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Demo Thursday 2024-05-30


 

Hi folks,

I'm doing a small presentation on TELEBAHN and other retronetwork things this Thursday, and if you have any gear that you could run between?16:00h and 20:00h UTC,?that would be great.? If you bring something up, please also let me know the NUA.

Thanks!
Hans


 

Good morning,

to support Hans in his demonstration, I wolud like to ask to enable / add the number 222 (Bernhard) in the Telebahn DNS.
The hostname (bitmint) name resolution is checked and working since some time now.
The cisco will start to work later today or early tomorrow.

Appreciate your help and wish you a great day.

Bernhard


 

Good evening Bernhard,

Sure thing! I'll put in the update after I get home, in a few hours.

--
?strid smith (she/her)
=<[ c y b e r ]>=
antique telephone collectors association member #4870

On 2024-05-28 at 5:17 pm NZST, Bernhard Wulf via groups.io wrote:
Good morning,

to support Hans in his demonstration, I wolud like to ask to enable / add the
number 222 (Bernhard) in the Telebahn DNS.
The hostname (bitmint) name resolution is checked and working since some time
now.
The cisco will start to work later today or early tomorrow.

Appreciate your help and wish you a great day.

Bernhard


 

Hi Bernhard,

thank you for setting up your X.25 service.? I have tried to connect to your system using xotpad?with an explicit gateway, but that failed:

mecipt-1 1010_% xotpad -g 22227100
Error: Custom { kind: Other, error: Os { code: 51, kind: NetworkUnreachable, message: "Network is unreachable" } }

I also tried to connect to port 1998 on , but that timed out as well:

netzhansa 1027_% telnet 1998
Trying 2001:4dd0:af15:dfcd:5e49:79ff:fe37:bcc8...
^C
netzhansa 1028_% telnet -4 1998
Trying 78.34.235.229...
^C

Are you sure that your firewall and the port forwarding is set up correctly?

-Hans

Am Di., 28. Mai 2024 um 07:36?Uhr schrieb ?strid smith via <astrid=[email protected]>:

Good evening Bernhard,

Sure thing!? I'll put in the update after I get home, in a few hours.

--
?strid smith (she/her)
=<[ c y b e r ]>=
antique telephone collectors association member #4870



On 2024-05-28 at? 5:17 pm NZST, Bernhard Wulf via wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> to support Hans in his demonstration, I wolud like to ask to enable / add the
> number 222 (Bernhard) in the Telebahn DNS.
> The hostname (bitmint) name resolution is checked and working since some time
> now.
> The cisco will start to work later today or early tomorrow.
>
> Appreciate your help and wish you a great day.
>
> Bernhard






 

It is done

--
?strid smith (she/her)
=<[ c y b e r ]>=
antique telephone collectors association member #4870

On 2024-05-28 at 5:34 pm NZST, ?strid smith wrote:
Good evening Bernhard,

Sure thing! I'll put in the update after I get home, in a few hours.

--
?strid smith (she/her)
=<[ c y b e r ]>=
antique telephone collectors association member #4870



On 2024-05-28 at 5:17 pm NZST, Bernhard Wulf via groups.io wrote:
Good morning,

to support Hans in his demonstration, I wolud like to ask to enable / add the
number 222 (Bernhard) in the Telebahn DNS.
The hostname (bitmint) name resolution is checked and working since some time
now.
The cisco will start to work later today or early tomorrow.

Appreciate your help and wish you a great day.

Bernhard


 

sorry for the confusion...

since 2 hours the router is up and running but still suffering some problems, see by yourself.

Connecting from Hans VAX with
$ set host /x29 22227100


%PAD-E-CLR_NP, call cleared by network - remote DTE is not obtainable
-PAD-I-CAUSEDIAG, cause code 0D, diagnostic code 40
PAD usage statistics:
? Elapsed time: 00:00:00.27 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? CPU time: ? ? 00:00:00.03
? Buffered I/O: 25 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Direct I/O: ? 9
? Page faults: ?117 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??

%PAD-F-END, control returned to node EUGENE::

will give on my side

CiscoX25Gateway#
May 29 07:13:16: [80.134.208.97,32226/192.168.13.40,1998]: XOT I P/Inactive Call (19) 8 lci 1
May 29 07:13:16: ? From (0): ?To (8): 22227100
May 29 07:13:16: ? Facilities: (6)
May 29 07:13:16: ? ? Packet sizes: 128 128
May 29 07:13:16: ? ? Window sizes: 2 2
May 29 07:13:16: ? Call User Data (4): 0x01000000 (pad)
May 29 07:13:16: X.25 host name sent for DNS lookup is "271.222.x25.org"
May 29 07:13:16: [80.134.208.97,32226/192.168.13.40,1998]: XOT O P3 Clear (5) 8 lci 1
May 29 07:13:16: ? Cause 13, Diag 64 (Not obtainable/Call or Clear problem)
May 29 07:13:16: [80.134.208.97,32226/192.168.13.40,1998]: XOT I P6 Clear Confirm (3) 8 lci 1
CiscoX25Gateway#

Any ideas where to look first, something I may have overlooked?

Looking forward to the "Demo-Day".

Bernhard


 

Hi Bernhard,

can you share your cisco configuration?? Here is mine for reference:

version 15.0
service pad to-xot
service pad from-xot
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption

hostname

boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker

enable secret 5 XXX

no aaa new-model

clock timezone MEST 2

dot11 syslog
ip source-route
no ip routing

no ip cef

ip domain name
ip name-server 192.168.23.1
no ipv6 cef

multilink bundle-name authenticated

x25 routing
x25 call-record

voice-card 0

crypto pki token default removal timeout 0

license udi pid CISCO2811 sn XXX

redundancy

dlsw local-peer peer-id 192.168.23.2
dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 192.168.23.3

interface FastEthernet0/0
?ip address 192.168.23.2 255.255.255.0
?no ip route-cache
?shutdown
?duplex half
?speed auto
?no cdp enable
?no mop enabled

interface FastEthernet0/1
?ip address 192.168.23.2 255.255.255.0
?no ip route-cache
?duplex half
?speed 10
?lat enabled
?no cdp enable

interface Serial0/0/0
?description Sun SPARCstation IPX
?no ip address
?encapsulation x25 dce
?no ip route-cache
?clock rate 9600
?no cdp enable

interface Serial0/0/1
?description VAX 4000-105A EUGENE::
?no ip address
?encapsulation x25 dce
?no ip route-cache
?x25 address 23000100
?clock rate 9600
?no cdp enable

interface Serial0/1/0
?no ip address
?encapsulation sdlc
?no ip route-cache
?no keepalive
?clock rate 9600
?sdlc role primary
?sdlc vmac 4000.0999.0100
?sdlc address C1
?sdlc xid C1 01700019
?sdlc partner 4000.1020.1000 C1
?sdlc dlsw C1

interface Serial0/1/1
?no ip address
?no ip route-cache
?shutdown
?clock rate 2000000

ip default-gateway 192.168.23.1
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server

! This is for MUD forwarding
translate x25 23000101 tcp 192.168.23.4 port 4000 quiet

logging facility local4
logging source-interface FastEthernet0/0
logging 192.168.178.11
logging 192.168.2.49
no cdp run

lat service ident cisco 2811 IOS 15.0 (Hans)
lat service enabled
lat service MUD ident Multi User Dungeon (CircleMUD 3.1 auf SunOS 4.1.4)
lat service MUD autocommand telnet 4000 /quiet /line
lat service MUD enabled

x25 route ^230002.. interface Serial0/0/1
x25 route ^230003.. interface Serial0/0/0
x25 route ^(...)(...) xot dns \2.\
x25 route .* clear
x25 host 23000100

control-plane

line con 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
?password cisco
?login
?transport input all
line vty 5
?no login
?rotary 5
line vty 6 8
?no login

scheduler allocate 20000 1000
ntp update-calendar
ntp server 192.168.23.1
end

Am Mi., 29. Mai 2024 um 09:18?Uhr schrieb Bernhard Wulf via <groups.l3kbt=[email protected]>:

sorry for the confusion...

since 2 hours the router is up and running but still suffering some problems, see by yourself.

Connecting from Hans VAX with
$ set host /x29 22227100


%PAD-E-CLR_NP, call cleared by network - remote DTE is not obtainable
-PAD-I-CAUSEDIAG, cause code 0D, diagnostic code 40
PAD usage statistics:
? Elapsed time: 00:00:00.27 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? CPU time: ? ? 00:00:00.03
? Buffered I/O: 25 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Direct I/O: ? 9
? Page faults: ?117 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??

%PAD-F-END, control returned to node EUGENE::

will give on my side

CiscoX25Gateway#
May 29 07:13:16: [80.134.208.97,32226/,1998]: XOT I P/Inactive Call (19) 8 lci 1
May 29 07:13:16: ? From (0): ?To (8): 22227100
May 29 07:13:16: ? Facilities: (6)
May 29 07:13:16: ? ? Packet sizes: 128 128
May 29 07:13:16: ? ? Window sizes: 2 2
May 29 07:13:16: ? Call User Data (4): 0x01000000 (pad)
May 29 07:13:16: X.25 host name sent for DNS lookup is ""
May 29 07:13:16: [80.134.208.97,32226/,1998]: XOT O P3 Clear (5) 8 lci 1
May 29 07:13:16: ? Cause 13, Diag 64 (Not obtainable/Call or Clear problem)
May 29 07:13:16: [80.134.208.97,32226/,1998]: XOT I P6 Clear Confirm (3) 8 lci 1
CiscoX25Gateway#

Any ideas where to look first, something I may have overlooked?

Looking forward to the "Demo-Day".

Bernhard


 

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My Cisco1760 at 471041 is always online, although has nothing interesting to offer (other than telnet/tracert to dn42, or PAD to two more identical routers...)

On 27/05/2024 21.54, Hans Hübner wrote:

Hi folks,

I'm doing a small presentation on TELEBAHN and other retronetwork things this Thursday, and if you have any gear that you could run between?16:00h and 20:00h UTC,?that would be great.? If you bring something up, please also let me know the NUA.

Thanks!
Hans


 

Hans,
I think I did it.

Currently working from Eugene on V10031 via x.25... looks good so far.

On my side you should find a CISCO 1721 Router connected to the VAX 4000-100A.

Happy greetings.
Bernhard


 

Hi Bernhard,

nicely done, I can connect to your VAX using xotpad 22227500 - Is there a guest account?

Cheers,
Hans

Am Mi., 29. Mai 2024 um 19:59?Uhr schrieb Bernhard Wulf via <groups.l3kbt=[email protected]>:

Hans,
I think I did it.

Currently working from Eugene on V10031 via x.25... looks good so far.

On my side you should find a CISCO 1721 Router connected to the VAX 4000-100A.

Happy greetings.
Bernhard


 

Moin Hans,

should all be available since late yesterday.
Guest Account plus ability to create your own account ... like on the other VAX connected to the Retro-Network.

Do you still miss something you would like to see for the demonstration later today?
Please let me know.

Wish you all the best...
Bernhard


 

Hi Bernhard,

thank you for setting up your VAX 4000/100A - I could log in successfully, and I was also able to make outbound X.29 calls.? By any chance, do you know how you set the DTE?address of your machine in VAX P.S.I.?? When I make outbound calls from my machine, the calling DTE address is empty, which is annoying.? Calls from your machine are made with the right calling address.

Thanks,
Hans

Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 11:04?Uhr schrieb Bernhard Wulf via <groups.l3kbt=[email protected]>:

Moin Hans,

should all be available since late yesterday.
Guest Account plus ability to create your own account ... like on the other VAX connected to the Retro-Network.

Do you still miss something you would like to see for the demonstration later today?
Please let me know.

Wish you all the best...
Bernhard


 

Hans,

that is one of the points still under investigation...
still not solved, is also the PSI_MAIL (PSI%xxxx::username) and the missing accessibility the the CISCO.

Experiencing a very long (minutes...) delay in XOT when connecting to my VAX compared to your's, any idea?

I will check and report.

Bernhard


 

Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 15:04?Uhr schrieb Bernhard Wulf via <groups.l3kbt=[email protected]>:
Experiencing a very long (minutes...) delay in XOT when connecting to my VAX compared to your's, any idea?

It seems that the connection is first attempted using IPv6 and if that eventually fails, with IPv4.? Maybe it would make sense to not have an IPv6 address associated with the DNS name that is used in the TELEBAHN mapping:

has IPv6 address 2001:4dd0:af15:dfcd:5e49:79ff:fe37:bcc8
has address 87.78.134.96

-Hans


 

Hans,

checked the NUA display and found the following...

I'm logging in on my own VAX V10031 with
$set host /x29 ownNUA
and get this on
?SYSTEM ? _NVA12: ? ? ? 00000224 ?NVA12: ? (TELEBAHN.22227500)
NUA is in

Now to your EUGENE machine...
$set host /x29 yourNUA
the result is
BERNHARD ?BERNHARD ? ? ?00000341 ?NVA13: ? (TELEBAHN.22227500)
NUA is still in

and back to my machine (now logging in as guest)...
$set host /x29 ownNUA
giving me
GUEST ? ?GUEST ? ? ? ? 00000225 ?NVA13: ? (TELEBAHN.)
NUA is missing

Are you not sending the respective data?
Did you ever saw your address on other X29 terminal connections?

Will check in more depth (protocol analyser) the telegrams send and received during initiation of the communication.

Bernhard


 

Bernhard,

I think that EUGENE is just not sending its own DTE address when making outgoing calls? - That is what I can see in the X25 call log.? I'm not sure how I can configure the outgoing address, though.? Some NCP magic is likely required.

I can set the local DTE address successfully like so:?set ho/x29 23000300/local_dte=23000200

Anyway, not all that important, it'd just be nicer if outbound calls would not be anonymous.

-Hans

Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 15:37?Uhr schrieb Bernhard Wulf via <groups.l3kbt=[email protected]>:

Hans,

checked the NUA display and found the following...

I'm logging in on my own VAX V10031 with
$set host /x29 ownNUA
and get this on
?SYSTEM ? _NVA12: ? ? ? 00000224 ?NVA12: ? (TELEBAHN.22227500)
NUA is in

Now to your EUGENE machine...
$set host /x29 yourNUA
the result is
BERNHARD ?BERNHARD ? ? ?00000341 ?NVA13: ? (TELEBAHN.22227500)
NUA is still in

and back to my machine (now logging in as guest)...
$set host /x29 ownNUA
giving me
GUEST ? ?GUEST ? ? ? ? 00000225 ?NVA13: ? (TELEBAHN.)
NUA is missing

Are you not sending the respective data?
Did you ever saw your address on other X29 terminal connections?

Will check in more depth (protocol analyser) the telegrams send and received during initiation of the communication.

Bernhard