I'm not getting lost but I'm not sure about some of my stuff. From August of 1986 until October of 2019 I knew where everything was in my 600 sq ft shop. Now I have more than 1500 sq ft of shop and I'm still wandering around wondering where I put certain tools. The 2 propane furnaces sure make working out there comfortable during the cold Washington winter. Plus the upstairs reloading room has a flat screen, blu-ray, coffee maker and 1/2 bath. Retirement is great. I highly recommend it. ;-)

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:28 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io

<pruitg@...> wrote:

More like you, John.

However, they could have picked a junker.

Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have.

Pruit

On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy@...> wrote:

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230

<pavelb@...> wrote:

This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
>?
> Skip
>?
>?
>?
>?

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230

<pavelb@...> wrote:

This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:41 PM, m w

<hp9@...> wrote:

Nice pics. This is mine

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:32 PM, Benjamin Deasis

<bens33ford@...> wrote:

Yeah, let’s go! Just like the old days with Landon! The modifying monkeys versus the stock purists. Come on people, let’s feed these flames!

On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:22 PM, bruce parks <b.w.parks@...> wrote:

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If one is so goddamned talented that they can cut up a classic, why can't they just make their own POS from scratch?? I will tell you why...because they are wreckers, not builders.? Makes me nauseous.

??

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:42 AM John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:

Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via

<pruitg=[email protected]> wrote:

Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)
>
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> John
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> '56 Pickup TKER TOY
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> Graham, Wash.

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On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:10 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy@...> wrote:

I'm not getting lost but I'm not sure about some of my stuff. From August of 1986 until October of 2019 I knew where everything was in my 600 sq ft shop. Now I have more than 1500 sq ft of shop and I'm still wandering around wondering where I put certain tools. The 2 propane furnaces sure make working out there comfortable during the cold Washington winter. Plus the upstairs reloading room has a flat screen, blu-ray, coffee maker and 1/2 bath. Retirement is great. I highly recommend it. ;-)

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:28 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via?

<pruitg@...> wrote:

More like you, John.

However, they could have picked a junker.

Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have.

Pruit

On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via??<tkertoy@...> wrote:

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230

<pavelb@...> wrote:

This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
>?
> Skip
>?
>?
>?
>?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:28 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io

<pruitg@...> wrote:

More like you, John.

However, they could have picked a junker.

Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have.

Pruit

On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy@...> wrote:

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230

<pavelb@...> wrote:

This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
>?
> Skip
>?
>?
>?
>?

On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy@...> wrote:

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230

<pavelb@...> wrote:

This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
>?
> Skip
>?
>?
>?
>?

?

Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230

<pavelb@...> wrote:

This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.

Cheers, Pavel up North.

ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?

On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:

> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
>
> Skip
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I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?

Skip

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:32 PM, Benjamin Deasis

<bens33ford@...> wrote:

Yeah, let’s go! Just like the old days with Landon! The modifying monkeys versus the stock purists. Come on people, let’s feed these flames!

On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:22 PM, bruce parks <b.w.parks@...> wrote:

?

If one is so goddamned talented that they can cut up a classic, why can't they just make their own POS from scratch?? I will tell you why...because they are wreckers, not builders.? Makes me nauseous.

??

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:42 AM John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:

Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via

<pruitg=[email protected]> wrote:

Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)
>
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> John
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> '56 Pickup TKER TOY
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> Graham, Wash.

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On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:22 PM, bruce parks <b.w.parks@...> wrote:

?

If one is so goddamned talented that they can cut up a classic, why can't they just make their own POS from scratch?? I will tell you why...because they are wreckers, not builders.? Makes me nauseous.

??

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:42 AM John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:

Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.

John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via

<pruitg=[email protected]> wrote:

Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)
>
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> John
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> '56 Pickup TKER TOY
>
> Graham, Wash.

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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io

<pruitg@...> wrote:

Sorry John, what a FU.
Pruit

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via groups.io <tkertoy=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)
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> Graham, Wash.

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On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via groups.io <tkertoy@...> wrote:

Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-)


John

'56 Pickup TKER TOY

Graham, Wash.