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Re: APRS with KAMXL
Missed this originally.? Viewing online in 开云体育 only showed "Rob," then <show quoted>. KB8RCO |
Re: APRS with KAMXL
True, but the latest request was to be able to "put" the KAM XL into KISS mode and exit KISS mode when APRSIS32 starts and stops.
To accomplish this option you need to choose between: 1. Using <OpenCmd> and <CloseCmd> commands in the APRSIS32.XML file? ? ? These commands are specific to the hardware TNC in use. ? ? There are a few examples on the WIKI, but Lynn cannot cover all makes and models of hardware TNCs that have exited. 2. Setup a script file that will ? ? a) Properly configure the serial interface to the hardware ? ? b) Send the proper commands over THAT serial port to ENABLE KISS mode on the specific hardware TNC ? ? c) Use a Simply(KISS) port as the port type in APRSIS32? ? ? d)??Send the proper commands over THAT serial port to DISABLE KISS mode on the specific hardware TNC Number 2 seems easier in Linux in my opinion, because the COMM port is just a file in /dev. It is still "fairly easy" in WIndows with the enhanced scripting of PowerShell (not old command line). ------- Robert Giuliano KB8RCO |
Re: APRS with KAMXL
Rob:
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 01:41 PM, Rob Giuliano wrote: I opened the APRSIS32.XML file in Notepad and made those changes as above after eliminating the other Open and Close commands. I put a blank line before and after these commands for clarity. This was in the section starting with: <!--RFPort[1]-->
<RFPort Name="KAM XL">
When I started APRSIS2 it acted the same as before.? However there was an error message behind the APRSIS32 screen that read: Primary Configuration Error, Recovered From - Safe I'm assuming that if APRSIS32 discovers an error it reverts to the safe file in the directory and overwrites APRSIS32.XML with the safe file. Going back into APRSIS32.XML the new commands were gone, hence my above assumption. I noted that the section I was editing also has a third line at the opening that reads: <Protocol>Simply(KISS)</Protocol> Does this need to be changed to something else or did I edit the wrong area? Thank you.
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Re: APRS with KAMXL
Max Baker
Coming into this discussion late, but I’ll add my experience. I set up my KPC-3 (not +) with APRSIS and could not get KPC and APRSIS to talk. To make a long story short, I had the KPC already in KISS mode before I turned on APRSIS. When APRSIS came up, it would trigger the KPC to go into KISS mode, but instead it was turning off KISS mode. I then learned to put the KPC into simply KISS and it would ignore the command to switch on or off KISS; it just always stayed in KISS.?
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Re: APRS with KAMXL
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 08:35 PM, Carmine Prestia wrote:
Now, How do I get out of KISS if I want to do that?? Or better yet, how do I send commands to put the KAM in KISS when starting APRSIS and out of KISS when closing APRSIS?? I'm not sure I've ever seen how to do that.This requires you to edit the APRSIS32.XML file by hand (text editor). You will need to change the lines from the default Simply(KISS) values of: ? ? ?<OpenCmd>~!!0</OpenCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??<!— This is a simple NOOP (No Operation) — >
? ? ?<CloseCmd>~!!0</CloseCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<!— This is a simple NOOP (No Operation) — > to <OpenCmd>INTFACE KISS~!!1</OpenCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??<!— Transmit "INTFACE KISS <cr>", no Wait for response", 1 second max — >
<OpenCmd>RESET~!!1</OpenCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<!— Transmit "RESET <cr>", no Wait for response", 1 second max — >
<CloseCmd>^192^255^192~!cmd:!1</CloseCmd>
First 2 lines (of the "to" statements) will transmit the commands to place the KAMXL into KISS mode when APRS opens - OR, the port is reset. The last line will transmit the 192, 255, 192 sequence needed to exit KISS mode when APRSIS32 closes. ------- Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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Re: APRS with KAMXL
Lynn Deffenbaugh
开云体育In KISS mode, the APRS packet headers are bit-shifted to the left by 1 resulting in unreadable characters in a terminal view.? The APRS packet payloads are typically humanly readable however. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 2/27/2024 12:39 PM, David Harris via
groups.io wrote:
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Re: APRS with KAMXL
开云体育? Rob Giuliano has a good eye…? your TNC is certainly using an 8-bit ASCII character set, and your terminal program may be set to some other format (Unicode?), which is selecting the 2-bit characters.? Check your terminal emulation settings. Those 16-bit characters will not be understood by a machine looking for 8 bits and the start/stop/parity bits. ? ??????? Best regards.? ???de N6UOW ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [APRSISCE] APRS with KAMXL ? I agree the TNC is not going into KISS mode. |
Re: APRS with KAMXL
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On 2024-02-26 20:35, Carmine Prestia wrote:
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Re: APRS Error With VARA HF
Lynn Deffenbaugh
开云体育Looks like that error comes from VARA HF, not APRSIS32.?? You need to ask this in their support group. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 2/26/2024 7:14 PM, Tony wrote:
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Re: APRS with KAMXL
Rob, et al.:
I did try the INTFACE KISS command but not the RESET.? I'll have to try that and see what happens. Using PuTTY I opened the KAM-XL and sent INTFACE KISS, then RESET.? The immediate result is that the messages have nonsense characters in them when watching the raw traffic. I started APRSIS and it appears to be working.? Not only is traffic appearing in the monitor window but things are appearing on the map.? It still reports KAM-XL OK.? I also backed out and tried Winlink Express and it worked. Now, How do I get out of KISS if I want to do that?? Or better yet, how do I send commands to put the KAM in KISS when starting APRSIS and out of KISS when closing APRSIS?? I'm not sure I've ever seen how to do that. Thank you. Carmine, K3CWP |
Re: APRS with KAMXL
Rob, et al.:
1. Hardware flow control is enabled using RTS/DTR - does you serial port provide hardware flow control? ? ? If not, are you shorting the pins to "fake" hardware flow control ? ? KISS mode pretty much requires hardware flow control on hardware TNCs because the speed of the attached device vs. 'on air' device is almost always way different. ? ? The TNC and computer need some sort of control to ensure the buffers don't overrun.? In APRS, the packets are typically small, but it still becomes an issue. Flow control on the serial port, either the native serial port or the USB to FTDI adapter is set to 'None'. I'm not shorting any pins.? No physical changes have been made to either cables or ports. The KISS exit common and pretty common (192, 255, 192) . The Tera Term Pro macro would be a line of just? ? ? ?sendln 192 255 192 To enter KISS mode, the lines (2 required) ; send interface command to set KISS mode ? ? ?sendln 'INTFACE KISS' ; delay 50 ms (may not be required, but helps on some setups.?? ? ? ?mpause 50 ; send RESET? typically needs to be sent with 500 ms of the INTFACE (at least on my KPC3 that was true) ? ? ?sendln 'RESET' I did try the INTFACE KISS command but not the RESET.? I'll have to try that and see what happens. Additionally, I installed PinPoint APRS and tried it.? I get the same behavior except that PinPoint provides a Communications Monitor Window where I can see the raw traffic from the TNC but still nothing appears on the map. Thanks, I'll try the KISS change again. Carmine, K3CWP |
APRS Error With VARA HF
开云体育All: Getting the following error message when running APRSIS32 with
VARA HF v4.8.5. ?"APRS Format Error. Wrong call sign". Anyone else experiencing this? Tony -K2MO |
Re: APRS with KAMXL
I agree the TNC is not going into KISS mode. |
Re: Question about APRSISCE32 logging
Lynn Deffenbaugh
开云体育Not really, sorry.?? All of APRSIS32's logs are in raw packet
format. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 2/26/2024 2:30 PM, Russ Chadwick
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Re: APRS with KAMXL
Looks like you are being taken care of Carmine, so I’ll bow out of this. Thanks for helping him everyone.
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- 73 - - Michael Coslo N3LI - Frequency Coordinator, Beaver Stadium President, Nittany Amateur Radio Club mjc5@... mjcn3li@... Mobile 814-404-3991 On Feb 26, 2024, at 6:52?AM, Carmine Prestia <carmine.prestia@...> wrote: |
Re: APRS with KAMXL
It appears that it's not in KISS mode. I believe it takes INTFACE KISS followed by RESET on my KPC-9612+ in order to put it in KISS mode. 73, Lee K5DAT On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:52?AM Carmine Prestia <carmine.prestia@...> wrote: Good morning: |