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PSX Circuit Breaker Issue

 

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Jim,

It happens only when he shorts one loop out.? I think the cycling is just the DCS retries.

Blair


On 2021-08-07 13:21, Jim Betz wrote:

Robert,
? This sounds more like two cabs on the same address ... Jim

 

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I solved the problem finally! The PSX instruction manual states that when there is a short, D12 led should stay on and not flash. My D12 was flashing on and off, which the instruction manual indicated that the booster did not support “automatic reset.” As a result, I had to solder a jumper wire on the PSX boards between J7-1 and J7-2. Once I did that, problem was solved. Only downside is that when a short occurs, I have to manually reset the PSX by sending an accessory command to 997 in my throttle.

So apparently the new DCS210+ command/booster’s do not support auto reset, at least with the PSX’s.

I appreciate everyone weighing in and helping.

On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Blair <smithbr@...> wrote:

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Jim,

It happens only when he shorts one loop out.? I think the cycling is just the DCS retries.

Blair


On 2021-08-07 13:21, Jim Betz wrote:
Robert,
? This sounds more like two cabs on the same address ... Jim

 

PSX users with Digitrax equipment:

I wish I had remembered this sooner.? When I set up my PSX's, I had problems.? After checking everything I could, I contacted DCC Specialties.? It turns out when I was setting up the PSX's, my Digitrax equipment (DCS 210) was sending some accessory addresses which were messing up the PSX settings.? The solution, while the PSX programming jumper is in place, is to disconnect the PSX from the track bus whenever powering up the DCS 210.? Wait about 30 seconds after powering up the DCS 210 and wait for it to finish sending its start up messages.? Then connect the PSX to the track bus and complete your programming.? When you aren't programming the PSX, of course, you just leave the PSX attached to the track bus.? This solved my problem.

Note:? I am using lots of Frog Juicers.? While my layout is still under construction and I haven't run it much, I haven't had issues with them and the PSX's.? Whenever I wire, I frequently check to make sure the electronic circuit breakers are working the way they should.? They did.

Allan Gartner
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Thank you for this, Allan.? I currently have four PM42 units installed.? My next expansion would have added two, possibly four depending on how power hungry staging gets, but I have been considering moving to PSX breakers, as the old relay-based breakers don't 'play nice' with sound units.? Right now, the jury is out, until I get annoyed enough; I may upgrade the PSX units slowly, as all of my PM42 installs are constructed such that I can swap in two dual PSX breakers, stacked one over the other, without much problem.? Should I make the jump to all PSX, I'll be remembering this feature when setting things up.

Thanks again

Blair Smith

On 8/7/2021 4:07 PM, wirefordcc wrote:

PSX users with Digitrax equipment:

I wish I had remembered this sooner.? When I set up my PSX's, I had problems.? After checking everything I could, I contacted DCC Specialties.? It turns out when I was setting up the PSX's, my Digitrax equipment (DCS 210) was sending some accessory addresses which were messing up the PSX settings.? The solution, while the PSX programming jumper is in place, is to disconnect the PSX from the track bus whenever powering up the DCS 210.? Wait about 30 seconds after powering up the DCS 210 and wait for it to finish sending its start up messages.? Then connect the PSX to the track bus and complete your programming.? When you aren't programming the PSX, of course, you just leave the PSX attached to the track bus.? This solved my problem.

Note:? I am using lots of Frog Juicers.? While my layout is still under construction and I haven't run it much, I haven't had issues with them and the PSX's.? Whenever I wire, I frequently check to make sure the electronic circuit breakers are working the way they should.? They did.

Allan Gartner
Wiring for DCC

 

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It would be nice if Digitrax would update their PM42 to solid state with screw terminals. They could call it PM52 and charge $10 more for it. One of the reasons I went with the PSX’s is because they don’t require the rats nest of soldered wires that the PM42 requires. Maybe someone from Digitrax is part of this group….

On Aug 7, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Blair <smithbr@...> wrote:

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Thank you for this, Allan.? I currently have four PM42 units installed.? My next expansion would have added two, possibly four depending on how power hungry staging gets, but I have been considering moving to PSX breakers, as the old relay-based breakers don't 'play nice' with sound units.? Right now, the jury is out, until I get annoyed enough; I may upgrade the PSX units slowly, as all of my PM42 installs are constructed such that I can swap in two dual PSX breakers, stacked one over the other, without much problem.? Should I make the jump to all PSX, I'll be remembering this feature when setting things up.

Thanks again

Blair Smith

On 8/7/2021 4:07 PM, wirefordcc wrote:
PSX users with Digitrax equipment:

I wish I had remembered this sooner.? When I set up my PSX's, I had problems.? After checking everything I could, I contacted DCC Specialties.? It turns out when I was setting up the PSX's, my Digitrax equipment (DCS 210) was sending some accessory addresses which were messing up the PSX settings.? The solution, while the PSX programming jumper is in place, is to disconnect the PSX from the track bus whenever powering up the DCS 210.? Wait about 30 seconds after powering up the DCS 210 and wait for it to finish sending its start up messages.? Then connect the PSX to the track bus and complete your programming.? When you aren't programming the PSX, of course, you just leave the PSX attached to the track bus.? This solved my problem.

Note:? I am using lots of Frog Juicers.? While my layout is still under construction and I haven't run it much, I haven't had issues with them and the PSX's.? Whenever I wire, I frequently check to make sure the electronic circuit breakers are working the way they should.? They did.

Allan Gartner
Wiring for DCC

 

Sorry for the tardy reply, but I must report that I've seen this problem for quite some time on my RR, which includes about 18 PSX and 4 PSXAR devices.? Upon reporting it to Tony's and asking for a possible solution, I was told in an email response that this behavior is considered normal.? Not what I wanted or expected to hear, given the reason for using these devices!
John

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