Bill
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X2 on the no Facebook idea. I don’t know enough about the computerie stuff
to help, but I do enjoy the suggestions and technical advice and as stated
before am more than willing to kick in if we decide to go to a paid group.
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Carl H SMSgt USAF (Ret)
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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group
Storage?
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I do not and will not use Facebook.? Someone else will have to do that
if it's how the group decides to go. I have been told by several people that the
Facebook format is not good for a group like ours. It works better for current
events and idle chitchat, but is difficult to find older info in. I don't know
that from personal experience, however.
?
Bill in OKC
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William R. Meyers,
MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be
able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building,
write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a
tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
?
?
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On Friday, December 18, 2020, 08:21:24 AM CST, WHEELER GREEN
<sparco505@...> wrote:
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How about starting the group in Facebook?
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From: Zachary McAtee <zmmcatee@hotmailcom>
Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?
? Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an
option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove.
15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing
this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is
owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods
and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t
stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta
cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf
version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time
and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate
on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on
this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is
certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a
design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you
guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for
everyone.?
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On 12/18/2020 6:43 AM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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I do not and will not use Facebook.? Someone else will
have to do that if it's how the group decides to go. I have
been told by several people that the Facebook format is not
good for a group like ours. It works better for current
events and idle chitchat, but is difficult to find older
info in. I don't know that from personal experience,
however.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A
human being should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog,
conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance
accounts, build a
wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch
manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG
(Robert A. Heinlein)
On Friday, December 18, 2020, 08:21:24 AM CST, WHEELER
GREEN <sparco505@...> wrote:
How about starting the group in Facebook??
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smartphone
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Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do
About Group Storage?
Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an
option... linked, stickied, granted authority for
anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I
appreciate everyone here who is contributing and
managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit
for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by
people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t
need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have
to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s
antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I
needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a
more quality piece so I bought the hf version and
immediately needed to make some mods which were all
essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you
have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some
level and almost certainly have the skills to figure
out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple
setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a
time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or
mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth
paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I
hope everything works out in the best possible way for
everyone.?
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Some one said….“NO to Facebook. They're in the censoring business.“
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They are not in the “censoring business”, and nothing that would BELONG in this group is ever likely to be censored even if they were.
But I would also say no to “FB”, but because they are essentially useless, unless you are using their “APP”. {And perhaps if you are using it too.}
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I agree ?with Bill my wife bitches constantly about not finding something that she saw the day before on Facebook.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Bill in OKC too via groups.io" <wmrmeyers@...> Date: 12/18/2020 8:43 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage? I do not and will not use Facebook.? Someone else will have to do that if it's how the group decides to go. I have been told by several people that the Facebook format is not good for a group like ours. It works better for current events and idle chitchat, but is difficult to find older info in. I don't know that from personal experience, however.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Friday, December 18, 2020, 08:21:24 AM CST, WHEELER GREEN <sparco505@...> wrote:
How about starting the group in Facebook??
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Zachary McAtee <zmmcatee@...> Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?
Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?
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?No to Facebook as well. I’m on it and it’s definitely not a good platform.?
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I do not and will not use Facebook.? Someone else will have to do that if it's how the group decides to go. I have been told by several people that the Facebook format is not good for a group like ours. It works better for current events and idle chitchat, but is difficult to find older info in. I don't know that from personal experience, however.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Friday, December 18, 2020, 08:21:24 AM CST, WHEELER GREEN <sparco505@...> wrote:
How about starting the group in Facebook??
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Zachary McAtee <zmmcatee@...> Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?
Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?
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If it's on the internet, regardless the platform, its censored.
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NO to Facebook. They're in the censoring business. On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 8:21 AM WHEELER GREEN < sparco505@...> wrote: How about starting the group in Facebook??
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-------- Original message -------- Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?
Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?
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NO to Facebook. They're in the censoring business.
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 8:21 AM WHEELER GREEN < sparco505@...> wrote: How about starting the group in Facebook??
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-------- Original message -------- Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?
Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?
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How about starting the group in Facebook??
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Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?
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Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?
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As Dave alludes to the group needs agressive weeding of pointless pictures and useless postings. This thread will be valueless in two months and should be deleted.?I don't know how it is done but I would be prepared to help with that.
The value of this and the old Yahoo group has only ever been as a file cache for upgrade and repair data, manuals etc?along with the necessary instructions in associated threads. For general advice and chit chat, especially off topic, there are much better vehicles in the HSM and Model engineer forums. For mindless 'ooh look I''ve got one' banality there is probably a Facebook group.
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I am one of the 32. I voted to keep it free as a simple resource. ?I have had a look at some of the photos from a size perspective. I have only looked at about 60 photos of goodness know how many and I note that the amount of room that photos take up ranges from 56Kb to 2.4Mb. The photos at 56Kb are blurry?or grainy?and therefore of limited value. The photos?in the range of 2.4Mb are of no better quality on my screen?than the ones at about 150Kb in size. From a resource perspective, 150Kb is all you need to visualize someone's work to improve their saws. I would not be happy to remove someone's photos they have seen fit to share, but, I would condone replacing them with much smaller sized versions. This will allow a significant number of additional photos to be stored.
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
I've just this evening read the following from a member of another non IO group, about the IO group he manages. It appears it would behove us to move quickly! I've copied this from a post by Russell C on the model engine group. This is presented as a communication from
For groups upgraded after Monday, January 18th, 2021 at 9am Pacific Time, the pricing plans will be based on the number of members in the group. The base costs of the different existing plans are not changing. The change is that above a certain number of members, the per member pricing kicks in. Here is the run down:
Free
Up to 100 members
1GB storage
Single mailing list only
Premium
Starting at $20/month or $220/year
Up to 400 members, then $0.05/member/month or $0.55/member/year for each member above that
30GB storage
Subgroups
Collaboration Suite
Donations
Direct Add
Enterprise
Starting at $200/month or $2200/year
Up to 1000 members, then $0.20/member/month or $2.20/member/year for each member above that
1TB storage
Enterprise features
Notes:
These changes only apply to groups upgraded after January 18th, 2021 at 9am Pacific Time; existing premium and enterprise groups will keep their legacy pricing. If a premium group opts to downgrade and then upgrades at some point in the future, they will be subject to the new pricing changes.
The non-profit Enterprise discount will continue; $100/month or $1100/year, with the per member pricing being either $0.10/member/month or $1.10/member/year.
The plan price is calculated using the member count at the time of invoice, either monthly or yearly. For this calculation, a member is defined as a confirmed, non-pending, non-banned member of your main group.
Premium groups will now have 30GB storage. Existing premium groups will get this storage bump as well.
The 100 member limit for free groups only applies to groups that are created after January 18th, 2021 at 9am Pacific Time. Existing free groups will be unchanged.
If a group created after January 18th, 2021 at 9am Pacific Time upgrades to premium, gains more than 100 members, and then later downgrades back to free, the group will be locked until the member list is reduced to 100 members.
Some very large groups recently transferred from Yahoo to us. I requested that they sign up for the existing Enterprise plan. If any additional very large groups transfer over before January 18th, 2021, I reserve the right to also ask that they sign up for the existing Enterprise plan.Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks,
Mark
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Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?
Forgot to mention
You have to remove the counterbalance spring before you can take off the pivot arm casting.
With head vertical, the spring always comes off if you unscrew the adjustment handle enough. However on some saws the eye bolt connecting the handle and spring is too short and the spring snaps off.? Its then v.v. difficult to re-stretch the spring to fit.?
If you grab the spring hook in the vice and bend it sideways (per pic) you can insert thin washers on alternate sides to lengthen it for refitting. About 10-15 per side are all that's needed - jv??
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Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?
Sounds like it's coming together Dave. You need the shaft to be a nice no-wiggle rotating fit in the pivot arm casting (and in the RHS of the sawframe too of course) You can to take the pivot arm casting off the existing pivot shaft with the sawframe horizontal resting on its stop and it remains stable (pic1). That way you can try the fit of the new shaft on the pivot arm casting before you do any machining. Use whichever?shaft (new or old one) has the best fit. As I said in the?writeup, the old shaft was too tight on the pivot arm casting of my old saw so I had to relieve it ever so slightly with wet&dry paper.? However on another saw I'm working on (made by the same manufacturer), the pivot arm casting is quite sloppy on its existing pivot shaft. I might have to turn a shaft out of?something bigger to?get the right fit.?? Also different shafting has different diameter tolerances, so it will pay to check before you do anything.? ? These things are just not rigid.? Castings look solid but they're all elastic.? When you undo to the joint between?the pivot arm casting and the saw frame don't be surprised if it springs apart (pic2).? Of course removing it to check the fit will upset the horizontal squareness.? You can help yourself at reassembly and re-aligning time by putting in some adjustment screws into the edge of the pivot arm casting (pic3).? I used?M6, because that's normal here, but you should use?3/16 or 1/4" UNF rather than UNC if you have the tap (UNC is still heaps better than not doing it though!).? Note:? - one in from each side.
- I just eyeballed it and drew lines on the casting with a pencil for where to?drill?
- These?2 screws replace the difficult-to- make adjustment?plate Rick and I both made versions of.? It's something that I did in 5min each on the mill (pic4)
- I replaced?the soft metric headed 5/16UNC bolts in the pivot arm with SHCS's?that?have 3/4" unthreaded shank and cut to length,so the adjustment?screws are not bearing on threads (can see in the 1st pic)
- Uses a 6mm thick clamp plate (65mm long, holes 40mm apart, starting 10mm in from one end and 10mm in from edge of 25mm wide strap), rather than using the std thick washers, because I needed to mill/file out the slots to get the saw to cut horizontally square, Need to round the edges of the plate to clear fillets in the casting (also pic 1)?
While you're at it do the same mod (that Rick devised) to the back of each guide bracket (pic5).? It is SOOO useful in setting up, as you don't lose the back support roller setting when setting the angle of the blade square to the vice table. Just drop into the milling vice and line up by eye. Another?10 min well spent? Have at it - jv
Hi John,
I've been going through your paper on how to square my saw.? ?I worked on the vise slot to make the slot thickness consistent.? My slot thickness was tapered about 0.080" from from the stationary vise jaw to the slot nearest to the hand wheel.? ?It took some effort, but I filed it down to a reasonably flat surface.? ?My acme nut is not at the table height so I just left it as is.? ?I readjusted my blade angle so it is vertical to the bed.? ?When I put my saw on the new stand, things shifted a little bit.
I have some cold rolled 5/8" steel rod, so I'll just make a new shaft to fix the vertical alignment issues.? ?I bought a stick of 1"x4" MDF to provide plenty of stock to make cuts and measurements.? This work will have to wait until the weekend.? ?My day tomorrow will be completely full of home projects.
Thanks again for writing this all up!
Dave
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Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?
Hi John,
I've been going through your paper on how to square my saw.? ?I worked on the vise slot to make the slot thickness consistent.? My slot thickness was tapered about 0.080" from from the stationary vise jaw to the slot nearest to the hand wheel.? ?It took some effort, but I filed it down to a reasonably flat surface.? ?My acme nut is not at the table height so I just left it as is.? ?I readjusted my blade angle so it is vertical to the bed.? ?When I put my saw on the new stand, things shifted a little bit.
I have some cold rolled 5/8" steel rod, so I'll just make a new shaft to fix the vertical alignment issues.? ?I bought a stick of 1"x4" MDF to provide plenty of stock to make cuts and measurements.? This work will have to wait until the weekend.? ?My day tomorrow will be completely full of home projects.
Thanks again for writing this all up!
Dave
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
This link should take you to the poll:? /g/4x6bandsaw/topic/what_should_we_do_about_group/78932903?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,78932903You may need to log in to use it. If so, it should offer you the chance to create on if you don't have one yet. HTH! Bill in OKC
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
Bill,
? I also could not find the poll, but I will vote here if that is
possible. I am for it and I will contribute as soon as I know who to send it
to.
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Carl H (SMSgt USAF Ret.)
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From: Bill in OKC too via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re:
Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
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Just
in case the Poll email doesn't display to everyone, I've asked everyone who
participates in the group to take the poll. So far, only 32 people have done so.
That is less than 1% of the members registered. I've also set the size of photos
that can be uploaded or attached to be resized to 1024x1024 pixels. That is
probably not going to be very satisfactory for my crappy old eyes, anymore.
Especially on my phone. I hope it helps the rest of you
Bill in OKC
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I’m a long time lurker.
I don’t see how to contribute some money. ?Let me know and I’ll paypal some over.
-Bill Kahn
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I'm a new moderator here, Ralph, not the owner, who asked for help. Can't do it on my own.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, December 17, 2020, 09:06:19 AM CST, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
Bill just publish a paypal account and let that be your poll!!
Ralph
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:09 PM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers= [email protected]> wrote: Well, we've had 32 people including myself take the poll. Less than 1% of the group. I thank those of you who took the time to vote, even if you don't want to contribute. I've looked at the photos, and I'm not seeing much of anything I think should not be preserved. IIRC, we have over 4300 members. If you lurk, or participate, but have not yet taken the poll, would you please do so??
I cannot do this by myself. Joe cannot do it by himself. We need some help here, folks! And if you have photos in an album that you don't think we need on the group anymore, would you please remove them? If you cannot get them to go, tell me about in a private email and I'll try to do it for you. You can email me at wmrmeyers (at) sbcglobal (dot) net or (at) yahoo (dot) com
Bill in OKC
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Bill in OKC too
John Vreede
