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Chucking medium diameter tube in Mini lathe

Capt Ken Appleby <[email protected]>
 

Hi,
I have come across a problem. What is the best way to put a 2"x 8"
Brass tube in the mini-lathe. I find that using neither the 4-Jaw nor
the 3-Jaw allows it to grip sufficiently. It seems to be a sort
of 'Blind Spot'.

I want to machine both ends but to make a mandrel that size seems a
bit OTT.

Any ideas?
Regards
Ken


Re: Chester UK

david
 

sorry mike i got your name mixed up with another e-mail i was doing at the
same time!!!


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Re: now Chester UK

david
 

the chester cobra is the same as the SEIG X1. chester even use the seig
picture from their website,price is ???339 as opposed to ???499 at warco. have
you bought a micro mill steve? you could always pop over for a brew, i live
in astley bridge.



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Re: US/UK prices making a living, now Chester UK

Mike Ousby
 

I have bought several machines from Chester, David and also found the machines as supplied
were useless. They all needed stripping and rebuilding.

The service from Chester was abysmal.

They are just box shifters, like Warco.

The Cobra is not identical to the Taig/Peatol.

BR

Mike Ousby, in Blackburn not far from either Keighley or Bolton

On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:55:02 -0000, you wrote:

if you are cosidering a mini lathe can i give you some advice? i bought a
chester conquest and out of the box it looked good. however when i got it up
and running it was a horror story. none of the slides was adjusted and it
ran rough.

i rang chester several times and was given plenty of help from a great
salesman called gareth.in the end i stripped it completely and started
again. the lathe would not have run long in that condition. there was no
grease in the headstock at all, everything was dry. i adjusted all the
slides etc after giving them a good greasing . the motor was out of line and
the belt was slack.the 2 large adjusting strips under the slide were split
and would not clamp. once i had spent a week of spare time sorting it out i
now have a good little lathe.

i spoke to gareth recently and he assures me that all lathes are now
stripped and checked before despatch. if you are able, then go and pick it
up from chester yourself and have a look before you buy. if not telephone
first or better e-mail and get them to tell you it has been checked over

i am thinking of buying a cobra micro mill from them, but i will ask plenty
of searching questions before buying. i am not running down their products,
just be prepared to do a bit of work before you use it

P.S. WHERE DO YOU LIVE?


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US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

Capt Ken Appleby <[email protected]>
 

Chester ignored my emails!

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "david" <davidalan@l...> wrote:
have you tried ringing the spares line at machine mart? i have had
stuff
from them and had excellent service. chester u.k say that if you
need a part
and they do not stock it, they will take it off a machine for you



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US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

Capt Ken Appleby <[email protected]>
 

Hi David
Yes It was Machine Mart who said they couldn't supply drive belts
until Jan/Feb. I got some items from them but out of ten items three
were 'not in stock or due'
Regards
Ken

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "david" <davidalan@l...> wrote:
have you tried ringing the spares line at machine mart? i have had
stuff
from them and had excellent service. chester u.k say that if you
need a part
and they do not stock it, they will take it off a machine for you



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Re: US/UK prices making a living

david
 

if you are cosidering a mini lathe can i give you some advice? i bought a
chester conquest and out of the box it looked good. however when i got it up
and running it was a horror story. none of the slides was adjusted and it
ran rough.

i rang chester several times and was given plenty of help from a great
salesman called gareth.in the end i stripped it completely and started
again. the lathe would not have run long in that condition. there was no
grease in the headstock at all, everything was dry. i adjusted all the
slides etc after giving them a good greasing . the motor was out of line and
the belt was slack.the 2 large adjusting strips under the slide were split
and would not clamp. once i had spent a week of spare time sorting it out i
now have a good little lathe.

i spoke to gareth recently and he assures me that all lathes are now
stripped and checked before despatch. if you are able, then go and pick it
up from chester yourself and have a look before you buy. if not telephone
first or better e-mail and get them to tell you it has been checked over

i am thinking of buying a cobra micro mill from them, but i will ask plenty
of searching questions before buying. i am not running down their products,
just be prepared to do a bit of work before you use it

P.S. WHERE DO YOU LIVE?


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Re: US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

david
 

have you tried ringing the spares line at machine mart? i have had stuff
from them and had excellent service. chester u.k say that if you need a part
and they do not stock it, they will take it off a machine for you



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US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

Capt Ken Appleby <[email protected]>
 

Hi David,
Yes, I buy (and sell) a lot of stuff particularly to and from the
States - at least weekly - and have no problems whatsoever when the
goods are sent declared as 'replaced under warranty' etc, as they
(the Customs) don't bother with it. Put 'machine tools' and a value
and they attack with all guns firing. However the supplier said it
would "affect his ability to export". I can't see how, as I would
have got a lot more stuff for my lathe, and maybe my friends too.
Perhaps he is a part time "Customs Man"
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Regards
Ken

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "david" <davidalan@l...> wrote:
<<<<<<<<<<<. Today I got a letter
saying it would be February... So I am importing a couple of
them.>>>>>>>>>>

i think if the goods are valued at less than ?18 then they do not
collect
tax on items as it is not worth it. i bought a vintage model
aircraft engine
from the states and the chap stripped it down and sent it accross
as old
model engine parts/obsolete. i then rebuilt it and it runs like a
swiss
watch!!



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Re: US/UK prices making a living

 

Thanks for that advice.

Looks like a day out in Chester before I buy. I am over the Pennines from you
near Keighley.


Re: US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

david
 

<<<<<<<<<<<. Today I got a letter
saying it would be February... So I am importing a couple of them.>>>>>>>>>>

i think if the goods are valued at less than ???18 then they do not collect
tax on items as it is not worth it. i bought a vintage model aircraft engine
from the states and the chap stripped it down and sent it accross as old
model engine parts/obsolete. i then rebuilt it and it runs like a swiss
watch!!



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Re: US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

Mike Ousby
 

Jerry

I think that Ken is referring to Jersey, Guernsey & Sark, not the Napoleonic channel
forts.

Mike Ousby

On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 00:28:32 -0000, you wrote:

Hi Jerry,
The ones in the Thames estuary are largely dismantled except for a
couple of girders with navigation lights on them, and the ones in the
Solent (built in Napoleonic times) are now homes/hotels/deserted, and
are not tax exempt.

It is possible to import cheaper - and I do - but it has to be on
a 'goods exchanged under warranty' basis. Not all suppliers well do
this. I don't mind the 17? % VAT too much, but I don't like paying
tax twice and the Customs adding a further fee for acting as my Agent
to take my money off me, which takes a $129 item up to $244.

I think a lot of the problems in getting stuff for the mini-lathe is
that the suppliers here depend too much on shop sales (although spare
parts are not in shop) and are not yet into ordering on-line so much.
I have tried all the major suppliers here for a simple belt and was
told in December that it would be January. Today I got a letter
saying it would be February... So I am importing a couple of them.

It's only Mr Bliar who thinks we are still a World power.
Regards
Ken


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Jerry Smith <jfsmith@a...>
wrote:
Ken,
Are those "island nations" still on the WW II platforms in
the
Channel? They don't have any import taxes or duties. These days,
UPS
probably delivers to them, just an idea, that may benefit you.

Jerry

At 04:28 PM 12/28/2002 +0000, you wrote:
Hi,
If you want to know how lucky you guys in the US are, with your
$300
prices, the 'most - sold' version of the Mini Lathe in the UK is
the
Clarke CL300M and it costs ?683 but Machine Mart sells it for a low
<quote>Amazing Value</unguote> of ?469.94. Remember that is POUNDS
Sterling or $1.50 for each pound.

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Re: US/UK prices making a living

 

Hi

As another citizen of the UK considering the purchase of a mini-lathe I was
interested in the price comparison. Now Chester UK advertise the machine at
340 GBP ex-VAT so the US equivalent, before local sales tax, is around 540
USD. By the way this does include delivery with the UK.

There are any number of reasons for the UK/US price differentials, including:

Bulk buying - the US market is 4 to 5 times bigger.
Property is relatively cheaper in the US so company overheads are lower.
Similarly for some labour costs, usually the ones the employer pays.

But remember, at the end of the day the price a company sells at is the price
it believes it can extract from the customer. Also, there needs to be plenty
of competing products. To the best of my knowledge, in the UK the source of
cheap lathes is limited. In the US there may be others.

Right, now the economic lesson is over the actual lathes actually seem
reasonable. So a question, does anyone use one as a production machine as
part of making their living?


Re: US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

Jerry Smith
 

Ken,
Where I am from we call it a GST and PST, or Brian's Tax. So I buy
in the states, use it for a while re crate the stuff and rent a truck and
drive for 12 hours. It's house hold goods then.
Your MP really does have a different view on his position in the
world. If it wasn't for the "Yanks" he would be doing social reforms and
restoration of the crown.
While a member of the CF, I learned a deep dark secret. If the
Russians came over the North Pole, we were to instruct our troops to point
south and say "you want them not us, eh?" :->
There is one of those gun platforms still intact or more or less
intact, they are offer citizenship, play music that may not be in good
taste and have a major Internet connection. I am looking for the web site
at the moment.
Jerry

At 12:28 AM 12/29/2002 +0000, you wrote:
Hi Jerry,
The ones in the Thames estuary are largely dismantled except for a
couple of girders with navigation lights on them, and the ones in the
Solent (built in Napoleonic times) are now homes/hotels/deserted, and
are not tax exempt.

It is possible to import cheaper - and I do - but it has to be on
a 'goods exchanged under warranty' basis. Not all suppliers well do
this. I don't mind the 17? % VAT too much, but I don't like paying
tax twice and the Customs adding a further fee for acting as my Agent
to take my money off me, which takes a $129 item up to $244.

I think a lot of the problems in getting stuff for the mini-lathe is
that the suppliers here depend too much on shop sales (although spare
parts are not in shop) and are not yet into ordering on-line so much.
I have tried all the major suppliers here for a simple belt and was
told in December that it would be January. Today I got a letter
saying it would be February... So I am importing a couple of them.

It's only Mr Bliar who thinks we are still a World power.
Regards
Ken


US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

Capt Ken Appleby <[email protected]>
 

Hi Jerry,
The ones in the Thames estuary are largely dismantled except for a
couple of girders with navigation lights on them, and the ones in the
Solent (built in Napoleonic times) are now homes/hotels/deserted, and
are not tax exempt.

It is possible to import cheaper - and I do - but it has to be on
a 'goods exchanged under warranty' basis. Not all suppliers well do
this. I don't mind the 17? % VAT too much, but I don't like paying
tax twice and the Customs adding a further fee for acting as my Agent
to take my money off me, which takes a $129 item up to $244.

I think a lot of the problems in getting stuff for the mini-lathe is
that the suppliers here depend too much on shop sales (although spare
parts are not in shop) and are not yet into ordering on-line so much.
I have tried all the major suppliers here for a simple belt and was
told in December that it would be January. Today I got a letter
saying it would be February... So I am importing a couple of them.

It's only Mr Bliar who thinks we are still a World power.
Regards
Ken


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Jerry Smith <jfsmith@a...>
wrote:
Ken,
Are those "island nations" still on the WW II platforms in
the
Channel? They don't have any import taxes or duties. These days,
UPS
probably delivers to them, just an idea, that may benefit you.

Jerry

At 04:28 PM 12/28/2002 +0000, you wrote:
Hi,
If you want to know how lucky you guys in the US are, with your
$300
prices, the 'most - sold' version of the Mini Lathe in the UK is
the
Clarke CL300M and it costs ?683 but Machine Mart sells it for a low
<quote>Amazing Value</unguote> of ?469.94. Remember that is POUNDS
Sterling or $1.50 for each pound.


Re: speed way 7X12

 

Jmm well to stay in th relm of mini lathes,(7x's) I would probably
say a micro mark because of the true standard markings and intervals,
which makes for more accuracy IMO, although if money were not abject
I would go with a 9x20.

sean


n 7x12minilathe@..., "lokinb <lokinb@y...>" <lokinb@y...>
wrote:
First let me say thank you for all of your input..
Now I have just one more question for you all. at least one more
till
I actually get my Lathe.

If money was not a big deal, what mini lathe would you most like to
own? and why?

ok two questions.

I dont mean to be a pest or to monopolize the conversation, I just
like to be sure before I buy a tool that I am going to get the most
use out of it I can...

Thank you for your patience and advice, they are both apprieciated.
lokinb






--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Brice D. Hornback"
<bdh@c...>
wrote:
The "Speedway" is the Homier 7x12.



- Brice

----- Original Message -----
From: <lokinb@y...>
To: <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] speed way 7X12


Hi again

I found an auction on ebay for the 7X12 mini bench lathe made by
speed way.


ViewItem&item=3102472367&category=25288

Is tis a good choice at only 300.00 dolars I am not sure and
would
hate to buy it and have to buy another 6 months later cause it
wont
do all the things I want.

basically I want the lathe to do all the things a large lathe
can
just on a smaller scale.

turning theads on the outside as well as on the inside of a
piece.
shapeing and cutting.

any input you can give as to the suitability of this unit would
be
greatly appreciated.

thanks
Lokinb



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Re: US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

Jerry Smith
 

Ken,
Are those "island nations" still on the WW II platforms in the
Channel? They don't have any import taxes or duties. These days, UPS
probably delivers to them, just an idea, that may benefit you.

Jerry

At 04:28 PM 12/28/2002 +0000, you wrote:
Hi,
If you want to know how lucky you guys in the US are, with your $300
prices, the 'most - sold' version of the Mini Lathe in the UK is the
Clarke CL300M and it costs ?683 but Machine Mart sells it for a low
<quote>Amazing Value</unguote> of ?469.94. Remember that is POUNDS
Sterling or $1.50 for each pound.


US/UK prices & Re: speed way 7X12

Capt Ken Appleby <[email protected]>
 

Hi,
If you want to know how lucky you guys in the US are, with your $300
prices, the 'most - sold' version of the Mini Lathe in the UK is the
Clarke CL300M and it costs ?683 but Machine Mart sells it for a low
<quote>Amazing Value</unguote> of ?469.94. Remember that is POUNDS
Sterling or $1.50 for each pound.

$300 is only ?200!!! They all buy them from the same factory in China
too.

I recently wanted to buy a part from the States which you can't get
here. It would cost $129 for you. I would have to pay a further $56
Postage and then Import duty, VAT (Common Market tax) and a handling
fee for paying the Customs, making a total of $244!

The first time I went to the US (1952) we were getting $2.80 to the
?1 Pound - how times change. Enjoy it while you can...
Regards
Ken

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "lokinb <lokinb@y...>"
<lokinb@y...> wrote:
First let me say thank you for all of your input..
Now I have just one more question for you all. at least one more
till
I actually get my Lathe.

If money was not a big deal, what mini lathe would you most like to
own? and why?

ok two questions.

I dont mean to be a pest or to monopolize the conversation, I just
like to be sure before I buy a tool that I am going to get the most
use out of it I can...

Thank you for your patience and advice, they are both apprieciated.
lokinb






--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Brice D. Hornback"
<bdh@c...>
wrote:
The "Speedway" is the Homier 7x12.



- Brice

----- Original Message -----
From: <lokinb@y...>
To: <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] speed way 7X12


Hi again

I found an auction on ebay for the 7X12 mini bench lathe made by
speed way.


ViewItem&item=3102472367&category=25288

Is tis a good choice at only 300.00 dolars I am not sure and
would
hate to buy it and have to buy another 6 months later cause it
wont
do all the things I want.

basically I want the lathe to do all the things a large lathe
can
just on a smaller scale.

turning theads on the outside as well as on the inside of a
piece.
shapeing and cutting.

any input you can give as to the suitability of this unit would
be
greatly appreciated.

thanks
Lokinb



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Re: new to the group and looking to buy.

 

You will find a lot of usesul info at this link:



Frank Hoose


--- "lokinb <lokinb@...>" <lokinb@...>
wrote:
Hello to all.

I Just joined the group and am looking for advice on
which mini Lathe
and mill to buy.
I have been looking around and the prices seem about
the same for
most of them. I like the Micro mark 7X14 but I use
metric allot and
would prefer one with millimeter knobs on it.
Am looking to get the lathe first and then the mill.

Will be useing them for model making and for parts
replacement on the
instuments I work on for a living..

any advice you can give me would be great.
thanks in advance for your input.

Lokinb



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Re: speed way 7X12

 

First let me say thank you for all of your input..
Now I have just one more question for you all. at least one more till
I actually get my Lathe.

If money was not a big deal, what mini lathe would you most like to
own? and why?

ok two questions.

I dont mean to be a pest or to monopolize the conversation, I just
like to be sure before I buy a tool that I am going to get the most
use out of it I can...

Thank you for your patience and advice, they are both apprieciated.
lokinb






--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Brice D. Hornback" <bdh@c...>
wrote:
The "Speedway" is the Homier 7x12.



- Brice

----- Original Message -----
From: <lokinb@y...>
To: <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] speed way 7X12


Hi again

I found an auction on ebay for the 7X12 mini bench lathe made by
speed way.


ViewItem&item=3102472367&category=25288

Is tis a good choice at only 300.00 dolars I am not sure and would
hate to buy it and have to buy another 6 months later cause it
wont
do all the things I want.

basically I want the lathe to do all the things a large lathe can
just on a smaller scale.

turning theads on the outside as well as on the inside of a piece.
shapeing and cutting.

any input you can give as to the suitability of this unit would be
greatly appreciated.

thanks
Lokinb



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