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Cross Slide Lead Screw vs Brass Nut ?
John
As part of adding a ball bearing and more travel to my cross slide I
removed the cross slide lead screw. I noted a sludge on the lead screw which looks like powdered brass mixed with grease. I suspect that the lead screw threads were simply cut and not polished. The surface finish on the lead screw seems to be chewing away on the soft brass and this process will probably continue since the brass won't polish the roughness off the steel. While this is not unexpected given the difference in hardness, the amount of sludge indicates a lot of wear in a few months of use. I'm considering chucking this lead screw (from the knob end) and spinning it while using very fine sandpaper pressed into the threads with my fingernails - this is the way I often polish threads that I cut since they usually seem a little rough unless this is done. Is polishing the lead screw a good thing to attempt? Is there a better way of polishing the lead screw? Is there a better way of reducing wear to the brass nut? Any references to articles on the net addressing this? John |
Re: chuck holding power
Are you sure that it is not hardened? Some users have
confused drill ROD with drill BLANKS. Drill blanks are hardened and can't be turned in the lathe. Drill rod can also be in a hardened state that can't be turned. I have cut a number of threads in drill rod without too much trouble, although, as Roy points out, it is not the easiest material to work with compared with brass or aluminum. --- roylowenthal <roylowenthal@...> wrote: The chuck will improve if it's reduced to its __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). |
Re: chuck holding power
The chuck will improve if it's reduced to its component parts,
deburred and lubricated. There's usually one jaw that binds against the body, reducing the clamping force. All that being said, drill rod is a real bear to get clean threads on. Single point roughing followed by a die is a winning method, enhanced with a thread file for final finish. Roy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Rich Kleinhenz" <woodnpen@o...> wrote: I tried to hold a piece of D size drill rod (.246") in the stad 3"chuck on my Homier 7x12 and cut a 1/4-20 thread, and could not. The rod would slip in the chuck, no matter how hard I tried to crack the jaws closed. Is that as expected, or do I need to do something to my chuck? -- |
Re: chuck holding power
Rich Kleinhenz
I was using a die. Single point is not a problem. So the chuck is simply not able to withstand the torque required for die-threading, is that it? 1/4-20 is a tough one, of course, I have no problem with 1/4-28. Just the nature of the beast then, I take it.
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From: "Robert Streimikes" <rjs@...> 1. I assume you are trying to single point the thread and not trying to |
Re: Scissor Knurling Tool
Richard Kleinhenz
I have a cheapie from LMS. The mounting bar ripped off the first time I used it. I retapped for 8-32 and it's worked OK since.
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* REPLY SEPARATOR * On 6/5/2003 at 5:16 PM phrak9 wrote:
Anyone have any suggestions on who sells a scissor knurling tool for a speedway mini lathe? I have a TS engineering QC toolpost on the lathe < -- Regards, Rich ======================================== Richard Kleinhenz mailto:woodnpen@... ======================================== |
Re: chuck holding power
Richard Kleinhenz
Ah, that's an idea, start single point, finish with die... thank you very much!!! Yes, I use tapmagic, and I did not use the waterpipe extension on the chuck key, figured it I could not hold it using my hands on teh chuck key something was wrong!
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chuck holding power
Rich Kleinhenz
I tried to hold a piece of D size drill rod (.246") in the stad 3" chuck on my Homier 7x12 and cut a 1/4-20 thread, and could not. The rod would slip in the chuck, no matter how hard I tried to crack the jaws closed. Is that as expected, or do I need to do something to my chuck?
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Re: chuck holding power
Robert Streimikes
If you are serious about this you could try turning a sholder on the rod in order to make the start easier. But what I would do is start the thread with single point then finish it with a die. Single point isn't really that difficult esp if you clean up with a die. Do not forget to use some tap magic or some such cutting fluid (for both the single point work and the die work.) Take it easy tightening that chuck you do not want to damage the scroll.
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Regards Bob Rich Kleinhenz wrote: I was using a die. Single point is not a problem. So the chuck is simply not able to withstand the torque required for die-threading, is that it? 1/4-20 is a tough one, of course, I have no problem with 1/4-28. Just the nature of the beast then, I take it. |
Re: chuck holding power
Robert Streimikes
Hello Richard,
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A couple of things to look at: 1. I assume you are trying to single point the thread and not trying to use a die. Assuming that is the case start by checking how hard the drill rod is. Will a file cut it? if not then it must be anealed before threading. 2. Single point threading is done with repeated passes each slightly deeper than the one before. Your first pass should barely scratch the surface. There is a lot of info out there on threading in a lathe I am sure others will point you at some of it. The 3 jaw that comes with the 7x10 is a reasonably good chuck I doubt your problems are with it. Regards Bob Rich Kleinhenz wrote: I tried to hold a piece of D size drill rod (.246") in the stad 3" chuck on my Homier 7x12 and cut a 1/4-20 thread, and could not. The rod would slip in the chuck, no matter how hard I tried to crack the jaws closed. Is that as expected, or do I need to do something to my chuck? |
Joliet, Illinois Homier Sale (Anyone going?)
atomic_hank556
Greetings,
I got this via e-mail. If anyone is going perhaps we could meet and network. Based upon what I saw at the last sale in Indiana if you want a mini-lathe or mini-mill you had better get there when they open up for business, they only had one of each at the last sale. Email me at iltrng@.... If any of you are registered with the mini-mill group please forward this on to them. Hank A Homier Mobile Merchant Sale is going to be at the following location: THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY & SUNDAY JUNE 12, 13, 14 & 15 NORTH RIDGE PLAZA 1300 NORTH LARKIN AVENUE * IN THE FORMER SERVICE MERCHANDISE CORNER OF LARKIN AVENUE AND THEODORE STREET JOLIET, IL THURS - SAT: 10 AM - 8 PM SUN: 10 AM - 6 PM |
FYI: Harbor Freight 9x20 @$599
John Breitbach
My flyer said "IN STORE ONLY"
does the HF 9x20 have true inch lead screws? ie .050"/rev rather than .0625"/rev...??? now, I have to decide if a 9x20 HF is a better choice than an 8x14 Lathermaster....definately cheaper with this promotion given shipping costs with the lathemaster....but is all the extra "start up accessories" with the lathemaster worth it.....I am sure the 8x14 will satisfy my needs size wise. anyway...I'll toil with my own indecisiveness....JB "Jim E." <jim0000@...> wrote: Catalog, or in-store only? Either way, I hope I get the same flyer. I recently bought one, $649 in-store. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). |
Delrin
Greetings,
My 13 year old son built Junior Solar Sprint car. The wheels were machined from black Delrin on the Homier 7x12. We made a new set of lighter wheels tonight, since he's competing in the Northeast Championship on Sunday. (see ) The Delrin is wonderful material to machine, except for one annoyance: the chip comes off as a single, long string. It becomes a big, soft, fuzzy mess that gets tangled up on the work, the tooling, the live center, the chuck, etc. It reminds me of poodle fur. We had to stop often to clean off the fuzz. It's especially annoying when parting off. Is there anyway to get the chip to break into pieces? Or is it something we have to live with? BTW, projects like this are a good way to justify the purchase of machine tools - "But, dear, it's for the children!" -Ron |
Re: 7x12 Mini Lathe from Homier
John
Hi Kelvin,
Frank Hoose's site has lots of info on the doodads you'll need to actually make things with your lathe. Plus lots of other useful info on setup, tuning, modifications, etc. In addition, there is a file on the 7x10 site, "Things You Need.txt" found here: Between these two your wallet will be thinner than a super model! John --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "lecompte126" <lecompte126@h...> wrote: Hello everyone,I have to buy tools for it to be used.where to get them. |
Re: 7x12 Mini Lathe from Homier
Jerry Smith
George,
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The first thing is what do you want to do with your lathe? Buy O.K. quality tools to practice with even if you have lathe experience on other machines. The best thing I ever did was get a 5" chuck for mine. It will hold much more and works much better for some thing that I turn. Here is the online article about doing it. I have made bushings, threaded round stock and made little things for around the shop that I need with my lathe with the 5 inch chuck. Also a drill chuck, half inch or so is very handy, you can drill more precise holes on your lathe. Maybe a quick change tool post would help, I made my own and used a couple of tools, like a knurling tool, that I purchased from places like Grizzly or Busy Bee. Plus you have to remember there is never enough money to buy all of the toys that companies sell, so a good lesson is make them yourself. Last item that should be the first thing you buy, is the Machinery's Handbook (an old version will do) and a copy of the Machinists' Ready Reference. The machinery's handbook is a really wonderful thing to have, I found a 1964 copy for $20US, plus shipping and the Machinist Ready Reference was a 1981 copy for $10US. As that you have not indicated that you are running a factory full of CNC machines, these older editions will have a great deal of useful information for you and at a bargain price. Jerry At 07:26 PM 6/3/2003, you wrote:
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Re: 7x12 Mini Lathe from Homier
kraken_03
George,
I just ordered mine as well, off ebay but it's coming from Homier. If you hav'nt checked out these sights yet go to littlemachineshop.com (LMS)and mini-lathe.com they are full of good information. To get me started I ordered cutting bits from mcmaster.com they seem to have the best pricing so for and really fast shipping. I ordered my drill chuck from LMS as well as a dial indicator. I'm still tooling up as well. I guess a larger lathe chuck is in my future soon. Just which the lathe would show...lol. If you come across any good info cc me. Thanks, Craig --- In 7x12minilathe@..., George Kaplan <kgmk99@y...> wrote: Kevin, |
Re: 7x12 Mini Lathe from Homier
George Kaplan
Kevin,
I also just ordered a Speedway 7 x 12 metal lathe from Homier and it is still in route. I am a beginner and need to also know what tools to purchase. Could you please forwrd to me any reples that you receive on your request and I will do the same. Thanks, George --- lecompte126 <lecompte126@...> wrote: Hello everyone, __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). |
7x12 Mini Lathe from Homier
lecompte126
Hello everyone,
I would like to thank every on who replied to my meassage on what type of mini lathe to buy. After reading the replys it seam to me the majority went with Homier's 7x12 Metal Lathe. I ordered my Sunday night on the internet. Now from what I understand, it is not ready to run out of the box, I have to buy tools for it to be used. Could anyone give me a list of the tools that I need to buy and where to get them. Can any of these tools be made (there seems to always be a money shortage around here) with the lathe? Thank you for your help in this matter. Kelvin |
Re: FYI: Harbor Freight 9x20 @$599
Jim E.
Catalog, or in-store only? Either way, I hope I get the same flyer. I
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recently bought one, $649 in-store. Graciously, Jim Lakewood, CA All Hail Rube Goldberg! John Breitbach wrote:
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Re: Speeday lathe question
Jerry Smith
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I used this face plate: For mounting my 5 inch chuck on my little lathe I had to measure and mill slots for the chuck, but it worked fine for me. I could probably reduce it's size but cutting the face plate and then smoothing it with a file while it was turning on the lathe, but it works well the way it is. The face plate is $12.99 plus shipping. Jerry At 11:49 PM 6/2/2003, you wrote:
I could not find a suitable back plate on the HF web |
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