Re: My new X6100 arrived today
Ok, if that¡¯s how it¡¯s supposed to work then mine is working fine.? But even a Beofeng charger will change color when changing is finished, every charger I have seems to do that except my X6100.
I forgot to mention: ?The battery charging indicator light does seem to be working as intended.? Lithium battery chargers work in two stages: they start off with constant current charging (during which the indicator light on the X6100 blinks) and finish with constant voltage charging (during which the indicator light stays lit).? And, according to Radioddity, the indicator remains lit even after full charge as a reminder that the charger is enabled.
More from Radioddity: ?
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Bob
KD2TTM
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Re: My new X6100 arrived today
I forgot to mention: ?The battery charging indicator light does seem to be working as intended. ?Lithium battery chargers work in two stages: they start off with constant current charging (during which the indicator light on the X6100 blinks) and finish with constant voltage charging (during which the indicator light stays lit). ?And, according to Radioddity, the indicator remains lit even after full charge as a reminder that the charger is enabled.
More from Radioddity: ?
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Bob
KD2TTM
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Re: My new X6100 arrived today
From the January 19, 2024 extended directions from Radioddity:
7.8 Charging the battery pack
If the voltage of the internal battery pack drops below 7.4 V during operation, the Xiegu X6100 temporarily deactivates the transmission function. If the voltage drops below 7.2 V, the Xiegu X6100 will switch off completely to protect the internal battery pack from excessive discharge. ?(bold-italic emphasis?mine)
I WAS following the directions from the beginning, in Section 7.8 (which make no mention of cycling the battery) but when I saw that the voltage?had dropped lower than the reading that those direction implied was damaging, I stopped it! ?The procedure for cycling the battery wasn't in the body of the instructions, but in an addendum. ?You make it sound like I disregarded the instructions. ?In fact, I read them carefully and when things weren't going as they were described, I played it safe and stopped.
Bob KD2TTM
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Re: My new X6100 arrived today
No. The batteries are still not discharged at 3.45 volts you must let them discharge till the radio shuts off you will not damage the batteries as the radio knows that 6 volts is the bottom where it shuts off. You should have followed the instructions from the beginning. The charging circuit needs to learn the battery capabilities. You charge the battery till the lightning bolt in the display goes away which means the battery is fully charged and should read 8.1 or 8.2 volts. Then turn the radio on and run it all the way to shut off. You should do this four times and don't stop in the middle of it and do something else with the radio. The initial battery preparation for this radio is kind of convoluted but they do have instructions.
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Re: My new X6100 arrived today
I read about cycling the battery in the X6100 so I left mine running on the internal battery this morning. ?I thought it would do an auto-shut down at 7.2V, but I got as low as 7.1V (briefly dipping to as low as 6.7V when I keyed the mike) without the battery icon turning red or the unit shutting down. ?It's currently still chugging along at 7.2V. ?I'll update if it ever shuts itself down! ?:-)
Update: ?The X6100 voltage got down to 6.9V and the battery icon did turn red but the radio never automatically shut down. ?I turned it off at this point for fear of damaging?the lithium battery. If the cells are lithium ion, then dropping to voltage that low ?(3.45V per cell) can be hazardous, right? ?Now, I'm worried...
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Bob
KD2TTM
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
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On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 18:04 K8SAS < k8sas73@...> wrote: Lisa,
Oh boy those rabbit ear antennas. Brought back memories of wrapping foil on them too. Thanks!
73,
Steve
On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:02 PM, "Lisa WO?L" < lr7521061@...> wrote:
Lol, your description kinda reminds me of when I was very young watching my father adopt very strange postures while holding a set of rabbit ears so we could watch a tv show.? Ahh.. good times?
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 17:59 Charles M- KG5EEL via <chazcom= [email protected]> wrote:
Lisa has a good point we use them to help train people and are normally going from point to point most of the time which means you have to be communicating with a person you know on the wpm and same freq etc..
If you are trying to listen and decode a random CW conversation then you need to face north stand on one foot hold your breath for a few secs and they might work.
Just joking on that.....
Some work alot better than others but require some effort for sure
73
Charles
KG5EEL
I¡¯ve yet to see a decoder worth a darn, the one in my FTDX-10 included.? Unless you are in a high signal to noise ratio with no qsb environment¡ AND you have the speed of the decoder matched exactly or very closely to the incoming speed they just spit out gibberish.? I¡¯ve yet to see one that could out copy even my tired old ears.? I think that at their current state of development (which hasn¡¯t improved very much since they first came out), they¡¯re not much more than a novelty and really shouldn¡¯t be relied upon for anything other than trying to impress non-hams.? Idk, maybe if they throw much more computing power at them or make a serious effort to write better software or maybe put A.I. on the case they may become what we¡¯d like them to be.? Until then, your brain is the best decoder in existence.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 17:17 Charles M- KG5EEL via <chazcom= [email protected]> wrote:
Dennis,
You may or may not know but
There are several software apps that may help you with using the X6100 and a good cw decoder and they are very easy to see for older eyes especially.
MRP40, CwGet, CW decoder and hamradio deluxe among others.
All these require a computer of course but if you want to use a software application that works regardless of the built-in radio functions these work great.
Just trying to spread some joy.
73
Charles
KG5EEL
My X6100 has the latest software installed. None of the subject functions work on this radio.?
Is there a software version that does allow operation of the?CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have asked this same question of the Radioddity support as well as on several other forums and have received no response.
One thing is for sure, after having spent $600 on a radio that does not work properly, there is no way in hell I'll spend a like amount, or more on a new model that will likely do the same thing! Especially given that the manufacture apparently does not care that their product doesnt work.
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have found a very capable CW decoder called "Morse Expert" by the author of CW skimmer. It uses Bayesian statistics to predict what was sent when a letter is not 100% sure (the letter will be red). It even guesses whole words with a slight delay. It adapts to speed changes rapidly. I have used it with the CWOPS CWT where people routinely go more than 30 wpm. It may only be available for Android.
Gary
W9TD
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
Lisa,
Oh boy those rabbit ear antennas. Brought back memories of wrapping foil on them too. Thanks!
73,
Steve
Lol, your description kinda reminds me of when I was very young watching my father adopt very strange postures while holding a set of rabbit ears so we could watch a tv show.? Ahh.. good times?
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 17:59 Charles M- KG5EEL via <chazcom= [email protected]> wrote:
Lisa has a good point we use them to help train people and are normally going from point to point most of the time which means you have to be communicating with a person you know on the wpm and same freq etc..
If you are trying to listen and decode a random CW conversation then you need to face north stand on one foot hold your breath for a few secs and they might work.
Just joking on that.....
Some work alot better than others but require some effort for sure
73
Charles
KG5EEL
I¡¯ve yet to see a decoder worth a darn, the one in my FTDX-10 included.? Unless you are in a high signal to noise ratio with no qsb environment¡ AND you have the speed of the decoder matched exactly or very closely to the incoming speed they just spit out gibberish.? I¡¯ve yet to see one that could out copy even my tired old ears.? I think that at their current state of development (which hasn¡¯t improved very much since they first came out), they¡¯re not much more than a novelty and really shouldn¡¯t be relied upon for anything other than trying to impress non-hams.? Idk, maybe if they throw much more computing power at them or make a serious effort to write better software or maybe put A.I. on the case they may become what we¡¯d like them to be.? Until then, your brain is the best decoder in existence.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 17:17 Charles M- KG5EEL via <chazcom= [email protected]> wrote:
Dennis,
You may or may not know but
There are several software apps that may help you with using the X6100 and a good cw decoder and they are very easy to see for older eyes especially.
MRP40, CwGet, CW decoder and hamradio deluxe among others.
All these require a computer of course but if you want to use a software application that works regardless of the built-in radio functions these work great.
Just trying to spread some joy.
73
Charles
KG5EEL
My X6100 has the latest software installed. None of the subject functions work on this radio.?
Is there a software version that does allow operation of the?CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have asked this same question of the Radioddity support as well as on several other forums and have received no response.
One thing is for sure, after having spent $600 on a radio that does not work properly, there is no way in hell I'll spend a like amount, or more on a new model that will likely do the same thing! Especially given that the manufacture apparently does not care that their product doesnt work.
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
Lol, your description kinda reminds me of when I was very young watching my father adopt very strange postures while holding a set of rabbit ears so we could watch a tv show.? Ahh.. good times?
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 17:59 Charles M- KG5EEL via <chazcom= [email protected]> wrote:
Lisa has a good point we use them to help train people and are normally going from point to point most of the time which means you have to be communicating with a person you know on the wpm and same freq etc..
If you are trying to listen and decode a random CW conversation then you need to face north stand on one foot hold your breath for a few secs and they might work.
Just joking on that.....
Some work alot better than others but require some effort for sure
73
Charles
KG5EEL
I¡¯ve yet to see a decoder worth a darn, the one in my FTDX-10 included.? Unless you are in a high signal to noise ratio with no qsb environment¡ AND you have the speed of the decoder matched exactly or very closely to the incoming speed they just spit out gibberish.? I¡¯ve yet to see one that could out copy even my tired old ears.? I think that at their current state of development (which hasn¡¯t improved very much since they first came out), they¡¯re not much more than a novelty and really shouldn¡¯t be relied upon for anything other than trying to impress non-hams.? Idk, maybe if they throw much more computing power at them or make a serious effort to write better software or maybe put A.I. on the case they may become what we¡¯d like them to be.? Until then, your brain is the best decoder in existence.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 17:17 Charles M- KG5EEL via <chazcom= [email protected]> wrote:
Dennis,
You may or may not know but
There are several software apps that may help you with using the X6100 and a good cw decoder and they are very easy to see for older eyes especially.
MRP40, CwGet, CW decoder and hamradio deluxe among others.
All these require a computer of course but if you want to use a software application that works regardless of the built-in radio functions these work great.
Just trying to spread some joy.
73
Charles
KG5EEL
My X6100 has the latest software installed. None of the subject functions work on this radio.?
Is there a software version that does allow operation of the?CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have asked this same question of the Radioddity support as well as on several other forums and have received no response.
One thing is for sure, after having spent $600 on a radio that does not work properly, there is no way in hell I'll spend a like amount, or more on a new model that will likely do the same thing! Especially given that the manufacture apparently does not care that their product doesnt work.
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
Charles,
I face South and never have a problem.
Good one!
73,
Steve
Lisa has a good point we use them to help train people and are normally going from point to point most of the time which means you have to be communicating with a person you know on the wpm and same freq etc..
If you are trying to listen and decode a random CW conversation then you need to face north stand on one foot hold your breath for a few secs and they might work.
Just joking on that.....
Some work alot better than others but require some effort for sure
73
Charles
KG5EEL
On 1/31/24, 5:47 PM "Lisa WO?L via groups.io" <lr7521061@...> wrote:
I¡¯ve yet to see a decoder worth a darn, the one in my FTDX-10 included.? Unless you are in a high signal to noise ratio with no qsb environment¡ AND you have the speed of the decoder matched exactly or very closely to the incoming speed they just spit out gibberish.? I¡¯ve yet to see one that could out copy even my tired old ears.? I think that at their current state of development (which hasn¡¯t improved very much since they first came out), they¡¯re not much more than a novelty and really shouldn¡¯t be relied upon for anything other than trying to impress non-hams.? Idk, maybe if they throw much more computing power at them or make a serious effort to write better software or maybe put A.I. on the case they may become what we¡¯d like them to be.? Until then, your brain is the best decoder in existence.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 17:17 Charles M- KG5EEL via <chazcom= [email protected]> wrote:
Dennis,
You may or may not know but
There are several software apps that may help you with using the X6100 and a good cw decoder and they are very easy to see for older eyes especially.
MRP40, CwGet, CW decoder and hamradio deluxe among others.
All these require a computer of course but if you want to use a software application that works regardless of the built-in radio functions these work great.
Just trying to spread some joy.
73
Charles
KG5EEL
My X6100 has the latest software installed. None of the subject functions work on this radio.?
Is there a software version that does allow operation of the?CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have asked this same question of the Radioddity support as well as on several other forums and have received no response.
One thing is for sure, after having spent $600 on a radio that does not work properly, there is no way in hell I'll spend a like amount, or more on a new model that will likely do the same thing! Especially given that the manufacture apparently does not care that their product doesnt work.
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
Lisa has a good point we use them to help train people and are normally going from point to point most of the time which means you have to be communicating with a person you know on the wpm and same freq etc..
If you are trying to listen and decode a random CW conversation then you need to face north stand on one foot hold your breath for a few secs and they might work.
Just joking on that.....
Some work alot better than others but require some effort for sure
73
Charles
KG5EEL
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On 1/31/24, 5:47 PM "Lisa WO?L via groups.io" <lr7521061@...> wrote:
I¡¯ve yet to see a decoder worth a darn, the one in my FTDX-10 included.? Unless you are in a high signal to noise ratio with no qsb environment¡ AND you have the speed of the decoder matched exactly or very closely to the incoming speed they just spit out gibberish.? I¡¯ve yet to see one that could out copy even my tired old ears.? I think that at their current state of development (which hasn¡¯t improved very much since they first came out), they¡¯re not much more than a novelty and really shouldn¡¯t be relied upon for anything other than trying to impress non-hams.? Idk, maybe if they throw much more computing power at them or make a serious effort to write better software or maybe put A.I. on the case they may become what we¡¯d like them to be.? Until then, your brain is the best decoder in existence.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 17:17 Charles M- KG5EEL via <chazcom= [email protected]> wrote:
Dennis,
You may or may not know but
There are several software apps that may help you with using the X6100 and a good cw decoder and they are very easy to see for older eyes especially.
MRP40, CwGet, CW decoder and hamradio deluxe among others.
All these require a computer of course but if you want to use a software application that works regardless of the built-in radio functions these work great.
Just trying to spread some joy.
73
Charles
KG5EEL
My X6100 has the latest software installed. None of the subject functions work on this radio.?
Is there a software version that does allow operation of the?CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have asked this same question of the Radioddity support as well as on several other forums and have received no response.
One thing is for sure, after having spent $600 on a radio that does not work properly, there is no way in hell I'll spend a like amount, or more on a new model that will likely do the same thing! Especially given that the manufacture apparently does not care that their product doesnt work.
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Re: My new X6100 arrived today
Mine blinks sometimes, sometimes it doesn¡¯t, even when it does it stops blinking and goes solid long before the battery is topped off.
I left the charger on the radio overnight after receiving it yesterday.? I used it outside on internal battery power this morning until it got down to 7.4V and then ran it for a while indoors on my Bioenno LiFePo 12V battery.? I just hooked up the DC charge cord with the radio set to charge "on" and the charge light came on but is not blinking.? After a while, I disconnected it to take a look at the on-board battery voltage and it was up to 7.8V.? I'll let it charge all night again.? But I'm disappointed the charge indicator doesn't work properly. ?:-(
I love the radio otherwise.? The bands were great today.? I made one contact to a POTA activator in Georgia and he gave me a 5-9+10 signal report.? He was pretty surprised when I told him I was transmitting with 5 watts of power!
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Bob
KD2TTM
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
Richard
I used the Icom 7100 as the radio selection and whatever port you have for your cat and sound card basically same settings as WSJTX if you have that working.
There are some good YouTube videos I'll try to a link on some of I can find them again.
73
Chas
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On 1/31/24, 5:19 PM "VE2DX via groups.io" <ve2dx@...> wrote:
How did you get hard going?
73
Richard VE2DX
VE2DX Electronics
President and lead designer
WWW.VE2DX.COM
Dennis,
You may or may not know but
There are several software apps that may help you with using the X6100 and a good cw decoder and they are very easy to see for older eyes especially.
MRP40, CwGet, CW decoder and hamradio deluxe among others.
All these require a computer of course but if you want to use a software application that works regardless of the built-in radio functions these work great.
Just trying to spread some joy.
73
Charles
KG5EEL
On 1/31/24, 9:55 AM "Dennis via groups.io" <spike.dennis@...> wrote:
My X6100 has the latest software installed. None of the subject functions work on this radio.?
Is there a software version that does allow operation of the?CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have asked this same question of the Radioddity support as well as on several other forums and have received no response.
One thing is for sure, after having spent $600 on a radio that does not work properly, there is no way in hell I'll spend a like amount, or more on a new model that will likely do the same thing! Especially given that the manufacture apparently does not care that their product doesnt work.
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I¡¯ve yet to see a decoder worth a darn, the one in my FTDX-10 included.? Unless you are in a high signal to noise ratio with no qsb environment¡ AND you have the speed of the decoder matched exactly or very closely to the incoming speed they just spit out gibberish.? I¡¯ve yet to see one that could out copy even my tired old ears.? I think that at their current state of development (which hasn¡¯t improved very much since they first came out), they¡¯re not much more than a novelty and really shouldn¡¯t be relied upon for anything other than trying to impress non-hams.? Idk, maybe if they throw much more computing power at them or make a serious effort to write better software or maybe put A.I. on the case they may become what we¡¯d like them to be.? Until then, your brain is the best decoder in existence.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 17:17 Charles M- KG5EEL via <chazcom= [email protected]> wrote:
Dennis,
You may or may not know but
There are several software apps that may help you with using the X6100 and a good cw decoder and they are very easy to see for older eyes especially.
MRP40, CwGet, CW decoder and hamradio deluxe among others.
All these require a computer of course but if you want to use a software application that works regardless of the built-in radio functions these work great.
Just trying to spread some joy.
73
Charles
KG5EEL
My X6100 has the latest software installed. None of the subject functions work on this radio.?
Is there a software version that does allow operation of the?CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have asked this same question of the Radioddity support as well as on several other forums and have received no response.
One thing is for sure, after having spent $600 on a radio that does not work properly, there is no way in hell I'll spend a like amount, or more on a new model that will likely do the same thing! Especially given that the manufacture apparently does not care that their product doesnt work.
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
How did you get hard going?
73
Richard VE2DX
VE2DX Electronics
President and lead designer
WWW.VE2DX.COM
Dennis,
You may or may not know but
There are several software apps that may help you with using the X6100 and a good cw decoder and they are very easy to see for older eyes especially.
MRP40, CwGet, CW decoder and hamradio deluxe among others.
All these require a computer of course but if you want to use a software application that works regardless of the built-in radio functions these work great.
Just trying to spread some joy.
73
Charles
KG5EEL
On 1/31/24, 9:55 AM "Dennis via groups.io" <spike.dennis@...> wrote:
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My X6100 has the latest software installed. None of the subject functions work on this radio.?
Is there a software version that does allow operation of the?CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have asked this same question of the Radioddity support as well as on several other forums and have received no response.
One thing is for sure, after having spent $600 on a radio that does not work properly, there is no way in hell I'll spend a like amount, or more on a new model that will likely do the same thing! Especially given that the manufacture apparently
does not care that their product doesnt work.
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Re: CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
Dennis,
You may or may not know but
There are several software apps that may help you with using the X6100 and a good cw decoder and they are very easy to see for older eyes especially.
MRP40, CwGet, CW decoder and hamradio deluxe among others.
All these require a computer of course but if you want to use a software application that works regardless of the built-in radio functions these work great.
Just trying to spread some joy.
73
Charles
KG5EEL
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On 1/31/24, 9:55 AM "Dennis via groups.io" <spike.dennis@...> wrote:
My X6100 has the latest software installed. None of the subject functions work on this radio.?
Is there a software version that does allow operation of the?CW & Digital Decoder, FM squelch & RF gain?
I have asked this same question of the Radioddity support as well as on several other forums and have received no response.
One thing is for sure, after having spent $600 on a radio that does not work properly, there is no way in hell I'll spend a like amount, or more on a new model that will likely do the same thing! Especially given that the manufacture apparently does not care that their product doesnt work.
Dennis Starks
Military-Radio-Guy
KB?SFP
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Re: My new X6100 arrived today
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 05:10 PM, Bob KD2TTM wrote:
But I'm disappointed the charge indicator doesn't work properly. ?:-(
Mine does the same thing. ?I leave mine charging overnight. I miss the blinking charging light, and the green/yellow/red battery indicator on the screen. Otherwise, it still transmits, as far as I know.
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Re: My new X6100 arrived today
I left the charger on the radio overnight after receiving it yesterday. ?I used it outside on internal battery power this morning until it got down to 7.4V and then ran it for a while indoors on my Bioenno LiFePo 12V battery. ?I just hooked up the DC charge cord with the radio set to charge "on" and the charge light came on but is not blinking. ?After a while, I disconnected it to take a look at the on-board battery voltage and it was up to 7.8V. ?I'll let it charge all night again. ?But I'm disappointed the charge indicator doesn't work properly. ?:-(
I love the radio otherwise. ?The bands were great today. ?I made one contact to a POTA activator in Georgia and he gave me a 5-9+10 signal report. ?He was pretty surprised when I told him I was transmitting with 5 watts of power!
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Bob
KD2TTM
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Hello,
Recently. my X6100 started having low RX (-122db noise or so) on startup. For a while, this could be remedied with a power cycle, but now that has stopped working.? I've seen in a previous thread that this might be due to a stuck LPF relay, or the wires between boards controlling said relay.? Does anyone have any experience with this problem?
Thanks,
Casey W7CLO
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Re: My new X6100 arrived today
You'll love the radio. I really like mine even with some of its small deficiencies. One other thing make sure you do three or four complete battery discharges to where the radio shuts off and make sure when it's fully charged that the battery reading is around 8.1 or 8.2 volts. If I remember correctly it takes about 6 to 7 hours to completely charge it.
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Bob KD2TTM
Dave
Gary