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Thought I'd share my HF purchase experience. I printed out the word
file Homier.doc and took it to the HF in Greensboro,NC. The manager
said he could not honor the request because the sale wasn't current
(Homier no longer carries the saw). I told him that the HF policy was
to honor sale prices for a year. He said that wasnt true. Went home
and checked the Web site, where the "About Us" section clearly states
that policy. Called the manager back and had him look up the web
site. He again tried to not sell me the saw, saying that the policies
for the online store were different from the stores. I said that the
stores were supposed to honor anything the Web site advertised, and
he reluctantly said he would sell me the saw for 99.99 but only this
one time(That made zero sense to me, but heck I only need one saw).
Got the saw today, put it together, and it is GREAT. Havent replaced
the blade with the bimetal, and it still cuts great. Dead on square
and very smoothe. Most all the parts are cast, and it is made in
Taiwan(never thought I'd be saying that as a recommendation!) Good
blade guides. Motor seems fine.
Happy chipmaking
Steve

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--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., rob cropley <robcropley@y...>

Hey Steve,

Glad to hear you got the saw. I can't blame the HF Managers for not
wanting to sell their items at a reduced price, it cuts in to
their "Bottom Line" at the end of the year. However, they choose to
work for HF and even though they don't like honoring HFs policies,
they pretty much have to. As I said, I got my saw for $99.99 and tne
dollies that were originally $79.99 on sale for 1/2 price at $39.99
and with the Homier ad I got them for $19.99.

Hey Rob, check out the link below for Homiers web site.



Regards to All!!

BK

Hi BK,

I think you are abusing HF and misstating their polices.

The HF and Homier band saws aren't the same saw even if they look about
the same in the flyers.

Ed

Hello Ed,

I am sorry you feel that way. I checked all the specs that were sent
to me about the Homier saw and they were equivelant to the HF. The
speed rates, table size, weight, motor type etc. Every thing either
matched or was really close. The Harbor freight store manager looked
it all over real good and said that they were comparable saws, if
not He said he could not have price matched. And the same for the
Auto dollies. As a matter of fact some of the wording in the
specifacations was verbatim betwen the 2 ads. There was never a
problem with comparatability between the saws of=r the dollies, just
that thye HF manager was quoting his overhead. Due tio this, I do
beleive that the 2 saws are the sam or are of a comparitable make,
manufacture & quality.

I have a very clear conscious about the matter. If you have
disparaging evidence that disputes this, then by all means e-mail to
me or post on this board. If I agree with I will gladly admit my
wrong doing and will post a message condeming the use of the so
called Homier ad.

As always thogh, everybody has their own opinion and there are 2
sides to every story.

Good day
&
Regards to All!!!



BK

--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., Ed Beers <sreeb@b...> wrote:

Hi BK,

I think you are abusing HF and misstating their polices.

The HF and Homier band saws aren't the same saw even if they look

about

the same in the flyers.

Ed

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 08:59, bkfan2001 wrote:

Hey Steve,

Glad to hear you got the saw. I can't blame the HF Managers for

not

wanting to sell their items at a reduced price, it cuts in to
their "Bottom Line" at the end of the year. However, they choose

to

work for HF and even though they don't like honoring HFs

policies,

they pretty much have to. As I said, I got my saw for $99.99 and

tne

dollies that were originally $79.99 on sale for 1/2 price at

$39.99

and with the Homier ad I got them for $19.99.

Hey Rob, check out the link below for Homiers web site.



Regards to All!!

BK

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Service.

Sounds like 4x6 envy! 8-)

Wish I could have got my bandsaw for 99 Bucks!

There are several versions of this saw (at least 2). I looked at the saw
from Harbor Freight and from other dealers. I chose one from Rex Supply
because it has a heavier upper frame and cast iron blade guides. (hf has
pressed metal guides) But I think one is about as good as the other.

The main thing is you do not have to dread cutting metal (with a
hacksaw) anymore.

Leo (pearland, tx)

BK

The Homier saw is the same as the HF saw, except for some decals and paint,
I have one of each

Clint

Hi BK,

I don't have a problem with you doing it. I just don't think everyone
on the web should expect their local HF to cut them a deal like this.
If they want to price match fine, but I have seen some customers go a
little overboard in this respect...

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 14:47, bkfan2001 wrote:

I checked all the specs that were sent
to me about the Homier saw and they were equivelant to the HF. The
speed rates, table size, weight, motor type etc. Every thing either
matched or was really close.

You could say this about most of the HF tools and say a Makita. We all
know that, even though the appearance and hype are the same, the tools
are not the same.

There are plenty of past posts on how parts interchangeability between
the various saws is not good.

I think I recall reading that Homier was made in the PRC while my HF
unit was made in Taiwan. I could be wrong about this though as I have
never seen a Homier in the flesh.

Ed

Hi Ed,

I understand what you are talking about. I will even agree that the
saws may not be made by the same company, never implied that they
were. But I bet you that the price to HF & to Homier are with-in a
few cents of each other. These saws are a cheap in for the home shop
hobbist. Not running them down but they are the low end, entry level
machines and if there was that much of a difference in the costs to
the Wholesalers, then doesn't it stand to reason that all the tool
sellers would be buying from the same company. The basis was on
comparitability. As Clint pointed out in his post, both saws are the
same except for their decals etc.

One other thing about useing Homiers flyer to get a better price
from HF, is that HF would have to ship the item to me at their cost.
I was in the store so there were NO shipping fees for them to pay.
When you edit out the shipping costs HFs price starts getting down
inline with Homiers price. I wouldn't call up the store manager of
the HF store and ask him to send me the item at Homiers price with
HF paying the shipping.

If you will look through Homiers site and HFs site you will see
several items( Mill/drills, Sand Blasting Cabinets etc) that are
the same but the price is far apart, thats because of HFs policy of
free shipping with any purchase over $50. I feel that when I am
standing there in the store that the shipping should be discounted
from the price.

Best Regards to All!!

BK


--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., Ed Beers <sreeb@b...> wrote:

Hi BK,

I don't have a problem with you doing it. I just don't think

everyone

on the web should expect their local HF to cut them a deal like

this.

If they want to price match fine, but I have seen some customers

go a

little overboard in this respect...

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 14:47, bkfan2001 wrote:

I checked all the specs that were sent
to me about the Homier saw and they were equivelant to the HF.

The

speed rates, table size, weight, motor type etc. Every thing

either

matched or was really close.

You could say this about most of the HF tools and say a Makita.

We all

know that, even though the appearance and hype are the same, the

tools

are not the same.

There are plenty of past posts on how parts interchangeability

between

the various saws is not good.

I think I recall reading that Homier was made in the PRC while my

HF

unit was made in Taiwan. I could be wrong about this though as I

have

never seen a Homier in the flesh.

Ed

Thanks Clint!!

BK

The Homier saw is the same as the HF saw, except for some decals

and paint,

I have one of each

Clint

The main thing is you do not have to dread cutting metal (with a

hacksaw) anymore.

Leo (pearland, tx)

Right you are my friend, right you are. I couldn't agree with you
any more.

I don't mess with very big stock anyway(2' about max) however I am
planning on making a couple of pullies for my lathe and will need to
cut some 3 1/2 stock, and would rather have the smoother finish and
unwork-hardened surface that a torch or large chop saw would leave.

Also, I have a large(30" throat) Verticle Bandsaw purchased that I
am waiting to get moved to my shop if I decide I need to cut thick
flat or round stock.

I chose one from Rex Supply--- and cast iron blade guides. (hf has
pressed metal guides)

As far as the quality of the saw, this one came with the roller
blade guides that everyone tells me hardly ever wear out. I think as
long as I keep the machine clean, blade tight and don't try anything
stupid with it that this little saw will last me a good long time.

TTYL

Regards

BK


--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., dswr@w... wrote:

Sounds like 4x6 envy! 8-)

Wish I could have got my bandsaw for 99 Bucks!

There are several versions of this saw (at least 2). I looked at

the saw

from Harbor Freight and from other dealers. I chose one from Rex

Supply

because it has a heavier upper frame and cast iron blade guides.

(hf has

pressed metal guides) But I think one is about as good as the

other.

The main thing is you do not have to dread cutting metal (with a
hacksaw) anymore.

Leo (pearland, tx)

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, bkfan2001 wrote:

If you will look through Homiers site and HFs site you will see
several items( Mill/drills, Sand Blasting Cabinets etc) that are
the same but the price is far apart, thats because of HFs policy of
free shipping with any purchase over $50. I feel that when I am
standing there in the store that the shipping should be discounted
from the price.

One thing to keep in mind too, is that is costs money to stock an item
in a store because of the associated overhead. It's cheaper to stack a
bunch of boxes in a warehouse and ship from there to wherever than it is
to stock items in a store front. And if you go to the Homier store you
will see that the prices are higher than on their website or at their
travelling shows. It's not a big difference but it's there. When I got
my mini-lathe from the Homier store it was $329 instead of $299 listed on
their website. But even then it's still a bargain since you don't have to
pay for shipping or worry about what will be broken when it arrives.

C|

One thing I would suggest is to check the gear box for sand. This seems
to be a problem with some of these saws. Left inside, the worm and gear
will wear out prematurely. However, I checked mine and did not have this
problem. It was manufactured in Taiwan.

I think all these saws have ball bearing guides for the blade. The
difference is that some have pressed steel (or aluminum) holders for
these bearings, while other have cast iron holders.

The big advantage, that I have found, and one you have to get used to,
is cutting off the stock near the finished length of the part. With a
hacksaw, the cuts were mostly crooked so I had to leave considerable
stock to face off to be sure it would not be short.

Love my saw!

Leo (pearland, tx)

Leo

One thing I would suggest is to check the gear box for sand. This seems
to be a problem with some of these saws. Left inside, the worm and gear
will wear out prematurely. However, I checked mine and did not have this
problem. It was manufactured in Taiwan.

Man, you hit the nail on the head, it is an excellent idea to clean out the
gear oil and make sure there is no casting sand an use fresh oil. One of
mine did have sand in it while th eother did hardly have any

One other thing to check is when you do take the old oil out is to check th
ebore locations for th egear shafts, sometimes they get these off a little
and the gears do not match close enough, thi scan cause them to strip when
the blade snags.

I put a brace and a bearing on the blade pully at the adjusting end as to
not allow side pressure when the blade is tightened. Th ebearings for the
shafts are in the middle of the shaft and not on th eends and will alow
tilting of the worm gear from the drive gear
If anyone would like, I can shoot over an email to you showing the
modification. Pretty simple to do

Clint

I think all these saws have ball bearing guides for the blade. The
difference is that some have pressed steel (or aluminum) holders for
these bearings, while other have cast iron holders.

The big advantage, that I have found, and one you have to get used to,
is cutting off the stock near the finished length of the part. With a
hacksaw, the cuts were mostly crooked so I had to leave considerable
stock to face off to be sure it would not be short.

Love my saw!

Leo (pearland, tx)




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Hey Clint,

Fire away, I'd like to see the mod you are talking about.

Thanks to Leo & Clint both for the 411 on checking for loose casting
sand.

Regards

BK

I put a brace and a bearing on the blade pully at the adjusting

end as to

not allow side pressure when the blade is tightened. Th ebearings

for the

shafts are in the middle of the shaft and not on th eends and will

alow

tilting of the worm gear from the drive gear
If anyone would like, I can shoot over an email to you showing the
modification. Pretty simple to do

Clint