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Re: Latest Ravelry kerfuffle


 

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That¡¯s a really good point, Nilda. Not a great time to play with people¡¯s comfort blankies.???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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I once met a someone who worked with a very well known potato crisp company over here. She said their R and D and marketing were always determined to ¡°improve¡± the brand, but the problem was that the core markets, the regular buyers, liked the product exactly as it was¡­¡­.exactly the New Coke scenario.

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You do get people who are so blinded by their own? wonderful vision that they miss the practicalities and realities of it.

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Jenny

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And oh yes, I remember Lizard Ridge. I recall this group made several spectacular ones,

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nilda
Sent: 02 August 2020 08:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yarnmongers] Latest Ravelry kerfuffle

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I think part of what¡¯s going on is that people are stressed out and they turn to Ravelry and it¡¯s not cozy and familiar but jarring snd even painful and they are angry to lose a source of comfort in very awful times and to have friends lose it as well. Plus Rav clearly dropped the ball, dug in, were hostile or non-empathetic so only heightened the effect. It¡¯s easier to be upset at NuRav than deal with the world today. Not to minimize at all the real concerns and effects on many. It¡¯s like New Coke. Coke rolled it out and nearly lost the brand till they walked it all back. ?People missed the comfort of their soda. Took a few years to undo the damage but it worked. Unclear how long it takes for the Rav team.?

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I downloaded in the meantime and went back and deleted the foreign language translations. What a trip - Lizard Ridge anyone?

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Nilda


On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:11 AM, Amy Brotslaw Schweiger <brotslaw@...> wrote:

?I don¡¯t think Ravelry is going anywhere. I¡¯d be surprised if more than 1% of the users were even aware of what¡¯s happening.?

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No doubt they bungled they redesign, and people had serious issues, and the ableism on display made it far far worse. On the other hand, when Facebook it Twitter does a redesign, do the users get their complaints heard? Has there ever been a rollback to a previous design? My beloved Scrabble app was sold to a new developer who has completely ruined it and which runs blaringly loud migraine-inducing ads between each turn - but they have paid no attention to the widespread complaints from the long-time users. IMHO (or IMHOP to quote the late JunieAnn), there¡¯s a lot of pearl clutching going on. (And if you hadn¡¯t heard, sadly she did pass away).?

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Amy

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On Aug 1, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Jenny Swanson <jenny@...> wrote:

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Are you all telling me that thins are so bad we need to do a bulk download ASAP? Is that not just going to hasten a possibly avoidable end?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jaya Srikrishnan
Sent: 01 August 2020 22:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yarnmongers] Latest Ravelry kerfuffle

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I¡¯m no help as I haven¡¯t tried it but there is another archived thread in FTLOR about it with lots of posts from people who have done it.?

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On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:21 PM mary_007usa via <sewgood5=[email protected]> wrote:

I just watched the download video (I can't believe I'm engaged in bulk downloads so soon after the Bluprint debacle, but here we are.

I've checked and I do have the latest version of Chrome and have installed the DownThemAll Extension which is the one used in the YouTube video here:?
but it certainly doesn't function in quite the same way, so (of course!) I'm having a bit of trouble getting those pdf's to download.

It just has to be a setting (I've selected documents which includes pdf's) that I haven't selected.

I'm going to give it another try tomorrow morning when I'm a bit fresher!

Thanks for the explanations and the skinny on the Rav Mess.

I need to learn how to use that extension anyway!

Mary.

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Jaya

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