new X6100 firmware (with support of wfserver)
Hi,
Xiegu seems to have released (2023-08-07)
a new firmware for the 6100. See for
the file. A new feature, called wfserver (wfview.org) got added to
the 'System Setting' page. However neither Release-Notes of that
firmware nor the 'documentation' on wfserver is worth reading. The
Xiegu understanding of 'documentation' seems to be different to
the US and EU.
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This may be a trivial question but I have only recently purcahsed the X6100 which I am using with the Pro-Audio Engineering KX33 power supply.
The PSU is rated at 14 volts but the diplay on my X6100 is showing 14.4 volts.
There are dire warnings in the Xiegu manual not to supply more 15 volts and, of course, 14.4 is less than 15.
This still feels a little close to the operational limit.
My questiosn are :-
- Is anyone else out there using the X6100 / KX33 combo ?
- Are you seeing 14.4 volts or more on the display (i.e is this normal) ?
- Should I be concerned about running this close the max ?
- Anything else on this topic I should be aware of ?
Thanks
Geoff
G3YTX
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Re: EMPTY RED Battery icon after charge.
I am a bit lat to this discussion, but after latest firmware upgrade my battery seems to behave correctly, it charges to 8.2-3V and lasts, and shuts down, as expected at about 7,2V.
However, when being charged the green light is NOT flashing, but stays always on. The display shows the charing symbol.
Charging with included charging adapter,?
73 de LA9ULA
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Would someone be able to explain to me how to set up a pl tone for a repeater on the X6100? I couldn't find anything in the menus and the manual has no mention that I could find. I'm a new ham, so I'm sure it's just my inexperience, but a little help would be greatly appreiciated.
Thanks guys (& gals),? Scott
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Am I crazy or is the audio quality on the R1CBU firmware far better than stock? I am using an external speaker of it makes a difference. It seems like I can copy stations far lower into the noise floor than in stock firmware.?
I even switched back and forth listening to the same rag chew and heard the same thing.?
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I was just doing some experimenting and discovered that the x6100 speaker port does not work with TS plugs, extremely quiet no matter how I set up the radio. I tried a different speaker with a TRS cable and it works just fine. Plug the TS speaker in part way and it works. Same results with multiple speakers with TS male.
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My SSID has an underscore in it, no issue with the X6100 to
connect to it.
73s,
Michel de F5UJA
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Is there a "space" character in the name that your WiFi router
broadcasts? Mine did and I had to remove it, otherwise the Xiegu
firmware would ignore my network. IMO other special characters are
also suspect.
Greetings,
Rainer DG1SMD
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Power - Voltage too high ?
This may be a trivial question but I have only recently purcahsed the X6100 which I am using with the Pro-Audio Engineering KX33 power supply.
The PSU is rated at 14 volts but the diplay on my X6100 is showing 14.4 volts.
There are dire warnings in the Xiegu manual not to supply more 15 volts and, of course, 14.4 is less than 15.
This still feels a little close to the operational limit.
My questiosn are :-
- Is anyone else out there using the X6100 / KX33 combo ?
- Are you seeing 14.4 volts or more on the display (i.e is this normal) ?
- Should I be concerned about running this close the max ?
- Anything else on this topic I should be aware of ?
Thanks Geoff G3YTX
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http://cqxiegu.com/zlxz
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V1.1.7 Release Note
Image File SHA256: BF153B10AB3D942060E65BE35A64A2D6C419A5EFF8D941E5C8CE93CE6DD44305
APP:? V1.1.7 Jul 26 2023,11:50:55
BASE: V1.1.6 Mar? 7 2023,09:57:03
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1. Add wfserver.
? ?See <<x6100 wfserver.pdf>> for more details.
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@kyle?
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I? know where the code is. I asked for building instructions. I can then build it myself and check for missing parts and all.?
Last time I checked (don't do that every day) it ws not there and certainly the conversations here don't give the feeling
that it will be generated/given.?
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yes, new firmware.
/g/xiegu-x6100/topic/x6100_release_of_v1_17/100637964?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate/sticky,,,20,2,0,100637964,previd%3D9223372036854775807,nextid%3D1689973711492560527&previd=9223372036854775807&nextid=1689973711492560527
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X6100 release of v1.17, adding support for wfview
see?
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V1.1.7 Release Note
Image File SHA256: BF153B10AB3D942060E65BE35A64A2D6C419A5EFF8D941E5C8CE93CE6DD44305
APP: ?V1.1.7 Jul 26 2023,11:50:55
BASE: V1.1.6 Mar ?7 2023,09:57:03
1. Add wfserver.
??See <<x6100 wfserver.pdf>> for more details.
wfserver can be combined with wfview? (forum.wfview.org, wfview.org)? to control the 6100 remotely.
wfview is open source software that comes will all the parts and instructions to build.
(wfview itself works on many icom radio's)
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Re: ALC 100 and NO TX output (AFT5M31N) LDMOS
Real,? No problem, I found the thermistor on the battery side (see photo). I measures the voltage of the centre pin (Vout) at ~12oC and it was ~ 0.63V ... The supply to the Vin was 5V. I wamed the thermistor slightly and it changed to 0.67V - so it does work to some amount. I read that the temperature coefficient of the thermistor is 10mV per oC so, at 12/13oC the coefficient would be 13X0.01V = 0.13. The 0oC Vout is 0.5V ... So... 0.5V + 0.13V = 0.63V ... this indicates to me that the thermistor is probably 100% working correctly. Tonight I will check more scientifically and study the document of MC9700 and try to work out if the voltage at this temperature is correct or not but from the above it would appear to be fine.? ? Thank you for this valuable information Real! I had no idea the radio had this.   
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Re: ALC 100 and NO TX output (AFT5M31N) LDMOS
Hi Real,
I have not measured this thermistor. I did not dismantle the chassis this far yet so I missed it.?
The thermistor looks like its pins go through the PCB to the battery side?
Have you a photo of this side of the PCB showing the whole area? I may be able to measure the thermistor in circuit from the battery side if I can identify the 3 pins?
This is the power of the Internet Real! We help each other!?
Thanks Scot
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Re: ALC 100 and NO TX output (AFT5M31N) LDMOS
sorry for my google translate hihi, i'm think going to buy a scope to try to repair my x6100. Did you try to cool down the Low-Power Linear Active Thermistor with freeze. my to i believe its a firmware bug. problem can be solved with a new firmware release ! 
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Morning Real,
So once again I was able to observe the radio working as normal, only for it to stop.?
I have performed many measurements on the ATU. I observe each really/LPF activating correctly in respect to the band selector. There is a capacitor next to the power pin for each LPF that is easy to measure the 3.6v signal to the LPF relay.?
In my radio the LPF is selected perfectly.
I measured, inspected and confirmed as best possible that the ribbon cable is in good condition and connects to the main board.
I left the ATU and backup battery disconnected overnight.
This morning, I came to the radio and assembled it. There was NO RF power.
I worked through the bands and confirmed each LPF - all OK
I probed the RF path and noted very low uW power.
I cycled each band and noticed on 40m the RF came back!!! (see oscilloscope)
When I turned the radio over I noticed that on the 40m band I had the ATT enabled (must have been yesterday I set this and forgot)... Remember my radio came back to life when messing with the ATT some days ago?
I ran through every band, full 5W-6W power at the antenna on every band!
I turned off the ATT - I ran through every band, full 5W-6W power at the antenna on every band!
I thought maybe this is it! I fixed it!
No....
After a few cycles and TX on CW into dummy load, the RF power is gone again to zero.?
You can probe RF power on the TX relay at the point in the photo.?
I notice by now there is some warmth in the radio due to being switched on some time in RX mode and many tiny TX in CW...
Maybe a capacitor is intermittent?
Maybe the FINAL is thermally intermittent?
Maybe there is RF pre amplifier (driver) that is failing...
The ATU is ruled out in my opinion
The LPF matrix is ruled out also as it is switching perfectly and RX is noticeably good (the wrong LPF or a disconnect would kill the RX!)?
SO, I am back to Firmware corruption, or finals going on/off due to some strange instability or maybe a bad capacitor.?
I will let the radio cool all day and try again this evening and report to you.?
Thanks
Scot
I add also, that the the radio is not working, I measured the RF voltages on the GATE of the FET at ~ 213mV (0.213V) . The output from the FET was just 13mV (less than the drive to the gate) ...
When it was TX OK, the output from the FET was 6W as in the image
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Re: EMPTY RED Battery icon after charge.
That is the firmware I am running. 
? It is on the charger now, and has been for about 7 hours.? ? 
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Wright via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 2:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [xiegu-x6100] EMPTY RED Battery icon after charge.? Most current FW for X6100 is V1.1.6 Nov 2022. I hope you are not using a 3rd party FW Go to the section displaying FW. On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 08:00:48 PM EDT, George via groups.io <gkaneff@...> wrote: I¡¯ll give it another chance. Thanks 73 N2GWK ? ? I had the same problem with my x6100 after an upgrade I charged it, run it down to dead 4 times and that seemed to have fixed it. I now have a full battery charge showing when charged.? Sent from Proton Mail for iOS On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 6:44 PM, David Shelton <des.n4in@...> wrote: Sorry you are having problems with the X6100, I have a used unit that I have been using for about 2 months, you are welcome to borrow it and see if it works differently that your unit and use for awhile. ? Thanks for all the info from everyone.
Several items to note:
1. Discharge to shut off is about 2 hours.
2. Charging source is 13v 25A PS . (Anderson Power Pole connection)
3. MicroSD is "Micro Center" Class 10 (was brand new)
4. As for Firmware, I followed instructions included with Firmware Pack and did the Base Band.
I can try again. but the firmware shown in attached picture looks to be the most current.
Could someone compare with what is running on their x6100?
5. I am currently recharging with OEM Charger and will retest.
Again, I am not seeing the light EVER in the solid on state, always blinking here.
..73
George N2GWK
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Re: EMPTY RED Battery icon after charge.
Most current FW for X6100 is V1.1.6 Nov 2022.
I hope you are not using a 3rd party FW.
Go to the section displaying FW.
73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...
On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 08:00:48 PM EDT, George via groups.io <gkaneff@...> wrote:
I¡¯ll give it another chance. Thanks 73 N2GWK ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DeltaAlpha via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2023 6:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [xiegu-x6100] EMPTY RED Battery icon after charge. ? I had the same problem with my x6100 after an upgrade. I charged it, run it down to dead 4 times and that seemed to have fixed it. I now have a full battery charge showing when charged.? Sent from Proton Mail for iOS On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 6:44 PM, David Shelton <des.n4in@...> wrote: Sorry you are having problems with the X6100, I have a used unit that I have been using for about 2 months, you are welcome to borrow it and see if it works differently that your unit and use for awhile. ? Thanks for all the info from everyone.
Several items to note:
1. Discharge to shut off is about 2 hours.
2. Charging source is 13v 25A PS . (Anderson Power Pole connection)
3. MicroSD is "Micro Center" Class 10 (was brand new)
4. As for Firmware, I followed instructions included with Firmware Pack and did the Base Band.
I can try again. but the firmware shown in attached picture looks to be the most current.
Could someone compare with what is running on their x6100?
5. I am currently recharging with OEM Charger and will retest.
Again, I am not seeing the light EVER in the solid on state, always blinking here.
..73
George N2GWK
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Re: ALC 100 and NO TX output (AFT5M31N) LDMOS
Morning Real, So once again I was able to observe the radio working as normal, only for it to stop.? I have performed many measurements on the ATU. I observe each really/LPF activating correctly in respect to the band selector. There is a capacitor next to the power pin for each LPF that is easy to measure the 3.6v signal to the LPF relay.? In my radio the LPF is selected perfectly. I measured, inspected and confirmed as best possible that the ribbon cable is in good condition and connects to the main board. I left the ATU and backup battery disconnected overnight. This morning, I came to the radio and assembled it. There was NO RF power. I worked through the bands and confirmed each LPF - all OK I probed the RF path and noted very low uW power. I cycled each band and noticed on 40m the RF came back!!! (see oscilloscope) When I turned the radio over I noticed that on the 40m band I had the ATT enabled (must have been yesterday I set this and forgot)... Remember my radio came back to life when messing with the ATT some days ago? I ran through every band, full 5W-6W power at the antenna on every band! I turned off the ATT - I ran through every band, full 5W-6W power at the antenna on every band! I thought maybe this is it! I fixed it! No.... After a few cycles and TX on CW into dummy load, the RF power is gone again to zero.? You can probe RF power on the TX relay at the point in the photo.? I notice by now there is some warmth in the radio due to being switched on some time in RX mode and many tiny TX in CW... Maybe a capacitor is intermittent? Maybe the FINAL is thermally intermittent? Maybe there is RF pre amplifier (driver) that is failing... The ATU is ruled out in my opinion The LPF matrix is ruled out also as it is switching perfectly and RX is noticeably good (the wrong LPF or a disconnect would kill the RX!)? SO, I am back to Firmware corruption, or finals going on/off due to some strange instability or maybe a bad capacitor.? I will let the radio cool all day and try again this evening and report to you.? Thanks Scot I add also, that the the radio is not working, I measured the RF voltages on the GATE of the FET at ~ 213mV (0.213V) . The output from the FET was just 13mV (less than the drive to the gate) ... When it was TX OK, the output from the FET was 6W as in the image ?  
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Re: ALC 100 and NO TX output (AFT5M31N) LDMOS
Thank you for the extra photos Real, I will check for this also in my tests this evening.
Ciao for now,
Scot
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Re: ALC 100 and NO TX output (AFT5M31N) LDMOS
Scot, good match plan.
I read on the forum that unplugging and reconnecting the ribbon cable can solve the problem, on my side it does not work
it is mentioned that the ribbon cables are of very poor quality.
I am sending you a photo that I had taken, you may notice that the contacts are a bit dented.
THANKS
Real ve2cuz
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Scott-kk7mzj
Roeland Jansen, PA3MET
