TLDR - a lot about setting the bias of a MOSFET amplifier by examining the 3rd order intermodulation distortion products.? If not interested move along quietly :)

The prior posts left me many questions that were difficult for me to answer.? I dont have an electrical engineering background so much of this was opaque to me, betginning with the definition of a class AB amplifier.? It sounds simple - class A conducts for all 360 degrees of the waveform and class B conducts for exactly 180 degrees of the waveform.? Class AB is in between - but where in between?? ?That means anwhere from conducting nearly class B to nearly class A 181 degrees to 359 degrees.? ?Using an osicilloscope to view the input and output waveforms it looks like this:



The blue trace is the input to the RD006 and the yellow trace is the output.? And if you increase the bias you can see the shape of the output waveform move closer and closer to class A.? Anywhere in between would be considered class AB.? ?But this view tells you nothing about IMD.? To do that you need to measure IMD using a spectrum analyzer.? And the gurus tell you to "minimize IMD"? but that was confusig to me as well because there are two variables you control, bias and drive.? At any particular bias as drive increases the third order intermodulation products increase by 3 dB.? So then question is "at what drive level should you measure IMD?"

I asked the question of multiple folks I know including some very experienced EEs and none could give me a satisfying answer.? The EMRFD bible didn't provide the answer either nor did any of the various QST and QEX articles I poured over.? ?I finally found a good reference, a 1993 ?NXP / Motorola Engineering Bulletin that explains how to properly measurer IMD -

The technique I used is Method 2 on page 3 of the engineering bullentin.? The steps are essentially these:

1. Chosose an initial bias using parameters from the data sheet
2. Vary the drive to find the 1dB compression point of the amplifier
3. For the two tone test set the drive level 6db below the 1dB compression point
4. I used the TinySA Ultra to measure the 3rd order intermodulation distortion product
5. Vary the bias until the 3rd order products are 25-30dB below the fundamentals

That turned out to be at around 250mA.? ?You can see what it loooks like on the TinySA Ultra in post above.? For those looking closely - just look at the delta between the fundamental signals and the distortion products and ignore the OIP3 number - I did not tell the TinySA how much attenuation I was using so the calculation is off.

That still begs the question of my earlier post - why do the examples on the RD06 data sheet show a bias of 500mA and claim 10 watts out at 30MHz?? The best answer I have is "marketing" - the test circuit on the data sheet is not broadband - it is a tuned circuit for exactly 30MHz using microstrip and very specific components to acheive the claimed output.? A broadband amplifier using toroidal transformers on a Manhattan board will never see that kind of performance.

I hope this is helpful to some as a reference.? And if I have made any incorrect statements I hope someone more knowledgeable than I can correct and amend as necessary.

73,
Dean
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You can only execute this command if you have previously installed the app as a git clone. I mean this:
git clone https://github.com/SigmazGFX/FreeDV_PTT
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Gyula HA3HZ



Since I don't have a USB device, the answer is:

Hey Gang..
Because this release was being packaged up as I was still finishing a few things, There is 'minor' update waiting in the repo for the FreeDV_PTT application.
One thing that will come along with this update is an upgrade.sh script that will make it easy to stay up to date with releases of this application.?

For just this one time we will need to manually pull the updated .deb file and invoke the update.

cd? ~\freedv_ptt
git pull
sudo dpkg -i freedv_ptt.deb

...and that should do it.
You'll now see an update.sh file in the freedv_ptt folder. any future upgrades will be done with ./update.sh

Easy peasy and thank you.
de W2JON

Is this command only for FreeDV?

Joe:

The power output of mine was OK for about 20 minutes, then dropped to zero. Repositioning the radio on its back suddenly restored a few watts of power out, suggesting a bad solder connection or fractured SMD

I have seen various reports of problems similar to what you report, discovered early in factory-made units. ?Some who have reported low power out have replaced SMDs (resistors apparently) in the driver section, leading me to believe thermal expansion of the board compromises a connection or a component. The problem with these reports is that they usually don't offer a diagnosis, so we don't know what the original problem was. ?Just the act of re-soldering a bad joint might have been the real fix. You could also have a bad MOSFET. ?You'd lose half of the push-pull output. ?Or, it could be the drive pot has failed. ?Or a transistor in the driver. Or a software/RiPi issue. Unfortunately, lots of things could lead to your symptom.

If it's a new unit, you shouldn't need to be repairing it.

My advice would be to contact the makers. This forum has a few similar reports of low output power, and I'm hearing of others. ?If there's a quality control issue in manufacture, I think they should know of it so it (and your radio) can be fixed. ?

Jim
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