Dave, All,
Bizarre reason but I may have found my issue. The problem was only
occurring with my IC-7300 and apparently only regularly apparent
when I was running 2 (or 3) instances of fldigi; the first
instance was running THOR22.
I tried numerous ways to discover a cause (many have been
described in this thread) and up until just after I got back from
Xenia, I thought I succeeded seeveral times only to be
disappointed after letting the 2 instance configuration run
longer.
Since my last report:
1. Set the sample rate (Soundcard,
Settings, Sample Rate, set to 22050 (value picked by SWAG) because
it is half the Native rate. This by itself, did not work but I
left it that way (by accident) to do the next step:
2. Ran the FSQ instance first, allowing that
instance to start flrig, then start the THOR22
instance that uses the same instance of flrig - this is
reverse of what I was doing when the problem was there and it
seems to be stable.
To rule out #1, I have reverted to Native sample rate and made
sure that the Windows USB Audio CODEC for both the TX and RX of
the IC-7300 was also set to 44100 (CD rate not DVD, DVD
sample rate is 48000). It seems to have stayed stable.
I will leave things running for a few more days to verify my
revised settings work..
Comment: I am not at all sure why this was happening to me when I
started the THOR22 instance first... and not when I start with
FSQ. I have been working with the AB8FJ FSQ 10.1415 MHz
experimental group where FSQ (at +1500 Hz) is being used to
"auto-assemble" a net group rather than using a net call up.
THOR22 (at +2000 Hz) is currently being used to move data - with flamp.
We also have a third chat channel using JS8Call at +1000 Hz. We
will likely move to THOR25 at +2000 Hz when the mode is
incorporated in a regular non-beta release of fldigi.
73
Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo
Parkton, MD
On 2/3/2025 8:18 PM, Jack Spitznagel
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Will do! Thanks Dave.
Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo
Parkton, MD
On 2/3/2025 7:49 PM, Dave via
groups.io wrote:
The next time it happens please start recording the audio
on the bad and good instance.? Two minutes of audio should
be fine.? Send the audio files to me.
Thanks.
Dave
On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at
5:43?PM Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ) via
<kd4iz=
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wrote:
Hi Dave,
Thanks for responding on this issue.
I am running 3 instances of fldigi but have seen it with
2 or one in the past. I can't say that other audio apps
were not running before.
I was not running a web browser or other audio stream
app when I took those screen shots.?
Happened again last evening, this time all 3 instances
showed the same effect. Re started the instances today
and all has been fine.
Just now went back to make sure the webcam and
conferencing apps and such were all unloaded. There
should not be anything accessing the audio subsystem
other than fldigi.
In response to the suggestion by James, WA9VEZ - no it
was definitely not ionospheric multipath. All fldigi
instances revert to clear trace immediately on a restart
of each.
As a former electronics guy (ETN/crypto) Coastie, I had
to deal with multipath and selective fade on fleet
broadcast and ship to shore HF circuits all the time. I
am familiar with what happens (including the doppler
effect on timing) and love having the specrum scope
features on the new generations of SDR based rigs. All
amateurs should learn to use them properly and interpret
thee pattern. IMO there would be much less QRM-ing going
on as a result.
Thanks again and 73!
Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo
Parkton, MD
On 2/3/2025 6:56 AM, Dave via wrote:
I have only seen that once on Windows 11 Jack,
but not when I was running multiple instances.? It
occurred when the web browser was on line with media
interface operating.? How many instances of fldigi
and what other applications that might be using the
audio stream?
David
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025
at 7:35?PM Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ) via <kd4iz=
[email protected]>
wrote:
Dave W1HKJ, All,
Running multiple instances of fldigi version
4.2.06.20 on Win 11 very successfully, however
when an instance is run for a long period of
time I infrequently see some distortion creep in
to the WF on one (sometimes 2) instances. When
this happens, decode becomes degraded or stops
only on the instance where I see the pattern
like trace below:

From a concurrent iteration, that same signal
looks like this:

Obviously it is not the rig or the OS audio
system. It has happened for several versions
back. It happens with fldigi using many
different modems. Frustrating, because I have
never been at the operating position when it
does happen. It is always resolved by exiting
the iterations that show the problem and
restarting them. Everything seems to run fine
for quite some time afterward.
1. Has anyone else seen this?
2. Any clue what might be happening?
Thanks and 73,
--
Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo
Parkton, MD