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Re: Delrin
V Sathe
I am a newbie to the group. I know that many plastics
become brittle at (very) low temperatures. Some of them need to be treated with liquid nitrogen to make them brittle. One experiment someone can try is to keep the piece in a freezer for a couple of hours and then try to machine it. Liquid nitrogen is dangerous in some ways (don't try to dip your body parts in it - they will break off too) but something else that can be sprayed to cool the work piece (The newer Freon?) may do the job. Don't know how it will affect the cutting tool though. I don't have a lathe yet. I joined the group to hang around & read various discussions to get a feel of what I should buy. May be in a few months ... Chip_User ---------------------------------------------- --- Richard Albers <rralbers@...> wrote: Snipped We just live with it. I don't think it isSnipped __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! |
Re: question about the chuck
IMHO, the proper method is to use the chuck key in a key hole.
Any slight chance of distorting the chuck body is reduced by applying the force against the large pinion bearing surface instead of against the relatively skinny slots of the jaw-locating face. Roy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Jim E." <jim0000@a...> wrote: Proper method is what you're doing, minus the rag.tried turningto remove the 3-jaw chuck, but could not keep the chuck from wrap ato unscrew the 3 screws. What I did is open up the chuck and rightrag around a screw drive and put it in the jaws to keep it from way to do it, I don't want to get into the habit of doing it this |
Re: question about the chuck
Jim E.
Proper method is what you're doing, minus the rag.
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Graciously, Jim Lakewood, CA All Hail Rube Goldberg! lecompte126 wrote:
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Re: question about the chuck
Ed Paradis
Kelvin, The normal method most folks use is to use either the chuck
key itself, or what I made for mine. I made a separate hand key for the various chucks that I use on mine. In the Photos section, look under "Ed's stuff" and you'll see a photo of what I use. The construction of them is pretty easy, using some square stock and file handles. These help you to get a decent purchase on the chuck when tightening the nuts, plus make a handy tool for setting up your work. Just size the square stock for the appropriate square hole on your particular chuck. On both of them, the square stock is bedded about the same distance inside as what is showing on the outside. I drilled a round hole slightly smaller than the square stock and then whackalated the thing together. Works great... Ed --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "lecompte126" <lecompte126@h...> wrote: Hi everyone,tried to remove the 3-jaw chuck, but could not keep the chuck fromturning to unscrew the 3 screws. What I did is open up the chuck and wrapa rag around a screw drive and put it in the jaws to keep it fromright way to do it, I don't want to get into the habit of doing it this |
Re: question about the chuck
Put the chuck key in one of the holes; use it to keep the chuck
from turning. Roy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "lecompte126" <lecompte126@h...> wrote: Hi everyone,tried to remove the 3-jaw chuck, but could not keep the chuck fromturning to unscrew the 3 screws. What I did is open up the chuck and wrapa rag around a screw drive and put it in the jaws to keep it fromright way to do it, I don't want to get into the habit of doing it this |
Re: question about the chuck
Jerry Smith
Kevil,
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First of all removing a chuck, do it carefully, there 3 or 4 screws on the back of the chuck. What I did on my little lathe was put a 5 inch chuck on it, I used the back plate that HF sells and mounted the chuck. Things got much easier to do and I do recommend doing this enhancement. Here is the URL on how to do it and where to get stuff from: Jerry At 07:15 PM 6/16/2003, you wrote:
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question about the chuck
lecompte126
Hi everyone,
I was cleaning the red grease off of my Homier Lathe today. I tried to remove the 3-jaw chuck, but could not keep the chuck from turning to unscrew the 3 screws. What I did is open up the chuck and wrap a rag around a screw drive and put it in the jaws to keep it from turning. well this worked for me, but i'm sure this is not the right way to do it, I don't want to get into the habit of doing it this way, if there is a chance of breaking the jaws. So my question is What is the proper way to remove a chuck from the lathe? Thanks for you help. Kelvin |
Re: newbie
H & M
Thanks a bunch Ed, I am buying a Homier...
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From: Ed Paradis To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: newbie Greetings Mr. Hawk, if you don't already know, both machines are made in the same factory by Sieg. The main difference is with the accessories that are included with the Grizzly. The Grizzly includes the faceplate, steady rest, follow rest (if I remember correctly), which if purchased from HF, would not equal the price difference between the Homier and the Grizzly. I opted to get the Homier (total was about $360 with shipping) and I used the difference to get the other goodies from HF. The parts are fully interchangeable on both machines (actually all of the Sieg machines, such as the HF 7x10, Enco 7x10, Northern Tool 7x10, Grizzly 7x12, etc.) Homier is reputed to have an excellent reputation with handling any of the warranty issues, I can't speak to how Grizzly handles theirs.... Ed "Expiring minds want to know..." --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "lifes_jeep" <swsmt@a...> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am ready to purchase a 7x12 mini lathe and see a whoppin price > difference between grizzly and homier. I know the grizzly comes with > 2 extra tools (steady rest and 6 1/4" faceplate). Are there any > differences in the actual parts of the machines? are some parts more > rugged on the grizzly (plasctic on homeier? vs. metal on grizzly?) > > $299 sure sounds like a real good buy. I wanna get a little lathe and > then build an upscaled gingery (with around 40" workspace between > centers) > > Choice is important to me since I live only half hour drive from > grizzly tools and get get parts real easy. > > -Hawk- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 7x12minilathe-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
Re: Delrin
Richard Albers
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Ron DeBlock" <rdeblock@a...>
wrote: <Snip> The Delrin is wonderful material to machine, except for oneannoyance: the chip comes off as a single, long string. It becomes a big, soft,fuzzy mess that gets tangled up on the work, the tooling, the live center, thechuck, etc. It reminds me of poodle fur. We had to stop often to cleanoff the fuzz. It's especially annoying when parting off.something we have to live with?We just live with it. I don't think it is possible to break such a soft material into smaller chips. It *may* be possible to grab the string with pliers and break it (or just hold it away from the cut), but I do not recommend this for most HSMs - it would be too easy to get into trouble. Like watching the chip,and forgetting to stop the cut before the bit hits the chuck (lots of us have done that :-o). BTW, projects like this are a good way to justify the purchase ofmachine tools - "But, dear, it's for the children!"Sounds like that one should fly! RA |
Re: No reverse / What to do!
Richard Albers
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "kgmk99" <kgmk99@y...> wrote:
I just (2 days ago) received my new (Homier)Speedway 7 x 12You already have answers for the "no reverse" problem. FYI, these lathes *all* run slower in reverse than forward. It is just another "feature". It appears to actually be intentional, since there is a resistor added to the circuitry only in reverse. Probably to protect us (or our lathes) from ourselves... It is not mentioned in the user's manual, AFAIK. Has anyone defeated this resistor? If so, what were the results? RA |
Re: QCTP question
There are other references for tool setting:
The chuck face is perpendicular to the work. The tailstock ram is parallel to the work. Setting a tool relative to the chuck is easier with a parallel; either a rigid 6" rule or a center (fishtail) gauge is handy. Also, the ends of decent rules and the tips of the center gauge are ground square to the their bodies; either makes a convenient mini-square that's accurate enough for tool setting. FWIW, 1/4" pipe is ideal for making 1/2" to 3/8" adaptors: 0.54" OD, 0.36"ID (That's for common, schedule 40 pipe; the less common versions have different IDs.) Roy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "John" <moran03@e...> wrote: I noticed the toolpost being discussed is round so it looks likeyou set the angle each time you change tools. I added the Phase IIcome up with is to chuck a rod and use my machinist square to get thethe chuck (another symptom of newbyitis, probably). There are timeswhen it would be nice to change the angle slightly (to reduce chatter)thing (it is meant for bars with larger shanks because the toolpost iscapability. on the sitepage.below but I believe it was originally designed by someone on thislist (Mert? Jim ?).differently I used1"LG4 gunmetal mainly because it was the only metal I had handy inthe sizerequired. It works fine but scratches rather easily. If you don'thave abandsaw or powered hacksaw, now is the time to buy one, cutting chunks ofmy2"x2" Al or steel is going to give you *big* shoulders :-) I cut firstremovethree by hand until I got the bandsaw. Made loads since. I alsoadded alocknut to the height adjusting screw for obvious reasons. the topatool post locking nut just to change holders so I made a new one.It's justa piece of 1" round bar drilled and tapped M10 (check yours) with hole inbottomthe side for a tommy barboring the lip ofcompoundthe post. This will allow the holder to sit lower down and soenable me touse slightly larger tools if needed. will movethebefore the tool post does, it's that solid! tootime for it ... until now. oflarge and cannot clamp down on a 0.375" bar.maybe justthe cylinder. How does it behave during heavy roughing cuts or made thetouting |
Re: newbie
Ed Paradis
Greetings Mr. Hawk, if you don't already know, both machines are made
in the same factory by Sieg. The main difference is with the accessories that are included with the Grizzly. The Grizzly includes the faceplate, steady rest, follow rest (if I remember correctly), which if purchased from HF, would not equal the price difference between the Homier and the Grizzly. I opted to get the Homier (total was about $360 with shipping) and I used the difference to get the other goodies from HF. The parts are fully interchangeable on both machines (actually all of the Sieg machines, such as the HF 7x10, Enco 7x10, Northern Tool 7x10, Grizzly 7x12, etc.) Homier is reputed to have an excellent reputation with handling any of the warranty issues, I can't speak to how Grizzly handles theirs.... Ed "Expiring minds want to know..." --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "lifes_jeep" <swsmt@a...> wrote: Hi folks,with 2 extra tools (steady rest and 6 1/4" faceplate). Are there anymore rugged on the grizzly (plasctic on homeier? vs. metal on grizzly?)and then build an upscaled gingery (with around 40" workspace between |
Re: newbie
-HAWK-
I bought a Grizzly myself and have been very happy with it. There is alot of packing grease to remove! If you have a bent chip tray they will replace it no questions asked at least they did with me. I have noticed alot of people that have Homier, speedway seem to have alot of electrical problems were I have not seen many Grizzly lathes with this problem. I know Grizzly has a variable speed control. Getting a face plate,dead center and steady rest with change gears oil bottle allen wrenches is nice. I personally would give you advice to buy carbide tipped toolsteel from ENCO before you learn to grind toolsteel. You learn how all the shapes work and understand what they are for before you grind plus you can work metal right away. I also bought a drill chuck and a 4inch chuck. I bought alot of toolsteel carbide tipped and T-15 toolsteel that I need to grind to shape. Most that I purchased came from I use castrol GTX oil in the oil bottle. I use TapMagic for cutting fluid. I would give you some advice to purchase Part Number: 1362 from Little Machine Shop. This part will allow you to change gears for thread cutting. Some people break the 80T gear trying to get the bushing out of the gear. You'll be able to change gears faster also. Good Luck! Anthony --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "lifes_jeep" <swsmt@a...> wrote: Hi folks,with 2 extra tools (steady rest and 6 1/4" faceplate). Are there anymore rugged on the grizzly (plasctic on homeier? vs. metal on grizzly?)and then build an upscaled gingery (with around 40" workspace between |
Re: QCTP question
John
I noticed the toolpost being discussed is round so it looks like you
set the angle each time you change tools. I added the Phase II toolpost and find setting the angle awkward when it needs to be accurately perpendicular to use the parting tool. The best I've come up with is to chuck a rod and use my machinist square to get the toolpost angle set before chucking the actual part. I don't have a good way to set the angle accurately with a small part already in the chuck (another symptom of newbyitis, probably). There are times when it would be nice to change the angle slightly (to reduce chatter) while a part is in the chuck but I can't do this if I intend to eventually use the parting tool. Apparently, you do have a way to set the angle with a part in the chuck. Perhaps you could describe how to do this, assuming it would work with other toolposts. Another part of this thread concerned the size of the hole in the Phase II boring bar holder being too large. Mine had the same thing (it is meant for bars with larger shanks because the toolpost is meant for larger lathes) so I made a split sleeve from aluminum to accept my set of inexpensive brazed carbide boring bars with 3/8 shanks. This works fine; I leave the sleeve in the boring bar when changing bars. I also made a second sleeve to accommodate a couple of bars I have with larger shanks so the large bore adds capability. The Phase II toolpost/toolholders set is frequently on sale at Enco for $89. It is a bit large for the minilathe and I wound up increasing the cross slide travel to accommodate it, see: While it is the most expensive addition I've made to my minilathe, the Phase II is well made and works well, especially once the lathe is set up for it. John --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Steve Thompson" <sk.thompson@n...> wrote: Hi Den,the site below but I believe it was originally designed by someone on thislist (Mert ? Jim ?).differently is to make the post itself from steel as indicated on the web page.I used LG4 gunmetal mainly because it was the only metal I had handy inthe size required. It works fine but scratches rather easily. If you don'thave a bandsaw or powered hacksaw, now is the time to buy one, cutting 1"chunks of 2"x2" Al or steel is going to give you *big* shoulders :-) I cut myfirst three by hand until I got the bandsaw. Made loads since. I alsoadded a locknut to the height adjusting screw for obvious reasons.the top tool post locking nut just to change holders so I made a new one.It's just a piece of 1" round bar drilled and tapped M10 (check yours) with ahole in the side for a tommy barboring the centre hole, to cut a recess in the bottom to just clear the bottomlip of the post. This will allow the holder to sit lower down and soenable me to use slightly larger tools if needed.will move before the tool post does, it's that solid!maybe even better) than a dovetail post due to the large surface area oftouting > the benefits ofthough, I wasanyone > tried theother toolsreally > appreciated. |
Re: QCTP question
Steve Thompson
Hi Den,
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Don't give me the credit for designing this project. I found it on the site below but I believe it was originally designed by someone on this list (Mert ? Jim ?). I am more than pleased with it. The only thing I would have done differently is to make the post itself from steel as indicated on the web page. I used LG4 gunmetal mainly because it was the only metal I had handy in the size required. It works fine but scratches rather easily. If you don't have a bandsaw or powered hacksaw, now is the time to buy one, cutting 1" chunks of 2"x2" Al or steel is going to give you *big* shoulders :-) I cut my first three by hand until I got the bandsaw. Made loads since. I also added a locknut to the height adjusting screw for obvious reasons. After I had used it for a while, I got fed up with having to remove the top tool post locking nut just to change holders so I made a new one. It's just a piece of 1" round bar drilled and tapped M10 (check yours) with a hole in the side for a tommy bar One thing I'm going to try next time I make a holder is, after boring the centre hole, to cut a recess in the bottom to just clear the bottom lip of the post. This will allow the holder to sit lower down and so enable me to use slightly larger tools if needed. With regard to roughing cuts, with this tool post on, the compound will move before the tool post does, it's that solid! Hope this helps, Steve -----Original Message-----
From: denyhstk [mailto:nheng@...] Sent: 07 June 2003 17:41 To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: QCTP question Steve: I've had that qctp bookmarked for some time but have not found the time for it ... until now. I just bought and am returning a micro qctp from Phase II. The hardare is cheap and many screws will not even accept a quality metric hex wrench. Also, the boring bar holder is bored much too large and cannot clamp down on a 0.375" bar. The post you built appears as though it could be as rigid (or maybe even better) than a dovetail post due to the large surface area of the cylinder. How does it behave during heavy roughing cuts or parting cuts ? Thanks for sharing your project ! Den --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Steve Thompson" <sk.thompson@n...> wrote: > If you are on a limited budget, why not make your own. I've just made the > one at . Works a treat. > > Steve > > > Hi: > > > > I've just joined the list and I have found many comments touting > the benefits of > > a quick change tool post. Being on a limited budget, though, I was > wondering > > if the model sold by Harbor Freight > ( > > Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42806) is worth the $85. Has anyone > tried the > > set? Any problems? It appears to come with some great attacments > and > > tools. I hate to do things on the cheap, but there are other tools > I need, and > > money is limited. Any comments or suggestions would be really > appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jason Swan > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > 7x12minilathe-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). > Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 01/04/2003 > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: 7x12minilathe-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/2003 |
Re: chuck holding power
cwalklin1
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Rich Kleinhenz"
<woodnpen@o...> wrote: I was using a die. Single point is not a problem. So the chuckis simply not able to withstand the torque required for die- threading, is that it? 1/4-20 is a tough one, of course, I have no problem with 1/4-28. Just the nature of the beast then, I take it. --trying to Use a small piece of emory cloth between the work and the jaws ofuse a die. the chuck. It will help to grip the stock. Making sure the "grit" side in on the stock. |
Re: No reverse / What to do!
George Kaplan
John,
Thanks for the info. I will contact Homier on Monday George --- John <moran03@...> wrote: Hi George, __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! |
Re: No reverse / What to do!
John
Hi George,
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AFIK the forward/reverse is not a common problem with the Homier 7x12's. This sounds like a problem with the f/r switch and Homier will likely ship a new one quickly once you contact them. I had a FET fail and a new board arrived from Homierwithin 10 days - nice people to deal with. Someone else in this group may have more knowledge than I on the common electrical problems. To contact owners who are guaranteed to be knowledgable on the lathe's electrical problems you might try the group which specializes in this area: John --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "kgmk99" <kgmk99@y...> wrote:
I just (2 days ago) received my new (Homier)Speedway 7 x 12 |
No reverse / What to do!
kgmk99
I just (2 days ago) received my new (Homier)Speedway 7 x 12
mini-lathe and the reverse stopped working. It worked the 1st couple of days but the RPMs were half of the forward speed in high and low gear. Now reverse does not work at all. Is this a known problem with the Speedways? What should I do about this? The forword works great! George |
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