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Very good info and I'll give "ScreenOff" a try. I've been looking for
something like that.

One correction though. The power button doesn't suspend APRSISCE (at
least on my Tilt). It DOES shut off the GPS. I do this routinely when
I walk inside a building. The APRS-IS incoming stream continues to
operate as I've received APRS-IS messages after turning off the phone.
I know that beaconing stops because the GPS no longer reports a fix.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Kevin Jensen wrote:

Okay did further testing to find a way to run APRSISCE continuous, on
battery power only, and found:

1) Never, never, never hit the power button on your cellphone to
blank the screen. Even though in theory, the phone under WM6 should
keep the applications running in the background; instead it puts all
applications in SUSPEND, thus turning off applications. This is no
good for APRSISCE, as it turns it off. Even with the S2U2
application, and APRSISCE loaded as a excepted application to S2U2,
somehow APRSISCE goes into suspend.

2) Instead, to save on battery power, install the applications
"ScreenOff", and map a button to the application. This tool will just
turn the screen off, and do nothing else. Everything else on your WM6
phone will keep working. If you want the screen back on gain hit the
power on button for your phone, and the phone comes back on. Even the
data stream keeps running while the screen is blanked with ScreenOff.

3) Also would like to recommend the WM6 application "LvmTopBat" as it
will keep a thin battery power status bar at the top of every
application. This is great for watching the battery decrease in power
while running APRSISCE.

Just tried this all on my drive to work today. The whole trip was
beaconing and it all recorded and was displayed on a APRS.FI web page.
All while the phone was on battery power only, and the screen was
turned off. No issues for the 1/2 hour drive.

the aprs.fi tool seems to do a pretty good job. just had to tweak it some.

Thanks for doing the research! Please keep us posted, I'm sure it will
interest all of us. I'm especially interested for when I go mobile
walking without my normal external charger pack to keep the phone happy
for 6-8 hours.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

n1kcg wrote:

Did some more testing of the configuration on my WM6 cellphone. Right mow am leaning towards useing the application S2U2 as a power saver and sleep tool; while using APRSISCE. The latest version of S2U2 has an exceptions list. If I put APRSISCE on the exceptions list the S2U2 will never start in, and APRSISCE keeps running regardless of battery power levels.

Of course all battery power saver startup routines are disabled at all times now. Will keep investigating.

looks like aprs.fi can do the job well. just needed to get the correct settings

Anton wrote:

Is it possible to switch units to metric system?

I'll add that one to the list. Currently it's very US-centric.

I'm also change path for cached OSM maps to storage card in xml, is it possible to make this directly in menu in next version?

That is already on the list, but I'm glad you found the .XML
configuration file and got it changed. The OSM directory currently
grows and grows without upper bound. A future version will track usage
of the cached tiles and delete ones that have not been referenced for
some configurable time period. I'm also planning to provide some
visibility to how many tiles at the various zoom levels are in the cache
and how much space they occupy.

Also is missing for me possibility for free moving on map (like google maps on wm) without restrictions on aprs station.

That is actually the top of the list, but I really need to manage the
OSM cache before I do this one. When you can drag around the map, you
can really buffer a BUNCH of OSM tiles. My phone currently has over
300MB of cached tiles (yes, mine is on the SD card also).

Aprsisce seems by great plug and play program on wm for novice and lazy nonradio aprs hams like me :) In Slovakia we have problems with only few Radio gate, therefore is only few people on aprs and aprsisce seems to be way for expansion aprs in Slovakia... I play little bit also with aprsce / AGW CE and aprsisce is very easy for setting and using for me.

Thanks for the compliments. I'm striving to keep it simple to use, yet
powerful enough to cover anything most people would want to do.

Sorry for my English, i don't have problem with reading, but with writing something :)

The goal of any language is communication and you have succeeded in
doing that. Thank you for the response and the suggestions!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

Is it possible to switch units to metric system?
I'm also change path for cached OSM maps to storage card in xml, is it possible to make this directly in menu in next version?
Also is missing for me possibility for free moving on map (like google maps on wm) without restrictions on aprs station.

Aprsisce seems by great plug and play program on wm for novice and lazy nonradio aprs hams like me :) In Slovakia we have problems with only few Radio gate, therefore is only few people on aprs and aprsisce seems to be way for expansion aprs in Slovakia... I play little bit also with aprsce / AGW CE and aprsisce is very easy for setting and using for me.

Sorry for my English, i don't have problem with reading, but with writing something :)

I'm not sure what sort of tool you are wanting? I use aprs.fi when I
want to look at my track. Or are you looking for something to genera a
static image of a range of time? Something like the stuff you'll find at

(yes,
that's a * dot png)



(zoom in and scroll around to see the details)

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

n1kcg wrote:

This one's pretty neat showing our drive to Miami from home...



Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

n1kcg wrote:

Here is a breadcrumb tool to see the point beaconed while you drive. all printed on a map.



But is there something that is better for a tool?

Just some tips on how to run Winodws Mobile and to keep the APRSISCE application running continuous.

1) Turn off power save mode when plugged in. Typically you would have your cellphone plugged into a power outlet in the car to keep the application running, so why not just turn off any power save mode.

2) Turn off the AUTOMATIC LOCK tool in Windows Mobile. The locking tool seems to also deactivate any application running.

3) Turn off the AUTOMATIC SCREEN DIMMING tool. It also seems to deactivate any application running. Make sure you do not turn the screen off, as that puts applications in suspend.

I will be doing more testing with a screen blanker, and seeing how long the power can last with the APRSISCE running continuous.

Someone inquired about my KJ4ERJ-AP callsign, so I thought I'd give you all a list of the -SSIDs I use, just in case you ever receive a message from one of them. Rest assured, ALL KJ4ERJ-xx are really me (in one shape or form). (Yes, this is THE Lynn as I've been referred to recently by two completely independent people). (And no, I don't have an ego as large as Richard Heene. I'm just trying to further APRS by providing a new, update-able, APRS-IS client application.)

KJ4ERJ - My original IGate, now used for testing and comparing the receive abilities of various TNC/Radio combinations vs my primary IGate. This is actually a javAPRSsrv IGate callsign related to -5 and whatever TNC I hook it up to.

KJ4ERJ-1 - Don't remember what I used this one for, but it's been idle for 9 months

KJ4ERJ-2 - My primary javAPRSsrv IGate software (related to -6 & -7)

KJ4ERJ-5 - APRS-IS access callsign for my original IGate KJ4ERJ (w/o SSID)

KJ4ERJ-6 - APRS-IS access callsign for my primary IGate KJ4ERJ-2 (and -7)

KJ4ERJ-7 - TinyTrak4/Icom IC-T22A (HT) on a copper cactus at 20' as my primary IGate

KJ4ERJ-8 - Kenwood D7 mobile HT in my car on a 1/4 wave Hershey Kiss antenna (on loan from AI4GK)

KJ4ERJ-9 - Alinco DR-135/T2-135/Nuvi350 in my car on a 5/8 wave dual bander

KJ4ERJ-10 - UI-View software on my laptop. Interfaces via -IS normally, but may go mobile via some TNC in the future.

KJ4ERJ-12 - APRSISCE for Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt phone. This is nearly always on, and nearly always with me.

KJ4ERJ-14 - Formerly an Alinco DR-135/T2-135/Nuvi350 in wife's van. This is now KJ4OVQ-9 now that she is licensed!

KJ4ERJ-15 - Unfiltered feed APRS-IS monitor instance of APRSIS32 (a soon-to-be-released APRSISCE for Windows)

KJ4ERJ-3 - I don't think I've used this one yet!
KJ4ERJ-4 - Ditto on the not-used-yet
KJ4ERJ-11 - Haven't used this one yet
KJ4ERJ-13 - Nope, haven't used it either

That's the end of the RF-legal SSIDs. The following -SSIDs are used for exclusively APRS-IS Internet access:

KJ4ERJ-AP - APRSIS32 testing instance monitoring APRSISCE for Windows Mobile users via u/APWM* filter. I watch the behavior of various tracks to validate (or invalidate) features of the client as you all move around. It's easier (especially in the latest version with the Message option in the station popup menu) to send you a message from this one.

KJ4ERJ-BK - Originally an APRSIS32 monitoring an APRS-tracked bike ride in the Pacific NorthWest, but re-purposed to monitoring Planet Earth for posted Earthquakes and Hurricanes (I DO live in Florida, after all). I do this with a filter of s/@/@Q and a configured lat/lon just off of 0/0.

KJ4ERJ-SA - An APRS-IS Satellite monitor using APRSIS32 via a filter of s/S/S and also a configured lat/lon just off of 0/0.

KJ4ERJ-?? - There's another -SSID I've used for Xastir running in a VM, but I really don't remember which one it was/is and I haven't re-installed VmWare on my laptop since upgrading it to Windows 7 RTM.

Ok, so you're wondering when you can get a copy of APRSIS32 for Windows? I need to implement a way to configure your lat/lon without manually editing the XML configuration file. I'd also like to figure out a way to allow multiple windows (with custom filters) from a single APRSIS32 instance with a single APRS-IS connection running the merged filters of all window instances. Right now, I run my own local javAPRSsrvr server with a single full feed from which I filter the various feeds for my APRSIS32 instances. This works for me, but I really want a better way to handle multiple views with a single feed.

For those of you familiar with UI-View's "local server", that's what I'm shooting for within APRSIS32, but with an automatic filter built from the various views. Consider the power of this with the new "center on" function of APRSISCE and you'll see where I'm headed! I've even considered a full-screen version that moves the circles around and overlaps/merges them as centered stations get close enough provided the circles are running a shared zoom. That's way-out-there, blue-sky thinking at the moment though.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

PS. On a loosely-related project note, you can see the recent RF APRS traffic rates to my IGate at:



or



PPS. If you've made it this far, please reply back with your top two or three requests for the next release of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile. The top one on my list is to be able to drag the map around on the screen without hopping from station to station using the Center option. I'm hoping for a hold/drag/release interaction to move the map.

I am wondering if there is a way to keep the application active even in battery saver mode... There are some apps that seem to run regardless (Bing, Google Maps, ActiveSync, etc. I would be very interested if there is a way to "mark" the app as always active. I will do some looking through my development stuff on this as well.

73,

Pete AE5PL

--- In aprsisce@..., "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:

Here's what's new in APRSISCE6P091016.zip

20) Sending an APRS message that starts with ? will suppress the request
for an ack. This seems to be necessary to talk to some servers. If you
need an ack on a ? message (like sending ? to CQSERV), enter it as
<space>? and the ack will be requested.

As you probably know, an unnumbered message that starts with a ? is considered a directed query (see the Queries section of the APRS spec). A numbered message's text is not mapped to anything within the spec.

You might have a separate Query entry (could allow generic queries as well although those are blocked on APRS-IS due to the sheer volume of responses) instead of melding them into your message form. Part of the reason for separate is because people tend to look for a response but many queries result in posits or status packets being sent which won't show up in a message window. Just a thought.

73,

Pete AE5PL

Lynn - thanks for a great application. I am looking for some kind of utility that would wake up the phone from battery saver mode, to allow a beacon of my position.

since phones naturally want to go to battery save mode, there must be some application that will bring my data connection up, activate aprsisce and then put the phone back to sleep. maybe once every five, ten or twenty minutes; assuming i am on battery power,and assuming i have a data connection.

alternatively, wondering if the aprs protocol would allow a mobile station to record its position versus time; and then upload the data when a data connection is re-established. does aprs protocol allow that?

Here's what's new in APRSISCE6P091016.zip

1) The Tile prefetcher now has a better timeout. I also run two concurrent threads (on the Windows Mobile platform) so the tiles fetch a bit faster.

2) Bad tile files are now removed from the device when they are detected. Still to come is a tile ager and purger.

3) On larger screen devices, Icons will now grow to double size for better clarity (complements Noel W8TVI)

4) The circle stations redraw has been optimized, especially if a flood of packets arrives in a short span of time.

5) You can now center the screen on an arbitrary station. Just select Center from a station's popup menu. Double-clicking on the heading rectangle offers to center back on you. If the station you're centered on moves, the map moves to keep it centered. If the centered station ages out and is replaced, the center will automatically move back to you.

6) Both the OpenStreetMap fetcher and the APRS-IS server connection cache the most recently resolved DNS name for faster connects.

7) Messages sent with acks requested are now buffered until the ack is received. The message rectangle turns yellow while there are ack-pending messages. Access them for retry or cancel via Menu/Messages/Pending Messages (disabled when none are pending). When expected acks are received, the Ack popup is suppressed. Only unexpected or duplicate Acks will generate a popup.

8) Battery voltage telemetry is now disablable (requested by Jason, K2ENG). Battery voltage is still monitored and displayed in the slider.

9) Other stations running APRSISCE are highlighted in pale yellow on the scrolling stations list. You can request seeing others by adding u/APWM* to your filter text. (That's how some of you get messages from me seemingly out of the blue!)

10) Changed overlay symbol text color on Number Diamonds (Digi and HF Gateway).

11) Optimized redrawing to decrease system load when lots of station updates come in quickly. This is really important when you monitor a large radius or a busy area. (This may slow updates down to 2 per second, but that seems fast enough).

12) Increased cached fonts and support BOLD display of symbol overlays.

13) Reversed Reply and Dismiss when messages are received to match the Dismiss placement of Windows Mobile appointment reminders.

14) Tracks are now attached to their generating station even when zooming way out (they used to detach if you zoom out too far).

15) Zooming out to extreme zoom now sticks the stations where they belong. You can now zoom out to an entire world view (not that the phone platform can handle seeing all of that, but it's pretty neat when watching all APRSISCE users!)

16) When centering on another station, APRSISCE automatically adds a friend filter using the configured radius around them. This can cause more stations and map sections to be active, also benefiting from being able to zoom further out. The original filter is restored when you move yourself back to the center.

17) The configuration dialog now supports setting your symbol! Just click on the symbol below the Genius(tm) button. Select your table (Primary, Alternate, or Overlay) and then spin the spinner(s) and watch the symbol and name change. Remember that not all clients support overlays on all symbols! (Most recently requested by Jason, K2ENG).

18) Overlays are now drawn MUCH more clearly on symbols of various sizes. Play with them in the Configuration Dialog and see them in the circle and in the scrolling station list.

19) The FIRST transmission now includes the satelite counts like GotFix always has.

20) Sending an APRS message that starts with ? will suppress the request for an ack. This seems to be necessary to talk to some servers. If you need an ack on a ? message (like sending ? to CQSERV), enter it as <space>? and the ack will be requested.

21) If centering on another station, other station Information popups will show Rel: nnnmi XXX as in distance and bearing from the center. If you are centered, it still displays Pos: nnnmi XXX as the distance and bearing from YOU.

22) The Spd: nnnmph is now actually displaying miles per hour rather than knots as it has been doing until now.

23) Clicking on a station in either the station list or the circle will now present a popup menu of the station ID(s) with a cascade that will offer Info, Center, Lookup, and sometimes Message.
Info gets you the old information popup about the station.
Center will move that station to the center of the screen (indicated with a checkmark if you pop it up again).
Lookup will send that station's callsign (sans -SSID) to WHO-IS via APRS messaging.
Message is only offered if the station indicates messaging capability.

24) Icons in the station list are larger than they were. I think they're more clear, but they do touch and overlap somewhat. Let me know what you think.

25) Tracks now include dots where transmissions occured, but only for the station currently in the center of the screen. If dots overlap (for instance when zoomed out), some will be suppressed.

26) All track points are drawn for the center station. Other stations only display the most recent N points of their recorded track. Centering on a station will display the full track with dots on the most recent points.

27) The message rectangle no longer scales the color. It is Green when there is an incoming message pending, Yellow when there are outbound messages awaiting acks, and Orange/Red when both inbound and outbound messages are queued. It also now says "No Msg" rather than "N/A" when there are no pending incoming messages.

28) The pending tile fetch queue is flushed if you zoom in and out and move around a bunch before it catchs up. If you go back to a previous area, it will requeue the tiles.

29) Clear Tracks (and double-click the Odometer) now prompts for clearing other stations' tracks separately from your own.

30) When selecting Menu/Messages/Pending Messages, you will get a popup of the target stations. Selecting one will bring up that pending message and offer to Abort, Retry, or Ignore (keep).

31) Support Item-In-Message display! See - Basically, if you send item-position-formatted text to APRSISCE as a message, the object will be displayed. Consider the following geocaches:
)GC1TX0D!2800.38N/08039.03W.Turtle House D1.5T2.0
)GC1RDVK!2805.13N/08036.32W.Hero Cache D1.5 T2.0
)GC1EK82!2805.02N/08037.10W.Parking Fee D1.5 T1.0
)GC1R0N6!2804.98N/08037.34W.STP #43 D1.5 T1.5
)GC1QWQ7!2804.80N/08037.28W.Straw-post D3.5 T2.5
)GC14TRT!2800.54N/08035.45W.But I can still see the CAR! D2.5 T2.5
)GC14YPT!2800.61N/08035.54W.No Pooh Sticks Here! D3 T3
)GC14YPT2!2800.56N/08035.62W.Pooh Sticks FINAL
)GC14N1Y!2800.70N/08035.61W.TDJ's Quark and Riffster's Can D1.5 T2.5
)GC17K8V!2800.73N/08035.20W.Small Trails - Smaller Cache (For Now) D2.5 T3.0
)GC1JH1T!2758.51N/08039.53W.Smitty Clan Cache D2 T1.5
If you copy each line of this and send it to APRSISCE, you'll get an X (/. symbol) on the spot of the geocache! You can probably guess where THIS is going, eh? I need to support !DAO! before you have a hope of finding a cache, though. 1/100 minute just isn't close enough!

32) Begin to identify clients and handle extra and missing trailing spaces in APRS parser

33) Parse and track MessageCapable-identified clients for offering Message in station popup

34) Clean up comment text a bit

To Dos: (Incomplete)
Automatic, decaying retransmission of non-acked messages (start at 30+ seconds due to APRS-IS dupe checker)
Read message display (they disappear now once read)
Tile ager/purger - Critical now that you can center on other stations!
Parse and display Frequency object information
Parse, use, and transmit !DAO! (APRS PRECISION AND DATUM OPTION)
Support the -180/180 latitude wrap with closest display tile
Find a better icon scaling algorithm based on screen size & scale
Fix up fonts for VGA (640x480) devices (test with Noel W8TVI)
Allow configuration of location for OSMTiles cache (w/o editing XML)
Allow configuration of date/time display & GMT vs local (Dave N8PU)
Allow configurable removal of some screen elements (Satellites, John N8JJ)
Pan (Drag) screen for browsing the map
Record/Recall last DNS/IP for OSM/APRS-IS (in config file, for connecting without DNS)
Asynchronous TCP/IP connections & reading (solves hangs)
Timeout on OSM Tile fetcher (solves stalls)
Implement whatever results from the Zoom +/- Poll

Win32 client only for the following:
Simultaneously track multiple targets in separate circles
Support NMEA GPS

Extreme future:
Support KISS TNCs

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I just posted a new release, APRSISCE6P091016.zip, in the Files section of the group. Release notes will come later, but some of the highlights are:

Popup Station Menus - Click on station icon or station list for Info/Center/Lookup/Message

WHO-IS Lookup - Click on station and select "Lookup"

Center on Stations - Click on station and select "Center", Click Heading or Scale to go back home

Better Messaging - Menu/Messages/Pending Messages to retransmit (no auto-retry yet)
(No Msg will be Yellow if messages are waiting for acks)
(Ack Received no long appears, but you might see an Unexpected Ack sometimes)

Config Symbol - Menu/Configure/Click on the Symbol and spin buttons
(Yes, you don't have to be a phone any more!)
(Most recently requested by Jason, K2ENG)

Disablable Telemetry - Via Menu/Enables/Telemetry
(Requested by Jason, K2ENG)

Enjoy the new features! I know I have been while developing them!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

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