In a message dated 6/25/99 4:25:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
jandb@... writes:
<< I got hit is the head with the one ball I could get out. I'm still
looking for it. I have been told rails have an interlock. I'm trying to
move them to get the other ball and spring out. I have friend coming over
this afternoon to show me how. He said it was not a problem so I should have
it done this afternoon. I'll let you know. Thanks again for the
instructions. By the way balls came in the small parts kit but springs
didn't.
John D. (OK) >>
John, My small parts kit only included the balls as well. I think it would
be kinda hard to damage the spring. I hope to get to this tonight.
Rick S (TX)
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I long for the day of borrowing an 18 wheeler with an auto carrier trailer.
Driving from Canada down to Arizona and filling the trailer up with solid
rust free projects for my retirement.
Richard, your storey brings tears of sadness to my eyes. Heck I would just
settle for a rust free FC-150 cab!
Bruce,
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From: Richard Grover <grover@...>
WARNING: The following note contains scenes unfit for all audiences.
I have seen good doors in junkyards. Also several flat front fenders.
Fewer
rear fenders. There aren't very many Willys vehicles in junk yards around
Phoenix. One pickup with good rear fenders and two doors was crushed two
years ago. Aaaaiiiiiiieeeeeuuuuu.......
(Did you feel the ripple in the force?)
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Bravo!
Just don't let our wives know or we'll all be selling parts! :)
Jim
56 PU L6 226
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Willys folks: my '53 model 685 (2wd) wagon had a funky variation on
the woody theme - the indented panels on the side had some sort of
wicker cane design (an octagonal pattern like you see on old caned
chairs). Combined with a headliner and interior trim made out of a
cane-like material (like you see in a straw hat), it had a safari feel
to it. Of course, the material on the side panels has long since
disappeared leaving only the faint pattern behind, and the headliner
and interior trim has long since decomposed leaving only crumbling
tidbits, but it must have looked darn cool coming off the assembly
line!
While we're on the woody theme, I bought my willys from a guy in
Little Suamico, Wisconsin (just up the road from Titletown, hey). He
had a ramshackle series of sheds filled up with all sorts of old cars
that he was restoring. I am hoping that he needed some cash for his
other projects, which is why he sold me the willys, but maybe he knew
of some hidden defect which I am yet to find! Anyway, his main gig
was restoring woodies. He had 4 or 5 of them spanning a 25 year
period, but the most awesome of them was a mid-30's Packard limo which
was reportedly owned by a Chicago mobster. He had bought it from the
widow of the caretaker of the mobster's northern wisconsin getaway.
It had something like 30,000 miles on it, the original paint, wood
panels, and leather interior were still in great condition, and it
still had WWII gas ration stamps on the windshield. It essentially
had not been driven since the '50s. Other than a Willys, it is the
coolest vehicle I have ever seen. I guess the point is that a willys
fetish leads one in strange and interesting directions.
Ben in Madison, WI
'53 model 685 "deluxe" wagon (with new wiring!)
need to get my tailgate welded on, fix the brakes, put on a new
exhaust pipe, add seatbelts for the wife, and I'm ready to go. So
close, yet so far.
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Are you saying it has horizontal bars? Weird! I want to see a picture.
Rick G. in AZ
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From: Jb48wAgOn@... [mailto:Jb48wAgOn@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 8:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WT] Jeep Woody?
From: Jb48wAgOn@...
i have a '48 wagon and the grill is almost flat, but it has a slight angle
to
it. and the bars are the same as the later models.
Josh Brown
California
48 station wagon
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Wow, I'd really like to see one of these restored. This was a common practice on a lot of early luxury sedans. I've seen it on Rolls Royce and Packards, but never on a Willys. Anyone have any info on if this was factory or an aftermarket customizing job? In a message dated 6/25/99 7:55:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ben.griffiths@... writes: Willys folks: my '53 model 685 (2wd) wagon had a funky variation on
the woody theme - the indented panels on the side had some sort of
wicker cane design (an octagonal pattern like you see on old caned
chairs). Combined with a headliner and interior trim made out of a
cane-like material (like you see in a straw hat), it had a safari feel to it. Of course, the material on the side panels has long since
disappeared leaving only the faint pattern behind, and the headliner
and interior trim has long since decomposed leaving only crumbling
tidbits, but it must have looked darn cool coming off the assembly
line!
Vern Heywood Laguna Hills, CA '49 Station Wagon
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Vern and all,
When I put a tow bar on my Jeep, I recall Louis Larson from Willys
Minneapolis telling me to take it off when its not in use. He told me of
the potential damage that could result if the tow bar dropped and folded
under the engine. He said it wasn't worth the risk.
My 3A has a strap and little strap bar (I don't know what its called) above
the grill slots that can be used to hold the tow bar up if necessary. I
have not used it but rather have taken off the tow bar since the pins can be
pulled quickly.
Regards,
Scott in Saint Paul Minn
49 CJ-3A
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in today's digest:
1. Re: Jeep Woody?
From: RockyRdAdv@...
2. New to List
From: "Cochran, Terry D." <cochrant@...>
3. Re: Modified 2A pics
From: Rick48CJ2A@...
4. Re: Brake Fluid Replacement?
From: "Ed Dyvig" <eddyvig@...>
5. Re: Brake Fluid Replacement?
From: Richard Grover <grover@...>
6. Re: Jeep Woody?
From: Richard Grover <grover@...>
7. Re: Modified 2A pics
From: Merl <hollow@...>
8. Re: Jeep Woody?
From: "Matt Phillimore" <morephi@...>
9. Re: series of A's
From: "Rob Wolfe" <robwolfe@...>
10. Re: late responces to many posts
From: "groberts" <groberts@...>
11. Tow Bars
From: "K. R." <kr98664@...>
12. Re: Tow Bars
From: GEORGEJEEP@...
13. Re: overdrive shifter
From: Rick48CJ2A@...
14. Re: Tow Bars
From: "J.Lewis" <jumper@...>
15. Re: series of A's
From: Reed Cary <recary@...>
16. Re: series of A's
From: Rick48CJ2A@...
17. Driving with the windshield down
From: SextonCris@...
18. Is the stock CJ oil bath air filter any good...
From: "Don Miller" <dkmiller@...>
19. Re: series of A's
From: Reed Cary <recary@...>
20. [Off Topic] Land Rover's Cheap!
From: Tea Herb Farm <therbfrm@...>
21. Re: Driving with the windshield down
From: JIMRUSELL@...
22. Re: Driving with the windshield down
From: Willys1955@...
23. Re: Jeep Woody?
From: Jb48wAgOn@...
24. PU Sheet Metal
From: JIMRUSELL@...
25. Re: Jeep Woody?
From: Jb48wAgOn@...
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:36:11 EDT
From: RockyRdAdv@...
Subject: Re: Jeep Woody?
In the research I've done, they were painted like Woodys to make them
desirable on the market. As one of the first all steel wagons they were
afraid they would be rejected if they did not look similar. I also have
only
seen this scheme in ads, though, one of which I have. The early models
were
flatnosed, this was the reason I purchased my '49. As far as I'm
concerned,
you other guys need nose jobs! ;^)
Vern Heywood
Laguna Hills, CA
'49 Wagon
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:04:07 -0500
From: "Cochran, Terry D." <cochrant@...>
Subject: New to List
Hello All,
I am brand spanking new to this list and just wanted to say hello.
I have loved Jeeps since my first memory of riding in the back of my dad's
62 Utility Wagon
at the young age of 5 (I'm 37 now). Since I was 15 I have never owned
less
than one jeep and sometimes as many as four. I have three right now. One
of which is a 62 Wagon (listed below) that I bought in 1980 and drove
daily
until about 1988. It is stock with the exception of longer shackles to
accommodate slightly larger tires (I was young then). It has been in
storage (my parents barn) since 1988. It hasn't been started for two
years
and won't start right now. I am planning on towing it 100 miles to where
I
live now, putting it in my back garage beside my 78 CJ5 and tinkering
(restoring) it as time and money allow.
Terry Cochran Chatham, IL
93 XJ Country, 4.0, Auto (Stock, New Toy)
78 CJ5, 304, 3sp, BJ Headers, Dual Exhaust,
2.5 Softride Lift, Braided SS Brake Lines,
RS5000s, Warn 8000lb Winch, 33x12.5 BFG MT
on 10" American Racing Aluminum Spokes,
Dual Oil Filters, Custom Tube Rear Bumper
with 2" Receiver, 23 gal Fuel Tank
62 Willys Utility Wagon, 4X4, L6 226, 3sp,
Factory PTO Winch
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From: RockyRdAdv@... [mailto:RockyRdAdv@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WT] Jeep Woody?
From: RockyRdAdv@...
In the research I've done, they were painted like Woodys to make them
desirable on the market. As one of the first all steel wagons they were
afraid they would be rejected if they did not look similar. I also have
only
seen this scheme in ads, though, one of which I have. The early models
were
flatnosed, this was the reason I purchased my '49. As far as I'm
concerned,
you other guys need nose jobs! ;^)
Vern Heywood
Laguna Hills, CA
'49 Wagon
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:22:36 EDT
From: Rick48CJ2A@...
Subject: Re: Modified 2A pics
In a message dated 6/24/99 8:51:17 AM Central Daylight Time,
wbl@...
writes:
<< -----------
My brother just scanned this (my 2A) and mailed it to me.
I'll be off the list for a while after tomorrow, be back
after the 4th.
Off topic. Any recomendations for digital cameras.
Email me, wbl@...
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Sweet looking Jeep. I wish mine looked half that good.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:55:54 -0500
From: "Ed Dyvig" <eddyvig@...>
Subject: Re: Brake Fluid Replacement?
I don't think changing engine oil can be compared to changing brake fluid.
I
change my oil/filter/lube job every 2,000 to 3,000 miles. I'm not proud of
the 152,000 mi brake fluid in my pickup, but personally I think flushing
your brake system every 1 or 2 years is superfluous. Sorry if I offended
anyone, I'm done with the brake fluid subject now! Gotta go scratch some
paint off my CJ!
Ed.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:16:56 -0700
From: Richard Grover <grover@...>
Subject: Re: Brake Fluid Replacement?
Your 74 Ford does not have a vented master cylinder, so I would expect it
to
go further than the a Willys without brake fluid change. There is
anecdotal
evidence on both sides of the issue: cars that ran forever with no
problem,
and cars that had catastrophic brake failure (involving deaths) after only
a
few years.
When my life is as stake, I prefer to err on the side of caution, even if
it
may turn out to be superfluous. I've worn seatbelts all my life, but never
been in an accident where they saved me, at least not yet! :-)
Rick G. in AZ
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From: Ed Dyvig [mailto:eddyvig@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 4:56 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Brake Fluid Replacement?
From: "Ed Dyvig" <eddyvig@...>
I don't think changing engine oil can be compared to changing brake fluid.
I
change my oil/filter/lube job every 2,000 to 3,000 miles. I'm not proud of
the 152,000 mi brake fluid in my pickup, but personally I think flushing
your brake system every 1 or 2 years is superfluous. Sorry if I offended
anyone, I'm done with the brake fluid subject now! Gotta go scratch some
paint off my CJ!
Ed.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:32:37 -0700
From: Richard Grover <grover@...>
Subject: Re: Jeep Woody?
According to what I've read, The first Willys Utility was the 2WD wagon in
'46. The next year ('47) the pickup appeared, available in 2WD or 4WD. The
following year ('48) the Jeepster appeared and in '49 the wagon became
available in 4WD. They originally had hubcaps on both 2WD and 4WD, but as
people went to locking hubs, the hubcaps would no longer fit and most were
discarded from 4WD vehicles. If it has hubcaps, either it has never had
locking hubs added, or it is 2WD.
Rick G. in AZ
PS. For those who haven't already read it, I put together some info last
fall on changes over the years. It can be found at
Paul Barry's booklet has
more info, but mine has more pictures! (Thanks to many of you.) You can
see
some wagons with the contrasting painted panels in the Gallery. (D2, D5,
E9,
C11, D15) I have thought of painting mine that way but with two ugly
colors,
like sand tan and muddy gray. ;-)
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From: Matt Phillimore [mailto:morephi@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 8:03 AM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Jeep Woody?
From: "Matt Phillimore" <morephi@...>
I have been researching this a bit because I am thinking of using this
"color" scheme. I do not think that this was in any way "stock", though I
have no proof. All the ads from the time had the wagons painted in this way. It's
not painted woodgrain, its just a color scheme that from a distance
would "appear" to be just like any actual "woody" station wagon of
the time. I don't know when they quit painting the wagons this way.
<snip>
As to value, I would not pay any more or any less because it had painted on
wood grain. (You need to see it close up because it might look silly :-))
The fact that it is (freshly) painted and looks very straight however makes
the value higher. Keep in mind that it looks to be a 2wd. Has to be 2WD unless converted. 4WD wasn't available until 49.
<snip>
So whats the deal with the grill? Were they flat with no bars in '48? All WIllys had flat grills and no bars until 19501/2 when they
introduced them. Also notice the front of the fenders are flat as
well-no peaks.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:48:49 -0500
From: Merl <hollow@...>
Subject: Re: Modified 2A pics
Bill Lagler wrote:
My brother just scanned this (my 2A) and mailed it to me.
[snip]
Nice. I sure like the looks o' those wheels, real nice
change from the typical spokes or chrome. What size are
they? And what size tires are those in the picture?
Merl, Tejas
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:05:34 +0000
From: "Matt Phillimore" <morephi@...>
Subject: Re: Jeep Woody?
Has to be 2WD unless converted. 4WD wasn't available until 49. I was thinking it was 2wd because of the hub caps but I looked again and
it
has the "4-wheel drive" emblem in the hood. I think. If it isnt, what does
it say?
I think until 1949 it would have said 'Jeep" Station Wagon, or "Jeep"
Station Sedan. At some point they dropped this from the wagons THe
trucks from the period don't say 4 wheel drive, the also say "Jeep"
Truck. The Station Sedan keep the name placard for a little while
after the staion wagon's nameplate was dropped.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:14:54 -0500
From: "Rob Wolfe" <robwolfe@...>
Subject: Re: series of A's
After the serial number on both Ls and Fs. Ls go up to E. But I would
not
doubt that they would stamp the block as they finished them so others
would
know what parts to use where and what to put after the serial number.
They
would want the mark to be some thing that would not rub off. Sounds good
to
me any way.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] series of A's
From: Reed Cary <recary@...>
--- Robert Wolfe <robwolfe@...> wrote:
From: Robert Wolfe <robwolfe@...>
A indicates that both the connecting rod adn main bearing journals are .010"
(.254mm.) undersize
B indicates that the cylinder bores are .010" (.254mm.) oversize.
AB indicates that the bearing journals are .010" undersize and the
cylinder
bores .010" oversize
From 1948 Mechanic's Manual. Yes, but does that Mechanic's Manual tell you it is stamped on the
deck?
(Usually that info comes
as an extention to the serial number)
Reed (CA)
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:12:17 -0400
From: "groberts" <groberts@...>
Subject: Re: late responces to many posts
Sorry for the self-imposed digested delays in responses but here's my
$1.99
worth-
1. brake fluid changing is one of those great sounding things that I
rarely
have time to do -see item 2- I recall a fellow Model A Ford owner on the
list-we don't have that problem but we look a looooong way ahead even at
40
mph(mechanical brakes!)! The silicone in fluid loves water and eats the
system,no way to stop it without changing entire system to non-silicone
fluid.
2. three teenage daughters now(13,14,16) and one phone line but .50 an
hour
for internet access is cheap insurance against teenage boys calling!
3. gear ratio cannot be accurate with both wheels off the ground because
the
spider gears never turn exactly the came,lifting one wheel and turning
that
wheel twice while counting revs on driveshaft should work-a little over 5
1/4 turns should be the 5:38's
4. painting is fun DIY work with acrylic enamel-could be fatal with modern
paints with poor warning properties,you're dead before you notice anything
is wrong-most recommend supplied air respirators not the kind most people
have.(paint is one of my responsibilities at the giant machine shop where
I
work)
5. painting license plates-paint the plate with several coats of the
letter
color,then the body color. Sand with 400 or 600 grit on a big block or
board
to remove the body color from the letters and border. We used this
technique
in auto body class with good results but original plates are sort of
sponge
painted but hard to duplicate.
6. new improved web site up- !!!
Happy four-wheelin'
Gary
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1958 FC-170(resting)
1973 CJ-5(parts)
1972 Cherokee(parts)
1981 CJ-5(new steering stabilizer and bikini top this weekend!)
1988 Suburban(driver and pontoon towdog)
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:20:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: "K. R." <kr98664@...>
Subject: Tow Bars
Dear Friends,
I've been busy mounting the towbar on my jeep. It is
on brackets on the front of a beefed up bumper. I'm
trying to figure out the best way to secure it in the
upright position for normal driving. I don't want to
bother bolting/unbolting the whole towbar.
I'm debating between some sort of locking pin in a
bracket at the bumper or some sort of chain or link up
higher, maybe across to the grill. This towbar won't
flop back against the hood the way it is presently
mounted, so that is not a concern.
Also, any comments about the best place to secure the
safety chains to the frame? There are two empty
threaded holes on the top of the frame horns, just
behind the bumper gussets. Were these holes for
securing the optional bumper weight? I'd like to use
them. I've seen some chains that only went between
the towbar itself and the tow vehicle. I'd like to go
clear to the jeep frame for extra security.
Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Vern
48 CJ2A in Vancouver, WA
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:28:17 EDT
From: GEORGEJEEP@...
Subject: Re: Tow Bars
Use a quick disconect pin set up.
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:29:45 EDT
From: Rick48CJ2A@...
Subject: Re: overdrive shifter
In a message dated 6/23/99 2:16:12 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<<
I have a question about the two oval shaped metal pieces that surround
the
shifter on the jeep model overdrive(you can see them on page nine of the
manual
posted). I can't figure how these things wrap down the side of the
transmission
cover. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated as I still just
have
a
hole and it isn't very clean looking. thanks
arne
>>
Since there's been so much discussion about how OD shifters are installed,
I
decided to take some pictures of how I did mine and post them. The way I
have this mounted I can remove all of the shifter boots and the cover
plate
as one assembly. I made the shifter boots out of black denim and wedged
them
in between my own home made trim rings.
Rick S (TX)
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:33:58 -0400
From: "J.Lewis" <jumper@...>
Subject: Re: Tow Bars
I just use an old fan belt wrapped through the grill and tied into a
granny
knot to hold mine up....seriously. But then again my jeep doesn't go
anywhere.
:)
Jerry (wasting bandwidth with silly comments)
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To: <WillysTech@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 9:20 PM
Subject: [WT] Tow Bars
From: "K. R." <kr98664@...>
Dear Friends,
I've been busy mounting the towbar on my jeep. It is
on brackets on the front of a beefed up bumper. I'm
trying to figure out the best way to secure it in the
upright position for normal driving. I don't want to
bother bolting/unbolting the whole towbar.
I'm debating between some sort of locking pin in a
bracket at the bumper or some sort of chain or link up
higher, maybe across to the grill. This towbar won't
flop back against the hood the way it is presently
mounted, so that is not a concern.
Also, any comments about the best place to secure the
safety chains to the frame? There are two empty
threaded holes on the top of the frame horns, just
behind the bumper gussets. Were these holes for
securing the optional bumper weight? I'd like to use
them. I've seen some chains that only went between
the towbar itself and the tow vehicle. I'd like to go
clear to the jeep frame for extra security.
Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Vern
48 CJ2A in Vancouver, WA
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:50:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Reed Cary <recary@...>
Subject: Re: series of A's
--- Rob Wolfe <robwolfe@...> wrote:
From: "Rob Wolfe" <robwolfe@...>
After the serial number on both Ls and Fs. Ls go up to E. But I would not
doubt that they would stamp the block as they finished them so others would
know what parts to use where and what to put after the serial number. They
would want the mark to be some thing that would not rub off. Sounds good to
me any way. I think you are on the right track: some in-house information. But I can't
see them putting
different sized over-bores in adjacent cylinders.
Reed (CA)
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:22:26 EDT
From: Rick48CJ2A@...
Subject: Re: series of A's
In a message dated 6/24/99 8:50:40 PM Central Daylight Time,
recary@...
writes:
<<
I think you are on the right track: some in-house information. But I
can't
see them putting
different sized over-bores in adjacent cylinders.
Reed (CA) >>
Reed,
As strange as it sounds, I have an old auto repair manual from the late
50s
and it talks about building each cylinder to its own minimum specs. If a
cylinder only required .010 to make it ready for new rings that's all they
took out. If the adjacent cylinder needed .020 that's what it got. They
would then shot peen the pistons to enlarge them and knurl the piston
skirts
to make them fit the newly enlarged cylinders. They didn't recommend
reboring to .030 with new pistons until it became absolutely necessary.
It
would make sense for them to mark the cylinders appropriately.
Rick S (TX)
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:38:32 EDT
From: SextonCris@...
Subject: Driving with the windshield down
Well gang, finally got out for a decent run tonight.
Put on the new fan belt I ordered yesterday (I always thought my fan belt
looked a little wimpy, nice to now have a proper "industrial strength"
one),
and took "Ol' Blue Eyes" to the highways and byways for her first real
cruise
around town and down to the beach in over a year. And she loved it! purred
like a kitten and seemed to really enjoy herself. And anyone who saw me
could
have known how I was feeling by the s**t-eating grin plastered across my
face. I'd forgotten the true joy of tooling around on a perfect summer
evening with the top off, windshield down and the exquisite harmony of a
"go-devil" engine blending with the thrum of NDT tires on tarmac (excuse
me
if I wax lyrical a bit- I just had such a DAMN good time!).
I live in a fairly rich bedroom suburb of New York, and it's so much fun
to
pull up to the light next to a spotty teenager in a brand new Wrangler he
got
for his 16th birthday and see the look of jealousy on his face as he
notices
the admiring looks you're getting from his girlfriend :)
Anyhow, enough of my silliness, on to the question I really wanted to ask-
A friend of mine recently told me that it's illegal to drive in New York
with
the windshield down, something to do with the registration and inspection
sticker not being visible. Does anyone know if this is true? and how about
other states? I've always driven with it down if the weather permits, in
fact
I find it really anoying to drive with it up as at 6'4" the top of the
windshield is directly in my field of vision. I have side mirrors and I
always take the precaution of wearing shop safety glasses (clear ones at
night and a really cool tinted pair that look like Ray Bans during the
day)
as I wear contact lenses.
Maybe I've just been lucky so far. But even if you tell me my friend is
right
I shall continue to lower my windshield until I get pulled over and told
not
to (I've lived here for nearly ten years but still kept my accent, and
I've
found that a little "English eccentric" act works wonders when faced with
the
powers of law enforcement). Just thought I'd ask.....
Cris (still grinning and trying to get the bugs out from between my teeth)
'48 CJ2A "Ol' Blue Eyes"
Rye, NY
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:52:51 -0700
From: "Don Miller" <dkmiller@...>
Subject: Is the stock CJ oil bath air filter any good...
...or should I go to a K and W type reusable (washable) type. My small
paper element clogs after several hours of moderately dusty conditions.
Does the original oil bath do an adequate, poor, or great job? Does oil
ever slosh and cause any problems? If washable is the way to go does
anyone
have the part number to fit the CJ3B? Thanks in advance.
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:01:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Reed Cary <recary@...>
Subject: Re: series of A's
If you say so, Rick. I'll take your word for it. But certainly unlikely
from factory. I don't have
to go into the details of machining to explain what kind of retardant that
would be to production.
But maybe the guy at the corner machine shop practiced this unusual
conservative machining
technique. Though I don't get it. Do you mean that they had a
one-size-fits-all piston, for
example; or that they broke up sets, a .010" over here, a .020" over
there, etc. You can't mean
that in a cylinder bore they just cleaned up and left it there, say .017"
overbore, etc., and then
attempted to fit a piston. Wierd.
Reed (CA)
--- Rick48CJ2A@... wrote:
From: Rick48CJ2A@...
In a message dated 6/24/99 8:50:40 PM Central Daylight Time, recary@...
writes:
<<
I think you are on the right track: some in-house information. But I can't
see them putting
different sized over-bores in adjacent cylinders.
Reed (CA) >>
Reed,
As strange as it sounds, I have an old auto repair manual from the late 50s
and it talks about building each cylinder to its own minimum specs. If a
cylinder only required .010 to make it ready for new rings that's all they
took out. If the adjacent cylinder needed .020 that's what it got. They
would then shot peen the pistons to enlarge them and knurl the piston skirts
to make them fit the newly enlarged cylinders. They didn't recommend
reboring to .030 with new pistons until it became absolutely necessary. It
would make sense for them to mark the cylinders appropriately.
Rick S (TX)
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 02:05:38 -0500
From: Tea Herb Farm <therbfrm@...>
Subject: [Off Topic] Land Rover's Cheap!
Since Willys inspired the creation of Land Rover this is not really too
off
topic. Note the flat grill and fenders and that hood looks familiar
too!!!
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:15:02 EDT
From: JIMRUSELL@...
Subject: Re: Driving with the windshield down
Not sure about the law there, but with a grin like that, what officer of
the
law could cite you? I have found that before the law enforcer brings out
"the book" try to engage them in polite conversation. Then move towards
your
uncommon vehicle and ask obvious questions to let the officer show their
superior knowledge of the vehicle code. This is not being insubordinate,
but
appreciative of their insight. This happened once to me while driving a
highly modified vintage sports car on the public roads. Although it was
registered, it was questionable as to whether it was legal. I was pulled
over for a possible speeding citation, but upon asking for insight about
several aspects of my vehicle, the officer let me off with a verbal
warning
and suggestions for improvement.
Pay the due respect and you should receive the proper common sense
treatment.
Enjoy the ride! By the way, I enjoy pulling up next to fancy shiny
convertible German sports cars, with my Willys that is barely worth the
price
of a new set of tire for the sports car, and rev that Super Hurricane as
if I
am ready to race. It's worth the price of admission to see the looks. :)
Jim
56 PU L6 226
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:21:52 EDT
From: Willys1955@...
Subject: Re: Driving with the windshield down
in maine we're only allowed to drive with the windshield down for off-road
purposes, obviously only "off-road". i've wondered the same, so i called
up
the local pd. that's what they said, and for other people's safety, not
only
mine. you know, a wicked big bug could land itself in my eye and i could
run
someone down. makes sense stubbornness aside. i was driving a buddy of
mine's '73 toyota land cruiser around town with the windshield down and
when
i saw the blues reflecting off the mailboxes i quickly turned into the
ditch,
but my "but sir, i AM off-road" plea did me no good. fortunately i got
off
with a verbal warning.
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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:33:32 EDT
From: Jb48wAgOn@...
Subject: Re: Jeep Woody?
i have a '48 wagon and the grill is almost flat, but it has a slight angle
to
it. and the bars are the same as the later models.
Josh Brown
California
48 station wagon
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:27:34 EDT
From: JIMRUSELL@...
Subject: PU Sheet Metal
Getting ready to get a paint job for my 56 PU
A-18
But I need a few sheet metal parts. Any suggestions for a source to get a
left front fender, right rear fender and passenger door. I will post to
the
bulletin board also, but I would like to buy NOS or new if available or
non
rusted used. I have checked Willys America and they seemed to have new
tail
gates and beds only.
Just a thought, Rick Grover, any of these in your secret stash or at the
yard
you know of? I could have my folks swing by on their way from Tucson to
CA.
Dad would love the adventure.
Thanks all.
Jim
56 PU L6 226 Scraping rust and getting ready to paint.
CA
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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:43:55 EDT
From: Jb48wAgOn@...
Subject: Re: Jeep Woody?
mine also says 'jeep'StationWagon on the hood emblem-48
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Re: Driving with the windshield down
You can avoid the ticket with a world war one flying ace leather helmet and
goggles.... Scarf optional...........
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Well gang, finally got out for a decent run tonight.
Put on the new fan belt I ordered yesterday (I always thought my fan belt
looked a little wimpy, nice to now have a proper "industrial strength" one), and took "Ol' Blue Eyes" to the highways and byways for her first real cruise around town and down to the beach in over a year. And she loved it! purred
like a kitten and seemed to really enjoy herself. And anyone who saw me could have known how I was feeling by the s**t-eating grin plastered across my
face. I'd forgotten the true joy of tooling around on a perfect summer
evening with the top off, windshield down and the exquisite harmony of a
"go-devil" engine blending with the thrum of NDT tires on tarmac (excuse me
if I wax lyrical a bit- I just had such a DAMN good time!).
I live in a fairly rich bedroom suburb of New York, and it's so much fun to
pull up to the light next to a spotty teenager in a brand new Wrangler he got for his 16th birthday and see the look of jealousy on his face as he notices the admiring looks you're getting from his girlfriend :)
Anyhow, enough of my silliness, on to the question I really wanted to ask-
A friend of mine recently told me that it's illegal to drive in New York with the windshield down, something to do with the registration and inspection
sticker not being visible. Does anyone know if this is true? and how about
other states? I've always driven with it down if the weather permits, in fact I find it really anoying to drive with it up as at 6'4" the top of the
windshield is directly in my field of vision. I have side mirrors and I
always take the precaution of wearing shop safety glasses (clear ones at
night and a really cool tinted pair that look like Ray Bans during the day)
as I wear contact lenses.
Maybe I've just been lucky so far. But even if you tell me my friend is right I shall continue to lower my windshield until I get pulled over and told not to (I've lived here for nearly ten years but still kept my accent, and I've
found that a little "English eccentric" act works wonders when faced with the powers of law enforcement). Just thought I'd ask.....
Cris (still grinning and trying to get the bugs out from between my teeth)
'48 CJ2A "Ol' Blue Eyes"
Rye, NY
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WARNING: The following note contains scenes unfit for all audiences.
I have seen good doors in junkyards. Also several flat front fenders. Fewer
rear fenders. There aren't very many Willys vehicles in junk yards around
Phoenix. One pickup with good rear fenders and two doors was crushed two
years ago. Aaaaiiiiiiieeeeeuuuuu.......
(Did you feel the ripple in the force?)
It was there in the spring. I went back in the fall for some parts to find
it gone! "Where is the Willys?" "Oh, I crushed it." "You what!?" I was
speechless. I was more than angry, it made me sick. The worst horror I had
experienced in years.
Rick G. in AZ
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From: JIMRUSELL@...
Getting ready to get a paint job for my 56 PU
A-18
But I need a few sheet metal parts. Any suggestions for a source to get a
left front fender, right rear fender and passenger door. I will post to the
bulletin board also, but I would like to buy NOS or new if available or non
rusted used. I have checked Willys America and they seemed to have new tail
gates and beds only.
Just a thought, Rick Grover, any of these in your secret stash or at the
yard
you know of? I could have my folks swing by on their way from Tucson to CA.
Dad would love the adventure.
Thanks all.
Jim
56 PU L6 226 Scraping rust and getting ready to paint.
CA
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Jim - there is a salvage yard in Tucson called Mission Auto Parts,
(520)574-0360, on Drexel behind Davis Monthan AFB that usually has a lot of
old Willys and Jeeps. Then 200 yards down the road is Jack's Gov't Surplus
Trucks, lots of old military Jeeps and trucks and old Dodge military
vehicles and some of the trailers for behind the Jeeps. I need to go back
and nose around in there with my camera.
Scott, Tucson AZ
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Getting ready to get a paint job for my 56 PU
A-18
But I need a few sheet metal parts. Any suggestions for a source to get a
left front fender, right rear fender and passenger door. I will post to the
bulletin board also, but I would like to buy NOS or new if available or non
rusted used. I have checked Willys America and they seemed to have new tail
gates and beds only.
Just a thought, Rick Grover, any of these in your secret stash or at the yard
you know of? I could have my folks swing by on their way from Tucson to CA.
Dad would love the adventure.
Thanks all.
Jim
56 PU L6 226 Scraping rust and getting ready to paint.
CA
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I just bought a 1955 Willys pickup, I'm interested in knowing other people
with pickups for information on whether to restore or convert it to a 4x4
off-road machine. The pickup is in about 90% original condition with all
good condition parts, but it has a V-8 motor. I'm still researching the
V.I.N. numbers as well as planning an attack strategy.
I made the mistake of buying a 1972 Jeep C-J 5 without research, it cost me
a lot of money and even more time, but the results were worth the effort. I
would just like to get more info and sugestions before I "Dive In"!
Thanks - Paul
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hey guys,
How is driving with the windshield down any different than ride a motorbike?
Steph
Ontario.
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Hi...
If your are interested, here is a summary of my wife's
"Surprise-Ice-Skate" event yesterday, given by many of you through
Willys parts sales. If not interested, just delete.
Did I win any "Willys Points"? Not on purpose. :)
Your friend,
Dave
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
SHORT VERSION
[Skip if reading the Long Version]
We really fooled my wife with a surprise gift, custom ice skates. She
had no clue. We drove to the skate factory, and she had the time of
her life. The man took 2.5 hours to get her all setup. I confessed to
her how I had raised the money [Buying and selling Jeep parts]. She
was even complimentary about the two Jeeps I had purchased to pull
this off [With some help from my friend. Thanks Rollie!]. In four
weeks, the new custom made skates will arrive at our door. Thanks to
many of you who bought parts!
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LONG VERSION
Recall, our family of four went on an express trip to Minnesota
yesterday, a surprise for my wife, so she could get her long dreamed
of custom figure skates. I had bought and sold Jeep parts, and quietly
saved away my wedding and funeral stipends for this.
Therese knew I had "an event" planned for the last week [I tried to
get her boss in on the trick, but she would not budge. Her boss
insisted I tell Therese in advance that she would be taking a day off
so she could be caught up]. Yet, Therese had no details.
She tried guessing.
About 5 days ago, Therese had guessed that I had bought her a Jeep.
Why was it that when I told her, "That's not it honey, I did not buy
you a Jeep", that she was relieved? Hmmm.
Yesterday, June 24, 1999, could not have been better in any way. The
weather, the driving, the surprise, and the custom fitting itself. All
ideal! We drove rather than flew, as the morning started with fog. Our
pilot friend said, "It might clear, it might not. You decide." Having
all things set, the vacation day for my wife, the suspense, the
appointment at the factory... I took no risk on missing this. By
driving, our two boys, 17 and 15, could come along with us. I was glad
they could, they were in on this from the start and had been super
secret keepers all along.
As the family was getting ready in the morning, I got out my wife's
old English riding helmet and riding boots. She had taken lessons when
we lived in up-state NY. She was so hungry for information, she bit on
that like a fish on a rubber worm. It worked. She suddenly became
convinced we were going horseback riding. We played along. Her
anticipation spawed big ideas. She later confessed she had been
guessing and hoping she was getting a colt as a gift, and we were
driving to get it. [Hmmm, another idea! That would take the purchase
and resale of many more Jeeps to accomplish, and then, land, barn,
hay, stall... I do like Jeeps.]
Upon arrival in Red Wing, Minnesota, Therese was told she might have
to close her eyes, on command, at any moment. After driving through
this most-congested small town I had ever seen, we were nearing the
factory. As it was spotted, the boys shouted, "Close your eyes!". She
did, under protest. We parked. Led her to the door, making her look
down. Therese was still in the dark. She was expecting a farm or
ranch.
Out of earshot of Therese, I told the receptionist we were here to
meet, "Lee Olson", our contact man, the fellow who would be making the
skates. The receptionist said, "We don't have anyone here by that
name." I asked, without Therese hearing, "Is this the Riedell Shoe
Company?" The receptionist said, "No, this is the Red Wing Shoe
Company. The Riedell factory is across the street, right there.", as
she pointed out the window.
By this time, the protest by Therese about "not looking up" had
reached a breaking point. She was asking, "He [The guy with horses]
lives here [by these big brick factory like buildings]?"
We took her outside, and spilled the beans.
We had her read the words on that building across the street. Through
the dangling tree branches she read, "The Riedell Shoe Company", but
she did not see the words below it, "Creative Skate Design". She was
still clueless. We had to add information. We then handed her small
package and a card. She opened both. The small box contained a nice
bright sweater pin that said, "ICE SKATER". She began to understand.
We added, "You are here to get new skates". She smiled brightly, but
was still not fully comprehending. She was wondering what horses have
to do with skates.
If the mission were to fool her, we did it.
We re-parked the van at the correct factory. We all got out, with
relief for having made it just 2 minutes after the appointment time.
Therese said, "But I don't know what brand to pick?" We said, "Honey,
you don't have to pick a brand, we are at the factory". This was still
sinking in.
We went inside. The receptionist was expecting us, and greeted us by
name with a smile. While we waited for Lee Olson to answer his page,
we looked around the small waiting area. There was a large signed
picture of Peggy Fleming, an Olympic star of 3 decades ago. Therese
had met Peggy when she came to her childhood skating club in Canada.
Inside a trophy case was a picture of Michelle Quan, a recent Olympic
winner, Kurt Browning and several others.
Lee Olson, the man we had the appointment with, came out and greeted
us. After the handshakes, he welcomed us drive-weary pilgrims to
follow him. Right into the factory we went. The sewing machines,
presses and gadgets were all operating by loyal employees as far back
as the eye could see. On racks were hockey skates, figure skates and
other styles too [It's hard to tell what something is going to be when
you only see a leather-form being sewn]. It was an awesome sight.
Then, our little parade took us through the company break room, then
into the warehouse with squared mountains of boxed inventory and
finally into a small air conditioned room.
In this room there were just enough seats for the fitter, the fittee
and the audience of three.
For the next two and a half hours Therese was the queen. It was
finally hitting her. She was going to be skating again. There was no
colt, no farm, no family horse riding day. The riding helmet and boots
were a bluff. She knew that for sure now. This was her day.
Lee, a humble man with old fashioned skills and a personality to
match, made Therese feel like she was a literally pro. We three boys
asked Lee, "Have you made skates for anyone famous?" He would never
have said anything about such, unless asked. Humbly and softly
replying, "I made Michelle Quan's skates and Kurt Browning's". "Did
you fit Michelle here?", us boys asked. "No, they flew me out to her",
he said.
We knew, we had come to the right place.
The fitting went on, a measurement here, a measurement there. The
boots would be tailor made for her exact foot, providing the finest of
all fits. Therese had to make a score of important choices on such
things as boot thickness, height, lining type, color, types of
lace-hooks, heel height, waterproofing on the sole, the type of foam
on the tongue and inner padding, and many more things unknown to us
before. She made those decisions, confidently.
Taking it all in she said, "This is a nice experience." That was worth
a million dollars!
Lee explained that he would be the person that would create her skate,
from end to end, from start to finish. He would cut the finest
leather, right from the whole cowhide. He would be Therese's own
master craftsman.
After the measurement for her feet and her many many choices, the next
decision was the blade. There are two professional blade companies,
both in England. With a two catalogs of just blades, this would not be
an easy task. Blades vary in design for dance, jumping, recreational
skating, freestyle, and so on. Lee brought several pairs into our
little room. Wrapped in thick wax paper, in computer-ribbon size
boxes, we were amazed at the quality, the smooth welds, the plating
and especially the toe-pick teeth. After much discussion, Lee
consulted a blade expert who made a recommendation for Therese. We
took his advice.
As Therese stood in this room, wearing an off-the-shelf pair, just for
size, she looked down at the boots with their solid fit, and said, "I
could get used to this".
If the mission were to make her happy, we did it.
After the fitting, Lee toured us around the factory, now dark, as the
employees had gone home. The machines were quiet. They needed a rest
just like their operators. Lee told us the factory producest five
hundred pairs of skates a day. Lee averages one pair of custom skates
a day.
We had a meal out at a hotel, and were soon off toward home again. In
four weeks the UPS man will be at our door, and there will be smiles
again.
Now, to get Therese to really like Jeeps. But then, I think she
already does.
It was an event we will never forget... and thanks for sharing the fun
with us!
Dave
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Dave, I read the long version and really enjoyed it. My cell phone and
airline tickets I bought for my wife's birthday seem kinda puny now.
Rick S (TX)
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I would like to thank Rick for his T-90 rebuild instructions, they were great. Being a retired unemployed disabled American veteran it was good to have easy to follow instructions. I'm in need of instructions on how to replace the balls and springs in the shift tower? I can get one side out, however the other side I can't remove.
John D. (OK)
M-38
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<< I would like to thank Rick for his T-90 rebuild instructions, they were
great. Being a retired unemployed disabled American veteran it was good to
have easy to follow instructions. I'm in need of instructions on how to
replace the balls and springs in the shift tower? I can get one side out,
however the other side I can't remove.
John D. (OK)
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John,
I avoided that thing like the plague for about 4 months because I was afraid
I would mess it up. Since then I have pulled mine apart and rebuilt it but
it was so difficult I didn't write it up the first time. It took all of my
energy just to take it apart and put it back together again. I'll try to do
it again this weekend and write the instructions down this time. Watch out
for those detent balls, they go a long way if they shoot out of there. Did
you get both shift rods out?
Rick S (TX)
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From: Rick48CJ2A@...
Sweet looking Jeep. I wish mine looked half that good.
Thanks. I'm sure your's looks better than mine when I started. This jeep was way past being restorable, I've got well over 1000hrs into this jeep and I own or have direct access to just about any tool I need including a spray booth. For the next one I'm building a jeep from pieces from a bunch of jeeps, problem is now that I have kids it's a lot harder to come up with the 1000 free hours. Bill 47cj2a
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For Sale: 49/50 Willys Jeep SW 4x$
Hello friends,
I found this in a central Ohio Newspaper...
49/50 Willys Jeep SW 4x4.
Low mileage since restored. Trophy winner. $14,900.
Call 740-965-3023.
One of us should give this one a good home.
Who has room in their garage? Ha!
Drooling about another Willys...
Tom
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From: "K. R." <kr98664@...>
I've been busy mounting the towbar on my jeep. It is
on brackets on the front of a beefed up bumper. I'm
trying to figure out the best way to secure it in the
upright position for normal driving. I don't want to
bother bolting/unbolting the whole towbar. My dad set mine up - angled brackets on the bumper, to secure it *big* nuts&bolts with a hole through the bolt and a cotter key for the hole. This way you only have to hand-tighten the nut enough to get the pin through the hole. The tow bar pulls on and off so fast I'd rather just do that than figure out a way to secure it up (besides bungees..) and look around it. This setup has worked for a good 20 years.
Also, any comments about the best place to secure the
safety chains to the frame?
Mine run from the towdog to the bumper of the Jeep. I guess it assumes a weak spot won't include the bumper, just the tow bar or something in the hitching setup. Mike Boyink Holland, MI 1966 CJ5 1983 6.2 GMC Rally Van (towdog)
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Merl wrote:
From: Merl <hollow@...>
Bill Lagler wrote:
My brother just scanned this (my 2A) and mailed it to me.
[snip]
Nice. I sure like the looks o' those wheels, real nice
change from the typical spokes or chrome. What size are
they? And what size tires are those in the picture?
32 x 11.50 on 15 x 8 Kelsey Hayes wheels, pn 79005 I think. The wheels are original Jeep wheels from the late 60's, early 70's, they only fit drum brakes. I think they were part of the Renegade package in '69, later Renegades like the '74 I had came with the 15 x 7 aluminum slots. I'm to young to remember but I don't think white spokes were available back then. I think Jackman's (cool looking real white spokes) were the first in the early/mid 70's but probably more readily available on the west coast. Here in the east if you wanted wide wheels the easiest and cheapest was to go down to the local jeep dealer and pick up a set of 8" KH's probably. I've had one set for years and put them on my '47 in '91 when I built it and in the last year managed to pick up two more sets of four. Now I've got 12 of them, enough for my two jeeps plus spares. I've only ever paid $10 to $15 per wheel but you have to find them first. Bill 47cj2a
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