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[WT] Locking Hub Noise
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I have experienced the same sound in front wheel drive cars at my repair
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shop. The sound indicated wear in the constant velocity joints. Any front wheel drive axel must have some type of joint to allow the wheels to be able to steer the vehicle. When your hubs are unlocked the front axels are not rotating hence no popping sound. An Old Willys Nut Ted -----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...]On Behalf Of cj3bjohn Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:29 AM To: WillysTech@... Subject: [WT] Locking Hub Noise I'm looking for opinions or suggestions as to a loud "snapping" or hard "clicking" noise that comes from the front wheels of my 1953 CJ3B. I drove the Willys for the first time yesterday, as a shake-down run before installing the body. Bolted in a temporary seat and hand throttle & off I went. Low speeds, no sudden moves, just seeing if all systems function. Here is my question - At full steering wheel lock left or right, there is a loud "click, or snap" that appears to come from the front wheels. This happens only in four wheel drive, with the locking hubs engaged. In two wheel drive, hubs disengaged, no noise. The hubs were reconditioned & appeared to be in good shape. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, John 1953 CJ3B |
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I would bet you have the Bendix type joints in your front axles, and when these joints become worn, they pop and crackle. In the old days (1950s) all of us Jeepers considered those noises just part of the "Jeep thing." I never heard of anyone having these noisy joints fail, although my experience was limited. When it got to the place that these noises in the front axle of my 1949 3A were too annoying, I changed out the used joints for new ones, and that was the end of it. However, the decision was based upon aesthetics, not mechanics.
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Pineneedle John ted sowell <jeepster@...> wrote: I have experienced the same sound in front wheel drive cars at my repair shop. The sound indicated wear in the constant velocity joints. Any front wheel drive axel must have some type of joint to allow the wheels to be able to steer the vehicle. When your hubs are unlocked the front axels are not rotating hence no popping sound. An Old Willys Nut Ted -----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...]On Behalf Of cj3bjohn Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 6:29 AM To: WillysTech@... Subject: [WT] Locking Hub Noise I'm looking for opinions or suggestions as to a loud "snapping" or hard "clicking" noise that comes from the front wheels of my 1953 CJ3B. I drove the Willys for the first time yesterday, as a shake-down run before installing the body. Bolted in a temporary seat and hand throttle & off I went. Low speeds, no sudden moves, just seeing if all systems function. Here is my question - At full steering wheel lock left or right, there is a loud "click, or snap" that appears to come from the front wheels. This happens only in four wheel drive, with the locking hubs engaged. In two wheel drive, hubs disengaged, no noise. The hubs were reconditioned & appeared to be in good shape. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, John 1953 CJ3B |
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Had the Bendix joints in my truck - they will fail. Been there, done that.
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One of the first things that should be checked is that the turning angle isn't too much. The service manual has the specs for that (don't remember it off-hand.) If the knuckle is allowed to turn too far the joint gets in a bind and can break. On the Bendix joints in my truck one of the ears making up the joint broke off and the broken off piece locked up the steering. This occurred on a sharp left turn while in 4WD. David '50 $WD Pickup On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:57:15 -0500, John Wickersham <johnwick@...> wrote:
I would bet you have the Bendix type joints in your front axles, and when these joints become worn, they pop and crackle. In the old days (1950s) all of us Jeepers considered those noises just part of the "Jeep thing." I never heard of anyone having these noisy joints fail, although my experience was limited. When it got to the place that these noises in the front axle of my 1949 3A were too annoying, I changed out the used joints for new ones, and that was the end of it. However, the decision was based upon aesthetics, not mechanics. |
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Bendix Joints are good for 23? - Spicer 27 1/2? and - Rzeppa are 29?
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From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On Behalf Of David Hoelzeman Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:19 PM To: WillysTech@... Subject: Re: [WT] Locking Hub Noise Had the Bendix joints in my truck - they will fail. Been there, done that. One of the first things that should be checked is that the turning angle isn't too much. The service manual has the specs for that (don't remember it off-hand.) If the knuckle is allowed to turn too far the joint gets in a bind and can break. On the Bendix joints in my truck one of the ears making up the joint broke off and the broken off piece locked up the steering. This occurred on a sharp left turn while in 4WD. David '50 $WD Pickup On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:57:15 -0500, John Wickersham <johnwick@...> wrote: I would bet you have the Bendix type joints in your front axles, and Support WillysTech -- Check out the WT Bookstore _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ WillysTech _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ WillysTech Parts Board - Sell/Buy Vehicles and Parts WillysTech Registry - Add your vehicle WillysTech KnowledgeBase - Search the Archives _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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