Re: Do not run this on the zbitx
Thanks. I'll give it a try and see what happens?
Leo, AI5II
Leo,
Get the latest wiringpi from github. It works. I have installed the zbitx from souce as instructed in install.txt file. I used an earlier version and the wiringpi gave runtime error.
Hope it helps. I have not tested complete zbitx functions as I do not have full hardware.
73s
VU2SPF
Bhatnagar
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Re: zbitx - No Tx on WSJTX?
Still not working?
Can change band using wsjt-x.
Test CAT does nothing.
Pressing Tune causes the zbitx to reboot?
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Leo, AI5II
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Re: Do not run this on the zbitx
Leo,
Get the latest wiringpi from github. It works. I have installed the zbitx from souce as instructed in install.txt file. I used an earlier version and the wiringpi gave runtime error.
Hope it helps. I have not tested complete zbitx functions as I do not have full hardware.
73s
VU2SPF
Bhatnagar
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The week ended ... my zbitx order, paid for in Dec 2024, is still ;
" Your Order #3481 Current status : Awaiting processing " .
I'm hoping that the sales @ Hamvention will not proceed before receiving my order....
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 06:56 AM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
The shipping of the new orders is next month. We will clear the batch 1 first. This week.
My order 3414, is also in Awaiting Processing status
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Re: Tariffs and zBitx Shipments
#zbitx
Hasn't the White House ended the de minimus clause/exception:
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Let's see what happens.
Mike N2MS
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On 04/06/2025 10:50 AM EDT Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:
Ashhar,
Thanks for that explanation - yes, the components and subassemblies in the zBitx are subject to numerous tariffs, but those tariffs are 'baked into' the price of the device offered by HF Signals. A zBitx (for example) imported into the US from India is not subject to any of US tariffs in the news today because of the de minimus clause/exception, since they are shipped individually, but as you describe the various components as they work their way from the factory to you (HF Signals) are subject numerous tariffs as they cross international borders.
As has been discussed previously in this forum, other countries treat the importation of HF Signals products differently, sometimes imposing tariffs or other fees on the imported devices, but that is not, and to the best of my knowledge will not, be the case in the US because of the de minimus clause/exception.
Ken, N2VIP
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So many believe that CW decoders are their answers. They're not!? I've been doing morse since 1970 and have seen and played with a few decoders. No matter how well they work they can't help the operator who is sending the code who run their letters together bad spacing etc or likely deal with the static crashes signal fading. That said the decoder on my SBITX is par and I like when it doesn't know it puts the .... or the ----- in so you can guess. If you want to give it a fair chance tune in W1AW code practice since it is computer generated its spacing and speed spelling are all spot on. Plus the transmitt on several? bands so you can always find a strong one.
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Patrick?
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Re: Tariffs and zBitx Shipments
#zbitx
Wouldn't it be better if the device was declared at customs as educational subassemblies? In principle, there is nothing wrong with it, we don't make a profit, we don't resell and by the nature of the product the device can be continuously improved.
Possibly even a disassembled product. Surely radio amateurs can assemble a housing...
On this principle, for lower customs duties, many industrial assemblers receive televisions.
Just an opinion...
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Fox
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Re: Tariffs and zBitx Shipments
#zbitx
Andy,
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The difference is I'm talking about what *is*, and you are talking about what *could happen*, what *may happen*, and how it does effect items other than those sold/shipped by HF Signals (like batteries from China)...
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It would have been helpful if you described the scope of your comment, described how it doesn't actually relate to anything sold by HF Signals, which is the focus of this group.
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Thanks,
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Ken, N2VIP
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Re: Tariffs and zBitx Shipments
#zbitx
Ken, I didn't bother posting other text as the focus is in the URL.
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Note that it was removed because it was determined the systems are in place to collect the tax.? It takes a stroke of the pen to expand the exception.? Anyone that has added tariffs to islands populated only by seals and penguins is already coloring well outside the lines.
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While it might not directly impact the radio itself yet, it likely will impact folks buying LiCo cells and chargers, and other accessories used when operating and upgrading our radios.
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73, Andy
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On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 08:23 AM, Ken N2VIP wrote:
You should have included the very first paragraph of the Whitehouse fact sheet - It clearly states that the de minimus exception is indeed gone as relates to China, and only China:
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CLOSING LOOPHOLES IN THE TARIFF SYSTEM:Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order eliminating duty-free?de minimis?treatment for low-value imports from China, a critical step in countering the ongoing health emergency posed by the illicit flow of synthetic opioids into the U.S.
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Source:?
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I believe all of HF Signals products are assembled in India, and while the components inside their products most certainly come from China, they are not subject to U.S. import tariffs having passed thru India.
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Ken, N2VIP
On Apr 6, 2025, at 00:52, AndyH via groups.io <awhecker@...> wrote:
De minimis is gone.
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- All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the?de minimis?exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025). This is in lieu of any other duties, including those imposed by prior Orders."
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A technical term from a lifetime in uniform rears it's ugly head yet again: BOHICA.
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 05:33 PM, Andrew wrote:
Tariffs are kind of a moving target but your radio shouldn't be affected due to the de minimis exception.
Awaiting my new toy, but wondering what, if any, impact the new tariffs announced by the US will have on shipments to the US.?
AC9KQ
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Re: Tariffs and zBitx Shipments
#zbitx
Ashhar,
Thanks for that explanation - yes, the components and subassemblies in the zBitx are subject to numerous tariffs, but those tariffs are 'baked into' the price of the device offered by HF Signals. A zBitx (for example) imported into the US from India is not subject to any of US tariffs in the news today because of the de minimus clause/exception, since they are shipped individually, but as you describe the various components as they work their way from the factory to you (HF Signals) are subject numerous tariffs as they cross international borders.
As has been discussed previously in this forum, other countries treat the importation of HF Signals products differently, sometimes imposing tariffs or other fees on the imported devices, but that is not, and to the best of my knowledge will not, be the case in the US because of the de minimus clause/exception.
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 9:30?AM, Ashhar Farhan via groups.io <farhanbox@...> wrote:
? Sorry to extend this discussion, but does it also apply to goods that incorporate part components from China?
We get the pcbs fabricated at JLCPCB. We pay almost 60% duty (including anti dumping duty) on these as it arrives in India and then the finished product is shipped to the customers in USA and other countries.
My back of the envelope calculation is that more than 50% of the cost of zbitx is in double and triple duties.
Here is an example, consider the Si5351. It is imported into China at 20% duty, then it is soldered onto the PCB and sent to India. Indian customs duty and anti dumping duty is another 50% for imports from China. Effectively, the Si5351 in the hands ofAmerican costs 5 dollars instead of 2 dollars.
It would be much simpler of we could find a reliable pcb assembler in the USA who handles our kind of relatively lower volumes. We did try to search but never found one.
You should have included the very first paragraph of the Whitehouse fact sheet - It clearly states that the de minimus exception is indeed gone as relates to China, and only China:
CLOSING LOOPHOLES IN THE TARIFF SYSTEM:Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order eliminating duty-free?de minimis?treatment for low-value imports from China, a critical step in countering the ongoing health emergency posed by the illicit flow of synthetic opioids into the U.S.
Source:?
I believe all of HF Signals products are assembled in India, and while the components inside their products most certainly come from China, they are not subject to U.S. import tariffs having passed thru India.
Ken, N2VIP ? De minimis is gone.
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- All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the?de minimis?exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025). This is in lieu of any other duties, including those imposed by prior Orders."
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A technical term from a lifetime in uniform rears it's ugly head yet again: BOHICA.
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 05:33 PM, Andrew wrote:
Tariffs are kind of a moving target but your radio shouldn't be affected due to the de minimis exception.
Awaiting my new toy, but wondering what, if any, impact the new tariffs announced by the US will have on shipments to the US.?
AC9KQ
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Aaron,
I think you are confusing the new zBitx with the yet-unannounced suit x 4, which HF Signals has not, as far as I am aware, not even announced specific plans for, let alone discussed a possible release date.
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 7:29?AM, Aaron via groups.io <w4aan@...> wrote:
? The last word from HF Signals was supposed to be by the end of last month, who knows. I'm planning to purchase one also.?
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Aaron W4AAN?
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Re: Tariffs and zBitx Shipments
#zbitx
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On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 10:30?AM Ashhar Farhan via <farhanbox= [email protected]> wrote: Sorry to extend this discussion, but does it also apply to goods that incorporate part components from China?
We get the pcbs fabricated at JLCPCB. We pay almost 60% duty (including anti dumping duty) on these as it arrives in India and then the finished product is shipped to the customers in USA and other countries.
My back of the envelope calculation is that more than 50% of the cost of zbitx is in double and triple duties.
Here is an example, consider the Si5351. It is imported into China at 20% duty, then it is soldered onto the PCB and sent to India. Indian customs duty and anti dumping duty is another 50% for imports from China. Effectively, the Si5351 in the hands ofAmerican costs 5 dollars instead of 2 dollars.
It would be much simpler of we could find a reliable pcb assembler in the USA who handles our kind of relatively lower volumes. We did try to search but never found one.
You should have included the very first paragraph of the Whitehouse fact sheet - It clearly states that the de minimus exception is indeed gone as relates to China, and only China:
CLOSING LOOPHOLES IN THE TARIFF SYSTEM:Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order eliminating duty-free?de minimis?treatment for low-value imports from China, a critical step in countering the ongoing health emergency posed by the illicit flow of synthetic opioids into the U.S.
Source:?
I believe all of HF Signals products are assembled in India, and while the components inside their products most certainly come from China, they are not subject to U.S. import tariffs having passed thru India.
Ken, N2VIP ? De minimis is gone.
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- All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the?de minimis?exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025). This is in lieu of any other duties, including those imposed by prior Orders."
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A technical term from a lifetime in uniform rears it's ugly head yet again: BOHICA.
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 05:33 PM, Andrew wrote:
Tariffs are kind of a moving target but your radio shouldn't be affected due to the de minimis exception.
Awaiting my new toy, but wondering what, if any, impact the new tariffs announced by the US will have on shipments to the US.?
AC9KQ
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Re: Tariffs and zBitx Shipments
#zbitx
Sorry to extend this discussion, but does it also apply to goods that incorporate part components from China?
We get the pcbs fabricated at JLCPCB. We pay almost 60% duty (including anti dumping duty) on these as it arrives in India and then the finished product is shipped to the customers in USA and other countries.
My back of the envelope calculation is that more than 50% of the cost of zbitx is in double and triple duties.
Here is an example, consider the Si5351. It is imported into China at 20% duty, then it is soldered onto the PCB and sent to India. Indian customs duty and anti dumping duty is another 50% for imports from China. Effectively, the Si5351 in the hands ofAmerican costs 5 dollars instead of 2 dollars.
It would be much simpler of we could find a reliable pcb assembler in the USA who handles our kind of relatively lower volumes. We did try to search but never found one.
You should have included the very first paragraph of the Whitehouse fact sheet - It clearly states that the de minimus exception is indeed gone as relates to China, and only China:
CLOSING LOOPHOLES IN THE TARIFF SYSTEM:Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order eliminating duty-free?de minimis?treatment for low-value imports from China, a critical step in countering the ongoing health emergency posed by the illicit flow of synthetic opioids into the U.S.
Source:?
I believe all of HF Signals products are assembled in India, and while the components inside their products most certainly come from China, they are not subject to U.S. import tariffs having passed thru India.
Ken, N2VIP ? De minimis is gone.
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- All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the?de minimis?exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025). This is in lieu of any other duties, including those imposed by prior Orders."
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A technical term from a lifetime in uniform rears it's ugly head yet again: BOHICA.
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 05:33 PM, Andrew wrote:
Tariffs are kind of a moving target but your radio shouldn't be affected due to the de minimis exception.
Awaiting my new toy, but wondering what, if any, impact the new tariffs announced by the US will have on shipments to the US.?
AC9KQ
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Re: zBitx firmware update using Macbook/Raspbian
Worked fine on my MacBook Pro but the provided round adapter ?mini USB to OTG didn’t work. It may be your issue. I ordered a cable from Amazon.
?Below is the link- it works even though it doesn’t look like a link
Pete WK8S?
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Do not run this on the zbitx
Because I was bored, I thought about upgrading buster to bullseye just to see what would happen.
Do not run this RPI-UPDATE.
This program updates the rpi firmware and breaks the sbitx software. It changes WiringPi and doing a rebuild does not reset it. Also running the sbitx/update does not help. I had to replace the sdcard with a backup to get the radio working again.
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Leo, AI5II
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I forgot to add that the line is there with power supply or on battery.
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73, Dean/ N2TNN
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So, just recently I have noticed a carrier line which is very annoying. See on the photo my frequency is 14.044 and there is a constant noise line on 14.045. It is always there on every frequency and every band. I can diminish the sound by turning the IF down near 40. The line also follows any RIT movement. 
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Re: Tariffs and zBitx Shipments
#zbitx
You should have included the very first paragraph of the Whitehouse fact sheet - It clearly states that the de minimus exception is indeed gone as relates to China, and only China:
CLOSING LOOPHOLES IN THE TARIFF SYSTEM:Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order eliminating duty-free?de minimis?treatment for low-value imports from China, a critical step in countering the ongoing health emergency posed by the illicit flow of synthetic opioids into the U.S.
Source:?
I believe all of HF Signals products are assembled in India, and while the components inside their products most certainly come from China, they are not subject to U.S. import tariffs having passed thru India.
Ken, N2VIP On Apr 6, 2025, at 00:52, AndyH via groups.io <awhecker@...> wrote:
? De minimis is gone.
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"
- All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the?de minimis?exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025). This is in lieu of any other duties, including those imposed by prior Orders."
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A technical term from a lifetime in uniform rears it's ugly head yet again: BOHICA.
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 05:33 PM, Andrew wrote:
Tariffs are kind of a moving target but your radio shouldn't be affected due to the de minimis exception.
Awaiting my new toy, but wondering what, if any, impact the new tariffs announced by the US will have on shipments to the US.?
AC9KQ
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That (every 4 ticks) would probably work - but only if you make the qsk delay high enough.
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That delay stops the waterfall/decoder display from updating, and that seems to be taking a bit more time than the current loop allows, one tick is not 1ms, but a bit over 2.
I think it would be fine to do the screen updates less frequently even when receiving, I like a slower waterfall, but that's one of the tradeoffs that I'm sure Farhan has considered and will fine tune.
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Erik
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Re: Tariffs and zBitx Shipments
#zbitx
If Trump is serious he will enforce the Rules of Origin that will tariff goods shipped to an entity in the US that does not perform "substantial transformation" of the product. Otherwise everyone could just rent an office in Delaware for a paper transshipment company and claim their products are made in the USA.
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In the past suppliers like DigiKey broke out tariff cost as a line item in the invoice so customers could see the actual costs. Others may choose to do that rather than raise prices and take the blame for the cost increase. This seems to be the route that Europeans take with their VAT.
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If a tariff applies to a product that we in the US buy, we get hit with a double whammy. Not only the tariff itself, but the carrier, like DHL, charges a fee for handling the paperwork. I experienced that when buying a telescope from Germany years ago that was over the De Minimis.
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??? Bob? KD8CGH
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SP Bhatnagar
PeteWK8S
Bob Benedict, KD8CGH