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Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?


 


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

Try willys truck warehouse in rodeo, ca.


On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 2:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC
<marcwhittemore@...> wrote:

Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

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It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

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You are the best!!!
THANK YOU!

:)


-------- Original message --------
From: "Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io" <pruitg@...>
Date: 3/17/21 3:50 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?

It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

You should heat it with a torch before welding to help stabilize the metal.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash.


On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 4:03 PM, AWORKOFMARC
<marcwhittemore@...> wrote:
You are the best!!!
THANK YOU!

:)


-------- Original message --------
From: "Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io" <pruitg@...>
Date: 3/17/21 3:50 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?

It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

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Oven, not one for consumable food. Get it hot enough to expand W/heat until.it normalizes.Try V TRY HERM THE OVERDRIVE GUY!

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Barrett via groups.io <tkertoy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:01:19 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...>
Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?
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You should heat it with a torch before welding to help stabilize the metal.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash.


On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 4:03 PM, AWORKOFMARC
<marcwhittemore@...> wrote:
You are the best!!!
THANK YOU!

:)


-------- Original message --------
From: "Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io" <pruitg@...>
Date: 3/17/21 3:50 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?

It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

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Bob and John –Thank you too!

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Barrett via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 5:01 PM
To: [email protected]; AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...>
Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?

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You should heat it with a torch before welding to help stabilize the metal.

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John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash.

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On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 4:03 PM, AWORKOFMARC

You are the best!!!

THANK YOU!

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:)

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-------- Original message --------

From: "Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io" <pruitg@...>

Date: 3/17/21 3:50 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?

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It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.

It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.

Pruit



On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:

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Hey Gents...

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks

?


 

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And afterward to cool slowly.
If it is not in a bad place, it could be brazed easier than welded, but you would have to get the crack area red hot for the brass to bond.
Barrett?

Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via <pruitg@...> wrote:

It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.?

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks



 

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I don’t know where you are located. I have a case you could have. I’m in Wisconsin. To properly weld cast it must be heated first, welded with nickel rod and allowed to cool slowly. We used to put it in a drum of vermiculite overnight to cool.?
Good luck. Richard?


On Mar 17, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io <pruitg@...> wrote:

? It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


Curt Holland
 

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Marc,
Can you post a few pictures of where it is cracked? Lock-n-stitch makes some great cast iron repair options. And none of the risks that come with welding.
Curt


Sent from beautiful Bessemer City
On Mar 17, 2021 9:12 PM, "Richard Needham via groups.io" <flappy59@...> wrote:
I don’t know where you are located. I have a case you could have. I’m in Wisconsin. To properly weld cast it must be heated first, welded with nickel rod and allowed to cool slowly. We used to put it in a drum of vermiculite overnight to cool.?
Good luck. Richard?


On Mar 17, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io <pruitg@...> wrote:

? It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

Before welding the crack needs to be deep "V'ed" to get down to clean metal. Cast iron has a coating that doesn't weld very well. After grinding the case should be heated to 500+ degrees in an oven or with a torch in the area of the crack. If the crack is in the mounting flange it would be a good idea to bolt it to a steel plate to keep warpage to a minimum.
Good luck.

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash.


On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:39 PM, Curt Holland
<curt@...> wrote:
Marc,
Can you post a few pictures of where it is cracked? Lock-n-stitch makes some great cast iron repair options. And none of the risks that come with welding.
Curt


Sent from beautiful Bessemer City
On Mar 17, 2021 9:12 PM, "Richard Needham via groups.io" <flappy59@...> wrote:
I don’t know where you are located. I have a case you could have. I’m in Wisconsin. To properly weld cast it must be heated first, welded with nickel rod and allowed to cool slowly. We used to put it in a drum of vermiculite overnight to cool.?
Good luck. Richard?


On Mar 17, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io <pruitg@...> wrote:

? It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

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Ah, awesome ok. I'll get some pic tomorrow. Thank yee!


-------- Original message --------
From: Curt Holland <curt@...>
Date: 3/17/21 6:39 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?

Marc,
Can you post a few pictures of where it is cracked? Lock-n-stitch makes some great cast iron repair options. And none of the risks that come with welding.
Curt


Sent from beautiful Bessemer City
On Mar 17, 2021 9:12 PM, "Richard Needham via groups.io" <flappy59@...> wrote:
I don’t know where you are located. I have a case you could have. I’m in Wisconsin. To properly weld cast it must be heated first, welded with nickel rod and allowed to cool slowly. We used to put it in a drum of vermiculite overnight to cool.?
Good luck. Richard?


On Mar 17, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io <pruitg@...> wrote:

? It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

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Hi Richard...? you know... ya think that just might be the way to go???

Would you need to know the diameter of the middle shaft? Because I heard someplace in all my calls today something about the case being interchangeable and I'd need to know that stationary shaft's diameter.

What would you be asking price wise? Im in Los Angeles so add shipping on top.


Sent from beautiful Bessemer City
On Mar 17, 2021 9:12 PM, "Richard Needham via groups.io" <flappy59@...> wrote:
I don’t know where you are located. I have a case you could have. I’m in Wisconsin. To properly weld cast it must be heated first, welded with nickel rod and allowed to cool slowly. We used to put it in a drum of vermiculite overnight to cool.?
Good luck. Richard?


On Mar 17, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io <pruitg@...> wrote:

? It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.
It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.
Pruit

On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:


Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks


 

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Ok cool… Thanks Gents!? Slowly bring this old girl back to her glory days..

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Checking with my mechanic now…? but it almost makes more sense to just replace it since everything has to come off anyways… ?May have found a case closer to me in Riverside for $50. And the drive to get there. ?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?

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And afterward to cool slowly.

If it is not in a bad place, it could be brazed easier than welded, but you would have to get the crack area red hot for the brass to bond.

Barrett?

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Pruit



On Mar 17, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via <pruitg@...> wrote:

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It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked.

It must be a Dana 18 in a 57.

Pruit



On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:07 PM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:

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Hey Gents....

Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.?

Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?

Thanks

?

?


 

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Just to circle back… Had a ton of work just done with transmission and transfer case. Turns out the both the $%$*#!@ mechanics that worked on it previously were more tinker toy scam mechanics than anything.? Lots of $$$4 lost :(

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Los Angeles is nothing but scum, bums, actor wanna bes and homeless. God I need outta here. </rant>

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But thought this might be appreciated. Me and my current old school mechanic decided electric orange might be nice ---LOL. Flashy ay?


 

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Thanks for posting about Willys truck warehouse, never knew it existed. Need some body work done on my ‘59.?
Hopefully they do good work and are good to deal with.
Ted


On May 6, 2021, at 10:22 AM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:

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Just to circle back… Had a ton of work just done with transmission and transfer case. Turns out the both the $%$*#!@ mechanics that worked on it previously were more tinker toy scam mechanics than anything.? Lots of $$$4 lost :(

?

Los Angeles is nothing but scum, bums, actor wanna bes and homeless. God I need outta here. </rant>

?

But thought this might be appreciated. Me and my current old school mechanic decided electric orange might be nice ---LOL. Flashy ay?

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Does anyone know if a transmission floor cover off a cj- will fit a 48 willys pickup?


On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:51 AM, Ted McCann
<mccannrealty@...> wrote:
Thanks for posting about Willys truck warehouse, never knew it existed. Need some body work done on my ‘59.?
Hopefully they do good work and are good to deal with.
Ted


On May 6, 2021, at 10:22 AM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:

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?

Just to circle back… Had a ton of work just done with transmission and transfer case. Turns out the both the $%$*#!@ mechanics that worked on it previously were more tinker toy scam mechanics than anything.? Lots of $$$4 lost :(

?

Los Angeles is nothing but scum, bums, actor wanna bes and homeless. God I need outta here. </rant>

?

But thought this might be appreciated. Me and my current old school mechanic decided electric orange might be nice ---LOL. Flashy ay?

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Clearly, you've had some bad luck with your transmission. Yes, I have a T90 and D18 T-case you could have but live much too far away during this pandemic to be of use.
Permit me to give a little assurance... there are good people, even competent mechanics out there, but they are very old, and far between now. Herm-the-Overdrive- Guy does good work but he's in Washington State, a thousand miles from LA. I've found that I can do much of the mechanical work myself, but it takes a very long time - do the pictures indicate you have a useable transmission now?
I'm sure you know that we are approaching the end of an era with these old vehicles - there's plenty of problems with the new designs of course (my son is trying to source a replacement battery for his Leaf... Nissan doesn't want to sell replacements and so one has to "scrounge").

All the best of luck. Pavel up north.


 

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Sparkling!?


On May 6, 2021, at 10:59 AM, mike via groups.io <hp9@...> wrote:

?Does anyone know if a transmission floor cover off a cj- will fit a 48 willys pickup?


On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:51 AM, Ted McCann
<mccannrealty@...> wrote:
Thanks for posting about Willys truck warehouse, never knew it existed. Need some body work done on my ‘59.?
Hopefully they do good work and are good to deal with.
Ted


On May 6, 2021, at 10:22 AM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:

?

?

Just to circle back… Had a ton of work just done with transmission and transfer case. Turns out the both the $%$*#!@ mechanics that worked on it previously were more tinker toy scam mechanics than anything.? Lots of $$$4 lost :(

?

Los Angeles is nothing but scum, bums, actor wanna bes and homeless. God I need outta here. </rant>

?

But thought this might be appreciated. Me and my current old school mechanic decided electric orange might be nice ---LOL. Flashy ay?

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<Resized_20210505_122236.jpeg>


 

Words of wisdom my friend. Words of wisdom.
I humbly thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
willyswagon230
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 11:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon
Transfer Case?

Clearly, you've had some bad luck with your transmission. Yes, I have a T90
and D18 T-case you could have but live much too far away during this
pandemic to be of use.
Permit me to give a little assurance... there are good people, even
competent mechanics out there, but they are very old, and far between now.
Herm-the-Overdrive- Guy does good work but he's in Washington State, a
thousand miles from LA. I've found that I can do much of the mechanical
work myself, but it takes a very long time - do the pictures indicate you
have a useable transmission now?
I'm sure you know that we are approaching the end of an era with these old
vehicles - there's plenty of problems with the new designs of course (my son
is trying to source a replacement battery for his Leaf... Nissan doesn't
want to sell replacements and so one has to "scrounge").

All the best of luck. Pavel up north.