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Re: Back -up Lights

Ronald L. Cook
 

Rick,
I had two 1800's. A 68 and a 71. The trouble is, I bought them both
in the late 70's, so the possibility of them having an original
transmission still in them is about nil. However, both trucks were gone
from my ownership by the mid 80's. IH is alot like Willys, however.
The same parts are used for a long production time. I think this
particular transmission was a Clark. Many manufacturers of trucks use
the Clark. Chevrolet and GMC single axle of around 2 1/2 ton rated.

Ron


Re: 'Ya gotta see this.

 

well I am in for one .
Tim Lankins (Wantin' a stock GPW)


Re: Taking the "Windshield Down" thread way outta here

Todd Murray
 

This is known as WD-40 air conditioning. Windshield down, 40 mph!

At 09:50 PM 6/27/99 EDT, you wrote:
As the one who started this thread I should let you know that I went for a
glorious Sunday afternoon drive today, with the windshield DOWN and "damn
the
torpedos!" (but of course wearing my cool tinted safety glasses from
Woodworkers Warehouse).

In 90+ temperatures (and fairly high humidity) you can keep your
air-conditioning! I'll just don shorts and a t-shirt, drop my windshield and
cool off as God intended us to- "the Willys Way".

On my return I decided to snap a few shots of "Ol' Blue Eyes" and threw
together a bit of a collage. So if you're interested, here are a few views
of
her with windshield in both the recumbent and erect conditions.

Cris
'48 CJ2A
Rye, NY

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Re: Tow Bars

 

Count me in on the OLD IRON run..
Steve and Roger in Big Rapids MI


Re: Horn Assemble

Jerry Stoper
 

David
thank you very much for the post! As they say, one picture is worth 1K words. My horn assy. came in a box of misc. parts. My
49 has a Ivory plastic part that is attached to the Ring, maybe it's the Cap, but it looks different from your picture.
Jerry (AR)

David Hoelzeman wrote:

Jim,

How's this work? This is out of a '50-51 parts catalog but I believe
it's the same for all of the pickups and wagons. If you have trouble
finding a button I may have an extra one floating around somewhere.
I'll check this weekend when I'm at my folks and my rather limited
parts pile.

What may not be obvious from the pic is: Screws (#11) attach Ring (#3)
to the steering wheel. The Pins (#2) fit in the rubber blocks (anybody
know where to find the blocks? My ring is good but the rubber, well,
50 years ain't been kind to it) with the pins extending slightly in the
center. The Button (#1) slides in the middle of the pins lightly
locking in holes in the Button. Cup (#4) fits in the bottom middle of
the Button (#1) and washer (#5) is, if I remember correctly, is under
the steering wheel nut. Parts 6-10 are all part of the wire. Cup (#4)
makes the connection between the wire and the ground.

David
'50 4WD Pickup

On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:47:32 EDT, JIMRUSELL@... wrote:

From: JIMRUSELL@...

I would also like to restore my horn assembly. I don't even have the button.
Would someone mind posting a diagram of the assembly or better yet, pictures
of the real thing?

Thanks,

Jim
56 PU L6 226 Using a wire against the stearing wheel nut to honk....;)
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Re: Tow Bars

Mike Boyink
 

From: Frank Sanborn <fsanborn@...>
My CJ-5 isn't a Willys, but it sure was fun roaring around on the dunes
today (Mike Boyink knows what I'm talkiing about :o) ).
Ummm...Lately I haven't roared around the dunes so much as make big
snapping, clanking sounds, then some semi-under-the-breath vocal noises,
then limping out of the dunes with my flag between my wheels...so to
speak...:)

Glad you had fun - we should plan an early fall "old iron" run!

Mike Boyink
Holland, MI
1966 CJ5
1983 6.2 GMC Rally Van (towdog)
(both at the shop for tranny work this a.m.)


Re: Willys Tool W-139

 

In a message dated 6/28/99 11:55:20 AM Central Daylight Time,
jeffgent@... writes:

<<
You're a genious. Simple, cheap, and effective -- there's nothing
better. This was the biggest problem I had in getting my xfer apart,
and my SM420 as well. I spent hours working through this problem. You
can be sure that I'll remember this for the next time around, I'll even
be sure to pick up an extra one or two at the next auction I go to. I
especially dig the notion of exploiting the inferior steel of the
cheaper axe.

Well done. >>

Jeff,
It looks bigger in the picture that it really is. It's really just a hatchet
not an ax. I'm glad to be of service for new ideas.

Rick


Re: tranny identify

Parshall Theodore J
 

Arne,
I know you got an answer to your question that the Saginaw is different than
the sm420, however, here is a bit more info.

The Saginaw was used in many vehicles, including cars w/ small block Chevy
engines. While it is not a truck transmission, it is reasonably strong, and
has 4 synchronized gears. Depending upon what car/engine combination the
transmission comes from, there were several sets of gear ratios available.
A trans from an early Vega, for instance, came with a respectable 3.5 : 1
first gear - that is a three line transmission. A two line transmission has
a 3.1 first. The lines refer to grooves cut into the spline on the input
shaft to the trans, used for identification.

The Saginaws are relatively cheap - I just bought one for my FC170 for $158.
AA makes adapters for the transfer case. The Saginaw bolts up to any
relatively recent Chevy engine and is certainly worth looking at if you are
not looking for a 90:1 low gear ratio for climbing verticle walls.

Ted, FC170's, WI

-----Original Message-----
From: Arne Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 5:54 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: [WT] tranny identify

From: Arne Anderson <[email protected]>

I am just curious if a GM Saginaw 4-speed is the same thing as a sm420

arne


Re: rear main seal

Kendal Jackson
 

At 04:43 PM 6/27/99 -0700, you wrote:
. . . something about needing to thread the new seal with a thin piece of
wire, whereby >one can bend it and carefully feed it around the lowered
crankshaft. But I've never >done it with the engine installed.

Napa sells a kit for this. Kinda neat really and should have worked very
well. It consist of a puller that is a headless screw driver that has a hole
instead, a wire with a "Chinese finger torture" type device on the end that
you use to thread a new rope seal through the groove and a couple of
flexible pieces of steel in case of trouble getting the seal to set properly.

Unfortunately when I pulled on the seal, the whole oil guard slid right out
in one easy motion. I simply installed the new seal as prescribed in the
book and slid the guard back in. All in all, took about 20min.

Did it fix the leak? Nope :-)



Kendal Jackson
--It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular level I'm
really quite busy--


Re: willys woodies

Kendal Jackson
 

At 10:52 PM 6/27/99 -0700, you wrote:
From: "Morris G. Hill" <mgh@...>

Except for dusting, I'd leave it alone. The fabric is likely to be fragile,
and the thread stitches holding it to the bows are probably rotten. It's
probably not as dirty as it looks, but rather is faded and yellowed from
age.
Thats the amazing thing, it isn't rotten at all nor even very fragile. The
windlace is in much worse shape. I do not really understand why it is still
so "intact" but everyone who sees Hugh their first reaction usually is "wow,
nice headliner!".

It is yellowed, this is true, but it is very dirty as well. Stains,
nicotine, etc... Nates wife suggested a vegetable based cleaner but have not
tried it yet. I am a little afraid to do much to it.

Kendal Jackson
--It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular level I'm
really quite busy--


Re: willys woodies

Morris G. Hill
 

Except for dusting, I'd leave it alone. The fabric is likely to be fragile,
and the thread stitches holding it to the bows are probably rotten. It's
probably not as dirty as it looks, but rather is faded and yellowed from
age.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kendal Jackson <jacksoti@...>
To: WillysTech@... <WillysTech@...>
Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WT] willys woodies


From: Kendal Jackson <jacksoti@...>

At 09:19 AM 6/26/99 -0700, you wrote:
From: "Morris G. Hill" <mgh@...>
...it was the "woven paper" coarse
weave stuff that came on all Willys wagons, at least all the ones I saw
from
the 1940's and 1950's. I tried to find the headliner stuff about 12 years
ago, because the original headliner in my 1956 wagon was beyond reasonable
salvage, but lots of calls later I had managed to learn only that this
"woven paper" as they called it in the trade (1) had been cheap and not
very
durable; (2) hadn't been made in years, and (3) besides Willys, had only
been used by Ford in their woodies around the 1940 period.
Cool! this is what appears to be the headliner in my Wagon and it is in
excellent condition. It is very dirty however. Anyone have any ideas on now
to clean it and not destroy it in the process?

I test-drove the1954 6-85 wagon and it ran and looked good, but I couldn't
afford the >$175 the owner wanted for it.

DOH!!


Kendal Jackson
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Re: Horn Assemble

David Hoelzeman
 

Jim,

How's this work? This is out of a '50-51 parts catalog but I believe
it's the same for all of the pickups and wagons. If you have trouble
finding a button I may have an extra one floating around somewhere.
I'll check this weekend when I'm at my folks and my rather limited
parts pile.

What may not be obvious from the pic is: Screws (#11) attach Ring (#3)
to the steering wheel. The Pins (#2) fit in the rubber blocks (anybody
know where to find the blocks? My ring is good but the rubber, well,
50 years ain't been kind to it) with the pins extending slightly in the
center. The Button (#1) slides in the middle of the pins lightly
locking in holes in the Button. Cup (#4) fits in the bottom middle of
the Button (#1) and washer (#5) is, if I remember correctly, is under
the steering wheel nut. Parts 6-10 are all part of the wire. Cup (#4)
makes the connection between the wire and the ground.

David
'50 4WD Pickup

On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:47:32 EDT, JIMRUSELL@... wrote:

From: JIMRUSELL@...

I would also like to restore my horn assembly. I don't even have the button.
Would someone mind posting a diagram of the assembly or better yet, pictures
of the real thing?

Thanks,

Jim
56 PU L6 226 Using a wire against the stearing wheel nut to honk....;)
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Re: Backup again

Morris G. Hill
 

That's basically the idea for how I rigged backup lights on the T-90
transmission in my wagon. I did it by making an angle bracket which is held
in place by the 2 rear transmission cover bolts. The bracket holds a
standard aftermarket starter push button switch up against the hole for the
first/reverse shift rail. The rail pushes in the switch button when the
shift lever is in reverse. I was afraid the push button might get clogged
with dirt, etc., and that such a simple set-up might not work for very long,
but 12 years later it still works perfectly every time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald L. Cook <rlcook@...>
To: WillysTech@... <WillysTech@...>
Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 10:58 PM
Subject: [WT] Backup again


From: "Ronald L. Cook" <rlcook@...>

I am getting to be like Vern, and I am just using my fax line. Have no
daughter at home anymore. But, why not just use the end of the shifter
shaft rail to operate a switch. When you shift into reverse, the shaft
goes back and seeing as how you have no expansion plugs there, just
machine some way to hold a switch. The old KISS method just may work
here.

Ron, should be going to bed
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Re: Back -up Lights

Ronald L. Cook
 

I hunted up the shifter tower from a 5-speed out of one of my IH 1800
trucks I used to have. Sure enough, there was a backup light switch on
it. There are no markings on the switch, so I can't tell you what it
is. It incorporates a ball in the part that screws in the top of the
cover, but since it is activated by the reverse shift fork raising the
ball(instead of dropping in a notch in the shifter rail) it is a
normally open switch. Pretty simple deal. Threaded hole in the right
place with the right switch screwed in.

Ron


Re: Frank's T-case

Reed Cary
 

Rick, What a neat way to do a service diagnosis! Now we can all share. I was looking over your
shoulder here, and I noticed the worn gear seems to be without the holes or grooves to allow oil
to lubricate the bearing surface of gear against shoulder of the shaft. Is it worn away on the bad
gear? (One can't tell depth in the picture) Perhaps it's the cause of the failure.

Reed (CA)

--- Rick48CJ2A@... wrote:
From: Rick48CJ2A@...

Well Frank, I've got some good new and some bad news. I guess I'll start with
some of the good news first. The transfer case is cleaned up and dismantled
in the basement. Most parts appear to be in good shape although I think we
should throw a new set of bearings at it. Your intermediate shaft and
bearings will work just fine with this gear and your new caged bearings
should work with this shaft as well. Taking your other transfer case apart
though may ruin your new seals and gaskets. If you want I can go ahead and
order a new set of them and then if we don't need them in yours we can put
them in mine.

Now for the bad news. Take a look at this gear:

It is supposed to look like this:

Fortunately, these two gears are the same, even down to the part number. The
good one came out of the Dana 20, so it looks like it was good for something
after all :


Now for the rest of the bad news. This is the shaft that the gear rides on:

See the spalling on the shaft? It should look like this:

Now Frank, Before you get your hopes up, the shafts are not the same:

I don't know it this shaft can be traded out of your other case or not. I
would think the shafts were the same with just the gears being different, but
without yours here to compare it's hard to tell. All of the damage to the
shaft is added metal from the gear. I was out at Alvin Jackson Transmissions
this week and they were turning shaft that had the same kind of damage on a
lath. If you want, I can take this one out to him and have it turned. I
think it would be fine after that.

The rest of the T-case is in very good shape. I'm not sure yet what caused
the damage that you have but I'm looking into it.

I'll try to get back to you tomorrow.

Rick S (TX)
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Re: Back -up Lights

 

In a message dated 6/27/99 11:33:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
rlcook@... writes:

<<
I hunted up the shifter tower from a 5-speed out of one of my IH 1800
trucks I used to have. Sure enough, there was a backup light switch on
it. There are no markings on the switch, so I can't tell you what it
is. It incorporates a ball in the part that screws in the top of the
cover, but since it is activated by the reverse shift fork raising the
ball(instead of dropping in a notch in the shifter rail) it is a
normally open switch. Pretty simple deal. Threaded hole in the right
place with the right switch screwed in.

Ron >>

Ron,
I spent some more time tonight looking at the shift tower. When I wrote
earlier I was operating from my memory which is not very good sometimes.
That's why I write everything down. :-)

Anyway the shift rod does have a detent groove in it but it will not make
contact with the switch location when reverse is activated. This is a good
thing because the when you shift to 1st gear the rod moves out from under the
switch boss all together. This means that a switch just like the one you
described would work perfectly in my tranny. Do you know what year IH it
came out of?

Rick S (TX)

I can feel those backup lights coming fast. :-)


Re: rear main seal

 

I am assuming that my rear main seal is going. I wanted to ask if anybody
has changed this and what are the potential hazards of not changing it
right
away. I checked the faq's on this but no luck. Oh yeah the motor is a
fhead. Thanks. Any help is greatly appreciated.
I must say pain in the butt. The drawbacks to waiting are 1)you need check
your oil more often. 2) your clutch will probably bet oily and can slip a
lot easier when under load or in off road type situations. If you replace
it my vote is for pulling the engine to do it.

Mark Johnson


Re: Stuck in Digest Mode

Baber
 

Unsubscribe

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From: Tea Herb Farm <therbfrm@...>
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Stuck in Digest Mode
Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 5:14 PM

From: Tea Herb Farm <therbfrm@...>

"David H. Hatch" wrote:

From: "David H. Hatch" <oslc@...>

Vernaldo,

You ARE stuck in Digest!

I went in and checked, you are listed as Digest, but when in the
change area, it says you are in Normal. I tried to re-send the
"change to normal" function, but it still has you as Digest.

Mark in Missouri.... where are you? :)

Dave in the cave
Vern:

You should now be back in "normal" mode, even though your posts do
not seem
to comply with this suggested mode. The One-List system was down last
Sunday
evening, so I believe you indeed did get sucked into the wormhole.

[List Note] This explains the bizarre messages we have all been
receiving from
Vern lately. My apologies for the software glitch. You should now start
receiving "normal" messages from Vern once again.

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Re: that old saw

Merl
 

That's one thing you might try to use when installing and adjusting the
windshield... when you install a soft top (Besttop anyway) they give you
measurements that indicate the distance from the top of the windshield
on each side to the rear of the body. If you can find the correct
measurement for a 2A it would give you at least some guide as to
correct windshield placement. Maybe latch the windshield down to the
dash without the hinges (have a couple of helpers to keep it standing
up), get your tilt right by using the soft top measurements, mark the
hinge locations. Like Reed says, you may need to adjust to provide for
compression of the cowl gasket.

Merl, Tejas

Reed Cary wrote:


From: Reed Cary <recary@...>

Richard,

Don't know what to tell you exactly, but bear in mind that the original brackets were adjustable
too, and that even a small adjustment - when carried to the top of the windshield frame- has great
effect on the angle the windshield rests at. Bear in mind, too, that some allowance for
compression of the windshield/cowl seal is in order. Any future installation of a top will be
effected by this angle.

Reed (CA)

--- Richard <dakota@...> wrote:
From: "Richard" <dakota@...>

OK guys,remember the 2A windshield I ooed over.Well I have since learned
there are a good many variations in the placement of the brackets on the
body(after reviewing many photos). I copied the position off my scapegoat
steel tub and transferred them to my glass body. Only problem is the
windshield leans way to far back. Now I have to move the brackets down to
straighten it up. This includes filling in the holes I just drilled(sniff).
Measure three times,cut once. I should have done some visual first but you
know what zeal can do. The only other option I considered was bending the
brackets some.The frame is made of tube steel,not extremely heavy.Since I'm
an electrician I could use a conduit bender carefully and tweak it a bit. My
only worry is weakening the metal and it just lays back again with the air
pressure at speed. Any advice? Thanks Richard


Bernie's Electrical lead

Frank Wood
 

In case Bernie forgot, I save everything.

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From: Bernie Daily[SMTP:dailyops@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 1998 9:56 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WTML] Rewiring



The cloth wiring is shot, and I don't want to start any
forest fires. Anyone know where to get these clamp-on bulb contacts? I
could use shrink-wrap on the old terminals and splice 'em to new wire
but some of them are corroded beyond rehab. Any ideas? [ Pic Attached ]
Get a catalog from Rhode Island Wiring Service 401-789-1955. You'll swear
some one sent you a Christmas Catalog!

Bernie Daily
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