is indeed worth the time because of the questions it raises when people try to use your code.
73
K5KDT
Kevin
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Re: compiling ubitx ver 4.3
Kevin and MadRadioModder
The Raduino seems to have brought some of us old geezers out of hiding after 10 to 30
years of non-coding.? Since some of us learned our C-language from Dennis Ritchie and
the K&R manual we may not be up to speed with all the changes in C-code standards nor
be using the latest compilers.? This does not fix the warning messages situation but may
explain how some of the present day code is not up to latest standards.?
Part of the problem is that there seem to be several competing standards and slightly
different compilers depending on whether one is using Microsoft, Linux, BSD, Oracle,
IRIX, Solaris, or OS-X as the programming platform.?
So we depend rightly or wrongly on you professional programmers to help us get up to
speed with the latest standards and techniques.? While most will be using some variation
of the GCC compiler, it may not be up to date with latest standards if a new version has
not been installed for a couple of years.? Others using a Microsoft compiler will find a
few places where GCC C++ code might throw an error, and vice-versa.?
Arv
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No disrespect intended, but you do get paid for what you do.? This is a hobby, so in the words of Clint E. “Go ahead, fix my code…”.? ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Timm
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] compiling ubitx ver 4.3 ? As a professional software developer I'm required to deliver code that has no errors and no warnings.? I don't understand why people don't hold themselves to the same standard when releasing software for hobbyist use.? And please don't tell me that it's not worth the time, my response to that is that is indeed worth the time because of the questions it raises when people try to use your code.
73
K5KDT
Kevin
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Re: compiling ubitx ver 4.3
No disrespect intended, but you do get paid for what you do.? This is a hobby, so in the words of Clint E. “Go ahead, fix my code…”.? ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Timm
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] compiling ubitx ver 4.3 ? As a professional software developer I'm required to deliver code that has no errors and no warnings.? I don't understand why people don't hold themselves to the same standard when releasing software for hobbyist use.? And please don't tell me that it's not worth the time, my response to that is that is indeed worth the time because of the questions it raises when people try to use your code.
73
K5KDT
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Re: Ubitx V3 Please Help, ANTENNA Pins on PCB have SHORTED no Receive
#ubitx
#ubitx-help
Hi Fabian,
I must have missed your new question. Will you repeat it?
73,
Bill KU8H
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On 08/29/2018 02:28 PM, sdr freak wrote: Hello again :-)
Sorry for asking again,.. But are there no answer for the new message
that i wrote?
I am happy for read some new help, so we can work together for the ubitx
and i'm hope it works at on day..
Are there any Ideas? What should I do next? Where are things to check
for the receiving to optimize?
Best regards Fabian
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Re: compiling ubitx ver 4.3
As a professional software developer I'm required to deliver code that has no errors and no warnings.? I don't understand why people don't hold themselves to the same standard when releasing software for hobbyist use.? And please don't tell me that it's not worth the time, my response to that is that is indeed worth the time because of the questions it raises when people try to use your code.
73
K5KDT
Kevin
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Re: Ubitx V3 Please Help, ANTENNA Pins on PCB have SHORTED no Receive
#ubitx
#ubitx-help
Hello again :-)?
Sorry for asking again,.. But are there no answer for the new message that i wrote??
I am happy for read some new help, so we can work together for the ubitx and i'm hope it works at on day..
Are there any Ideas? What should I do next? Where are things to check for the receiving to optimize?
Best regards Fabian
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Re: Nextion 3.2 for CEC 1.097
#ubitx
? Art..thanks!? I had tried reducing the grid? by a few pixels but that didn’t help.? However reducing it by almost a half did the trick.? It does compile and I’ve successfully loaded it onto my 3.5 display.? There are some bugs in at least one of? the pages, but it appears to be close to a workable product.? Thanks again to Nikos and you… ? 73 John ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Art Olson Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 10:00 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [BITX20] Nextion 3.2 for CEC 1.097 #ubitx ? John Welcome to learning - hi hi I am stumbling through also If you reduce the grid size on that page say by half for x and y it will compile. I don’t remember the I’d number but it appears in the upper left corner in the grid. Select it an the attribute page will come up. Go to the bottom and change the h and w values Lots of other things need fixing but am encouraged others are working this also.? Art N2AJO?
On Aug 29, 2018, at 12:30 PM, John Lauber <jlauber@...> wrote:
Hi, Nikos—thank you.? Did you try to compile this?? I’ve tried it and get the following output: ? Global Memory:1496 Total size of picture:2,483,702 Total size of font:033,225 Page:px Memory Occupied:1496+1140=2636 Page:pm Memory Occupied:1496+244=1740 Page:pf Memory Occupied:1496+764=2260 Page:pc Memory Occupied:1496+504=2000 Error: Page:padc Error! Memory overflow:1496+2848=4344 Error: Compile failed! 1 Errors, 0 Warnings, ? Looking at page padc, I can’t see what the problem is.? I tried reducing the size of the waveform by a few pixels, and that didn’t help.? I’m really stumbling my way through this Nextion editor, so am operating largely in the blind!? Any ideas? ? 73 WI6P John ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of SV9CVJ Nikos
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 07:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Nextion 3.2 for CEC 1.097 #ubitx ? Hi John
I tried to do something on editor but I'm not sure about the result , pages 3,4,7,8,9,10 .
Nikos
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I would say LPF for 60-30-17-10meters bands and eventually 160m if you would like to use this band too (I think it could transmit as well on 160m)
Il 29/ago/2018 18:30, "Brent Seres" < brentseres1@...> ha scritto: So if I buy LPFs from Hans, which bands would you recommend? Given that the even harmonics are fairly well attenuated, I'm assuming I could use 1 LPF for 2 bands (ie 40/ 30, 20/17)?? Given the current solar flux disaster,? I probably have several years to solve 15, 12 and 10. Alternately, the BPFs for each band.? I'm not ready to give up yet!
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Re: compiling ubitx ver 4.3
In general no. ? Compilers generate warnings when you haven’t use the brightest code. ??
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when i compile ver 4.3 i get a number of warnings although the compile appears to work it says compile done
the warnings seem to be about conversions fro char literal to char
is thsi a problem
terry gm4dso
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when i compile ver 4.3 i get a number of warnings although the compile appears to work it says compile done
the warnings seem to be about conversions fro char literal to char
is thsi a problem
terry gm4dso
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I haven’t even build my uBitx yet. Maybe in the winter. Where can I have a look at these LPF’s from Hans. It’s not a killer for me. I’m sure I can still have fun with the radio, it will definitely be a digital mode radio for FT8 for sure so as long as it has a few uses, I’ll be fine. I’m not looking for perfection.?
Joe KD2NFC?
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On Aug 29, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Brent Seres < brentseres1@...> wrote: So if I buy LPFs from Hans, which bands would you recommend? Given that the even harmonics are fairly well attenuated, I'm assuming I could use 1 LPF for 2 bands (ie 40/ 30, 20/17)?? Given the current solar flux disaster,? I probably have several years to solve 15, 12 and 10. Alternately, the BPFs for each band.? I'm not ready to give up yet!
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Re: UBITX V3 TX GAIN VARIATIONS
Jim,
Try this input to q90 Isolate the other stuff from loading the input to the amp,
output at T11 before the filters (cut trace).??
Doing that requires tracking generator but yyou can sweep it by hand?
using a any RF generator (measure direct then measure through).
Run that at 3db/division to see the droop is power and gain.? When I've done
that on many samples they all sag about 10-12db from 3-30mhz.? Its not the
IRF510 its all in the stages before it.? The IRF510 can be flat but in that
design it also sags about 2-3db because, long leads, transformers not
optimum, board layout.
Allison
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Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?
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MadRadioModder
sdr freak
Alan de G1FXB
Brent Seres/ VE3CUS