GM, Ken,
I understand the frustration...I'll resp0nd inline, and hope that quoting makes it clear...
On 2024-11-09 20:53:, Kenneth G. Gordon via groups.io wrote:
If one looks at the levels displayed in the MIC output display in say the audio mixer,
"MIC output display"
I want to be sure we are on the same page here...MIC output display means the output from the ~driver~ to Windows apps, not output to an external device, such as digirig. mic is an input. I avoid this discussion in my mind by labeling devices as recommended in the attached.
one sees the levels being output by the receiver through Fldigi.
Not quite, IIUC. The mic input is the audio signal that has not reached fldigi yet. You should be able to kill fldigi, tune the radio to a signal, and see a response on the Windows mic meter. From there, if fldigi is configured to use this input, the audio stream will reach fldigi. fldigi doesna reroute received audio streams anywhere that I know of.
There is no such display in the SPEAKER level control reading where it should be.
That makes sense. The only way for the spkr meter to respond to mic inputs is to have it configured that way. Please see the attached. In principle, these docs work ~in general~ for any radio and sound card IF, such as SignaLink or digirig.
Note in particular,
"In Playback and Recording, the digirig should NOT be a Default or Default Comm Device. Only fldigi will be using it."
Of course, if you want to hear the RX audio, then configure the driver to send audio to the speakers. fldigi will be able to ~also~ receive the audio stream. It's just sent to 2 places: fldigi, because fldigi is configured to use that mic device; and the system speakers, because the driver is configured that way.
The docs attached assume that you ~don't~ want to listen to all that digital audio, so the mic and speaker devices attached to the sound card you are using, such as digirig or SL, are NOT a Default or Default Comm Device.
I adjust the audio to the radio speaker or an external speaker when I am using any of my radios except HTs. That way, I can confirm received signals, yet turn down the volume so I am not annoyed by the noise. Can't do that w HTs., but there are many visual indications of both RX audio (on radio and laptop), and the fldigi SIG display.
Ordinarily, in Win10, one can see audio from the radio receiver being displayed in the
SPEAKERS section of the display.
ONLY if the system is configured that way.
Instead, in Win11 we are seeing the audio output by the
attached radio receiver in the MIC section of the display where it should NOT be.
This is exactly where it should be. Radio ~output~ is a mic or line level ~input~ to the computer.
As I said, in this case, I fixed the issue by installing and activating a new seat of Win10 Pro 64 bit.
You have been very clear with your posts, but I admit that it leaves me puzzled about how you normally config your system in W10. As you see in the attached docs, the Sound dialog is pictured. What is not pictured, but is described in the text, is further configuration, noted by comments such as "Listen: Unselect Listen to this device."
All I can say otherwise is that I am a regular user of fldigi, have been for many years, and use a variety of Windows. I use fldigi with W11, following both the recommendations of the attachments AND accounting for the peculiarities of W11, which, IMO, make life more difficult, but still follow the same rules.
Kind regards,
Rich
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