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Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

Lynn Deffenbaugh
 

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Let's take this one step at a time.?? First to answer some mis-statements that I read in various responses in this thread:

1) aprs.fi and the APRS-IS in general are NOT the place to determine if your IGate is working.? Nor are they reliable for ANY APRS RF analysis.?? Due to the APRS-IS dupe suppression, only the FIRST gated instance of any packet are propagated through the network.? If a new IGate was brought up in your vicinity that is even slightly faster than your's, none of your gated packets will show up on the APRS-IS and therefore will also not appear on aprs.fi.

2) The zoom level of the APRSIS32 display has nothing to do with what packets are gated.?? There was one statement that alluded that your range is limited based on your zoom.? While it may be true that some filters are modified by the zoom of a window, those filters only determine what packets are sent TO your client FROM the APRS-IS.?? APRSIS32 will forward ALL RF-received packets to the APRS-IS by default unless you've messed with settings.

Now, to diagnose your IGate:

1) Listen to 144.390 (or whatever your local APRS frequency is) and make sure you are at least audibly hearing packets.?? If not, check your radio and antenna.?? It is important that you do this audio test on the radio you are using for you IGate!

2) Diagnose your TNC with a terminal emulator or other suitable software (telnet?) depending on its connection to the APRSIS32 computer.?? Even in KISS mode, you should see something from the TNC whenever a packet is decoded.? If you see nothing, then check the audio connections between the TNC and your radio and/or the tuning parameters of the TNC itself.?? Or possibly the serial (or other) connection to the TNC.

3) If you pass those tests, then bring up the Port(<YourPortName>) trace log and enable? it.? Then disable and enable your RF port to see what the trace shows.? Then wait for packets to be received and see what the trace log shows.

4) Check the various IGate(*) trace logs.? Enable them and watch what they say or do not say.

5) See if any of the packets showing up in the packet scroller have an asterisk on them.?? Those indicate RF-received packets.

And finally, if you're asking for help, please include all of the details of your station!?? AB9NN-48 is a really strange -SSID for an IGate.?? What radio??? What TNC??? What connection from the TNC to the APRSIS32 computer??? What port type are you using in APRSIS32??? What changed between when it was working and when it wasn't working?? Inquiring minds need to know these things to formulate reasonable suggestions.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 4/24/2024 10:32 AM, AB9NN - Jon Kreski wrote:

What the???? My iGate which was processing nicely virtually all the APRS traffic in our rural area for many monts seemingly just stopped working.? I checked my radio, correct frequency, etc. and checked my cables.? Nothing seems wrong.? I took a quick look at the APRSIS32 screen and saw a few odd things.? One is that the bar on the left side of the screen is red.? Not sure that is right.? Also, there are two objects on the screen, both of which are me.? One is ME which I believe is AB9NN-48, my base station igate and is centered on the screen. The other is AB9NN? which is NW of center.? That is my callsign.? Why would there be two objects showing up?? I know it's not processing any APRS packets because I just drove my mobile multiple times and it always proceesses them even though there is another digipeter in the area.? That digipeater doesn't have the footprint that I do and I process 99.99% of the APRS traffic in the area when my iGate is working.

What steps should I take to resolve this?? I also did a test transmission to a repeater across Lake Michigan to ensure it wasn't the coax or the antenna and I was able to raise the repeater with an S10 signal returned.

Thanks!


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

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Judging by the messages I got back when I queried you station it looks like you've lost connection with your 857. What is the connection to that??
I'm gonna guess it's the tt4 that you mentioned in the tiny trak group. Is the yellow light flashing at all when packets are heard??

It may need power cycled. There is a known issue with the tt4 randomly locking up on bad packets but they have not been identified on what packets they are.?

My digi gate and my buddy's digi both power cycle every night and we have not noticed the lockups since we started the cycles.?




KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: AB9NN - Jon Kreski <jkreski@...>
Date: 4/24/24 10:33 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [APRSISCE] APRS iGate stopped working!

What the???? My iGate which was processing nicely virtually all the APRS traffic in our rural area for many monts seemingly just stopped working.? I checked my radio, correct frequency, etc. and checked my cables.? Nothing seems wrong.? I took a quick look at the APRSIS32 screen and saw a few odd things.? One is that the bar on the left side of the screen is red.? Not sure that is right.? Also, there are two objects on the screen, both of which are me.? One is ME which I believe is AB9NN-48, my base station igate and is centered on the screen. The other is AB9NN? which is NW of center.? That is my callsign.? Why would there be two objects showing up?? I know it's not processing any APRS packets because I just drove my mobile multiple times and it always proceesses them even though there is another digipeter in the area.? That digipeater doesn't have the footprint that I do and I process 99.99% of the APRS traffic in the area when my iGate is working.

What steps should I take to resolve this?? I also did a test transmission to a repeater across Lake Michigan to ensure it wasn't the coax or the antenna and I was able to raise the repeater with an S10 signal returned.

Thanks!


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

My apologies to the group. I do see a metric option for measurements. I selected metric and my most
zoomed in level went from feet(') to meters(m). Not my day!

I'll slink back into the corner now.


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

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Rob, I interpreted the OP’s image at miles, I don’t see a metric notation anywhere. Yeah, where did I come up with 22 miles. LOL Perhaps I’m confusing posts.

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Anyhoo, my zooming in/out results in SAE measurements.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 3:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] APRS iGate stopped working!

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The screen shot I saw had 4m (4 meters) for the range.
Where are you seeing 22 miles?


Follow me???

 

This program is new to me but so far I am very impressed. ?


贬辞飞别惫别谤….

Can someone please tell me how to turn off the pop up screen on my own location that comes up every 30 minutes.?

It’s acting like I am following myself, but I’m sorry I already know where I am ?

Thanks
Brian


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

The screen shot I saw had 4m (4 meters) for the range.
Where are you seeing 22 miles?


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

Jon, your range was limited to 22 miles at that juncture. So yes, your gating was/is restricted.

K0ION


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

Jon, all, this is my screen at maximum zoom level.
Scroller red and take note of the radius of view. SEVENTEEN FEET!

Jon's zoom level isn't that drastic, at what I presume is 22 miles.


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

Thanks!? Does that mean that no APRS packets will be iGated by my computer into the internet and therefore will not show up on ?

Jon Kreski

AB9NN - FCC Ham Radio Call Sign

(920) 931 - 5511 - Cell

(231)3 83 - 4425 - Home






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On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:34?PM Ben Miller via <bmilleng=[email protected]> wrote:
The scroller will turn red if you have "Freeze on click" configured, and you click on the scroller. No incoming messages wil display.

Ben Miller, PE retired
KD9BBB
708-431-7875


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:11?AM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
Not sure how to answer this with so little information.
I am pretty sure the RED on the far left is because you are zoomed in to "maximum".??As you zoom out, the color will change.
? ?The reason only 2 objects are on screen and no map detail?is also because of how "zoomed in" you are.
? ?So from your comments, I would guess the screen was zoomed in by accident.
? ?The next logical question would be what else changed "unexpectedly".

Why do you think your IGATE isn't working?
? ?Is the scroller working?

-------
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

I just noticed your screenshot, so ignore my answer. The other response was correct ,that you are zoomed in. The bar gets shorter and changes color as you zoom out.

Ben Miller, PE retired
KD9BBB
708-431-7875


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 11:36?AM Ben Miller via <bmilleng=[email protected]> wrote:
I should have mentioned, click anywhere outside the scroller to release it.

Ben Miller, PE retired
KD9BBB
708-431-7875


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 11:34?AM Ben Miller via <bmilleng=[email protected]> wrote:
The scroller will turn red if you have "Freeze on click" configured, and you click on the scroller. No incoming messages wil display.

Ben Miller, PE retired
KD9BBB
708-431-7875


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:11?AM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
Not sure how to answer this with so little information.
I am pretty sure the RED on the far left is because you are zoomed in to "maximum".??As you zoom out, the color will change.
? ?The reason only 2 objects are on screen and no map detail?is also because of how "zoomed in" you are.
? ?So from your comments, I would guess the screen was zoomed in by accident.
? ?The next logical question would be what else changed "unexpectedly".

Why do you think your IGATE isn't working?
? ?Is the scroller working?

-------
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

I should have mentioned, click anywhere outside the scroller to release it.

Ben Miller, PE retired
KD9BBB
708-431-7875


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 11:34?AM Ben Miller via <bmilleng=[email protected]> wrote:
The scroller will turn red if you have "Freeze on click" configured, and you click on the scroller. No incoming messages wil display.

Ben Miller, PE retired
KD9BBB
708-431-7875


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:11?AM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
Not sure how to answer this with so little information.
I am pretty sure the RED on the far left is because you are zoomed in to "maximum".??As you zoom out, the color will change.
? ?The reason only 2 objects are on screen and no map detail?is also because of how "zoomed in" you are.
? ?So from your comments, I would guess the screen was zoomed in by accident.
? ?The next logical question would be what else changed "unexpectedly".

Why do you think your IGATE isn't working?
? ?Is the scroller working?

-------
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

The scroller will turn red if you have "Freeze on click" configured, and you click on the scroller. No incoming messages wil display.

Ben Miller, PE retired
KD9BBB
708-431-7875


On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:11?AM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
Not sure how to answer this with so little information.
I am pretty sure the RED on the far left is because you are zoomed in to "maximum".??As you zoom out, the color will change.
? ?The reason only 2 objects are on screen and no map detail?is also because of how "zoomed in" you are.
? ?So from your comments, I would guess the screen was zoomed in by accident.
? ?The next logical question would be what else changed "unexpectedly".

Why do you think your IGATE isn't working?
? ?Is the scroller working?

-------
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


Re: APRS iGate stopped working!

 

Not sure how to answer this with so little information.
I am pretty sure the RED on the far left is because you are zoomed in to "maximum".??As you zoom out, the color will change.
? ?The reason only 2 objects are on screen and no map detail?is also because of how "zoomed in" you are.
? ?So from your comments, I would guess the screen was zoomed in by accident.
? ?The next logical question would be what else changed "unexpectedly".

Why do you think your IGATE isn't working?
? ?Is the scroller working?

-------
Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


APRS iGate stopped working!

 

What the???? My iGate which was processing nicely virtually all the APRS traffic in our rural area for many monts seemingly just stopped working.? I checked my radio, correct frequency, etc. and checked my cables.? Nothing seems wrong.? I took a quick look at the APRSIS32 screen and saw a few odd things.? One is that the bar on the left side of the screen is red.? Not sure that is right.? Also, there are two objects on the screen, both of which are me.? One is ME which I believe is AB9NN-48, my base station igate and is centered on the screen. The other is AB9NN? which is NW of center.? That is my callsign.? Why would there be two objects showing up?? I know it's not processing any APRS packets because I just drove my mobile multiple times and it always proceesses them even though there is another digipeter in the area.? That digipeater doesn't have the footprint that I do and I process 99.99% of the APRS traffic in the area when my iGate is working.

What steps should I take to resolve this?? I also did a test transmission to a repeater across Lake Michigan to ensure it wasn't the coax or the antenna and I was able to raise the repeater with an S10 signal returned.

Thanks!


Re: Passcode

 

Thanks. Just got it ok


Re: Passcode

 

I have sent you a second copy to the email. I cannot send it through the group or everyone?
will know your passcode, try using an address other than if you still do not receive it!

73 de
Steve Wilson
KF6WAX, APRSISCE, ADMIN/MODERATOR


On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 7:02?PM Brian Boulden via <w4bjb=[email protected]> wrote:

I send out an email over the weekend to get my Passcode. Does anyone know what the turn around time averages? I haven’t heard anything?

Really want to see what I can do with this ?

Brian?
W4BJB


Re: Passcode

 

I sent it immediately back to you but bumps our email replies, and I suspect you may not
see this email either

73 de
Steve Wilson
KF6WAX, APRSISCE, ADMIN/MODERATOR


On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 7:02?PM Brian Boulden via <w4bjb=[email protected]> wrote:

I send out an email over the weekend to get my Passcode. Does anyone know what the turn around time averages? I haven’t heard anything?

Really want to see what I can do with this ?

Brian?
W4BJB


Passcode

 

I send out an email over the weekend to get my Passcode. Does anyone know what the turn around time averages? I haven’t heard anything?

Really want to see what I can do with this ?

Brian?
W4BJB


winx3in1 mini

 

If anyone has a config file to get this up and running on aprsis32 would be geatly appreciated lots of parameters trying to use a 991A thanks in advance?


Re: Configuration option for messages

 

That's what I expected.? Thanks for the clarification.
Arnold, KQ6DI

On 04/20/2024 6:35 PM PDT Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:
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Only the instance that matches the -SSID will issue the ack.?? The option does exactly what it says and nothing more.? It enables "reception" and "display", but not acking.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 4/20/2024 7:05 PM, Arnold Harding - KQ6DI wrote:
In Configure -> Messages? there is the option " My Messages".? The online manual says
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My Messages
Selecting this option will enable reception and display of any message addressed to your callsign regardless of the SSID the message is sent to.
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Let's suppose I have two APRSIS32 computers, but different SSIDs.? Do they BOTH ACK a message only sent to one of the devices regardless of the SSID of the message???
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It seems as if the only ack should come from the device with the correct SSID, but this isn't clear.
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Thanks, Arnold
KQ6DI - *