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Typical response. ??
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I know how to delete emails.
Maybe you should call your IT person and learn how to reply to only the sender and not the whole group. ?
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Sheri
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Sherri,
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? Frankly, I do not know how to remove you from this group test, but I am so sorry that you have 5 whole emails in your inbox and it is distressing you.? If you don¡¯t know how to use the delete function, call your IT person.
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Cathy,
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If you and Rob want to continue with this discussion, please email each other and don¡¯t include me. You are filling up my inbox.
I don¡¯t know if anyone else minds a ton of back and forth emails, especially from someone who says they have an open mind and want to hear the ¡°other¡± side, yet still shows us a closed mind.
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¡°My request for the facts this group claims to have is wholly reasonable and I can¡¯t help but wonder why everyone is so put out about that.? So again, why is that? I ask questions to gain greater understanding but get no tangible answers.¡±
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I think you have been given tangible answers.? And with the time it has taken you to read the emails, write the emails, send your ¡°research¡± out, you could have watched 2000 Mules about 5 times.
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May 6, 2022 2000?Mules: The?Documentary?by Dan Newman May 6, 2022
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2000?Mules documents research from True the Vote, a conservative election intelligence organization that has compiled evidence of organized ballot trafficking in at least 6 states ¡ª Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Texas.
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So, again, I ask you to please remove me when you send out any further emails.
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Thank you!
Sheri
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Rob, I told you yesterday I do not have access to streaming anything irrespective of the time to watch or the fact that watching anything puts me to sleep in about 5 minutes.? I went back to the video last night to double check that is the only option. It is as far as I can tell.
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While there, I came across the True the Vote people and their connection with that video.? Hence I Googled them and sent you the link about their law-breaking, corrupt ways and their proliferation of the big lie and capitalizing off of same.? So one thing led to another and frankly, if what was stated is true about their business operation, they need to be put out of business and I may have mentioned, I have no problem with filing complaints against them with the AG.? ?That¡¯s called action.? I posted the link not as any kind of response but as an FYI ?for your consideration as I assumed you were unaware of this.? It¡¯s either that or you and all of your friends here already know but do not care about the truth.? That¡¯s a different matter altogether.
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I asked you for the facts you stated are in that video because I cannot see the video.? So, are you going to share? You saw the video; I presume you can tell me what you saw.
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The only actionable data presented to me so far is the link you sent re PA corruption. I acknowledged that and you notice action is being taken by the proper authorities.? That is exactly what I am looking for.? Got any more? ??I¡¯m looking for legitimate causes for action. ??Think I¡®ve said that before.
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I imagine you would like to be heard by people outside of the Republican Party and little clandestine groups like this one.? Then this is the kind of information you will have to provide to gain credibility outside of any group that parrots the same old crap ad nauseam and no, you are not getting special treatment; I have to do the same thing.
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My work with homeless people should not be construed as virtue signaling.? The point in that example is the breadth of the human spectrum I engage with: All levels of society, All races, All religions and the list goes on. I have a long list of gay men friends. Let¡¯s hope that is not a faux pas in any circles in present day Los Angeles, CA.
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I have yet to see any facts that cannot be refuted by good authority or any reasoning other than glimmers of your own.? All I have seen are other peoples¡¯ opinions and beliefs and people telling each other how to vote. I did encounter one fellow who was having a hysterical fit due to his interpretation of some proposed legislation. When I asked him where he saw that his response was, oh it¡¯s in there.? Well it was not in there; what was in there was his own misinterpretation of what was stated and that is why he could not tell me where it was.? THIS is the typical response I get when I ask someone for factual data.
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Here is the tax return for True the Vote for 2019.? They have not filed the 2020 return which would have been due 10/15/21 if on extension so they are way past due.? This tax return is another example of the kind of factual data I rely on.
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Yes, in fact, there is a loan for $113k+ to Catherine so that is absolutely true and absolutely AGAINST 501c3 regulation.? The return was filed 2/17/22? so you can say they are running behind, way behind.
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She also took more than 1/3 of the less that $450k in donations received in 2018.? (The tax return was filed late 1/11/21).? I want a job where I get 1/3 of the gross income!? Who is she anyway?? Just an enterprising woman with a pretty face who saw an opportunity to make money off of promoting a lie to others? It¡¯s amazing how stupid the masses are and how sad that is, especially when folks who may be a tad smarter take advantage of the less sophisticated.? Present day morality in the US is another issue entirely.
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So there you have it; I posted a link as an FYI then I pulled and read the tax return to check the statements made in the link and imagine that, the news article (regardless of who wrote it) and the tax return match.? I call that verification of data not open to anyone¡¯s interpretation.? See how simple that is?
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Enjoy your weekend.
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On Friday, June 10, 2022, 03:01:37 PM PDT, robfrankel <rob@...> wrote:
You said it yourself; you joined this group to talk with like-minded people.? Someone who only talks with like-minded people is hardly what I would consider to be open-minded.
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?They can be open-minded, but what's the fun of talking into an echo chamber.? For me, I care less about?what people think than?why they think it.. That's the problems I have with your responses: There's no meat there.? No rationale.? Simply posting links to a biased reference is, unfortunately, what most people on the internet think of as an intelligent response.? It's not.? It's just laziness.
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On another note, someone invited me to this group long ago; I didn¡¯t know the person and don¡¯t recall their name.? I suspect now it was because this group is so different and of one mind.? They sent me here to see what the other side of the world is doing and perhaps to shake things up a bit; to shake people out of their complacency.
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Which is fine, but you do yourself no favors by merely echoing the same propaganda we hear everywhere else.? You seem to know better than that.
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I engage in dialog with people from all walks of life and have entertained people who were homeless along with Doctors and Lawyers at the same event.? I¡¯m genuinely interested in other peoples¡¯ point of view and have a true desire to understand other people and their needs.? That does not imply I will go down any rabbit holes because of what someone else believes.
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No need to go down any rabbit holes.? However, reviewing the reasoning and data that forms others' opinions can be more rewarding and enlightening than virtue-signaling about homeless people.? It's easy to talk the talk.? Amongst these folks, you need to walk the walk if you want to be taken seriously.
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All I have asked for are facts that I can research and form my own opinion about (I do not need someone to tell me what I should think or do).? Back to the facts, ?none have been presented even by those who claim to have them.? I keep asking:? why is that?? Either you have the ¡°facts¡± or you do not just don¡¯t claim you do if you do not because sooner or later, someone like me is going to ask you to present them.? ?That¡¯s how it works.
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Well, to be fair, several have presented you with facts.? You've simply either refused to investigate them or dismissed them.? If you've noticed, whenever you've presented any sources or data, people here have checked them out and responded.?
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Kudos to Rob who presented one factual article about corruption in PA prior to 2020.? And yes, it¡¯s real and guess what, those people are being prosecuted, as they should be.? Works for me and I do not care what party they belong to.
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Thanks, but now you need to see?2000 Mules to see just how widespread the voter fraud really is -- and that's just one means of fraud.? It doesn't even begin to address the other events that involved far different means.
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My request for the facts this group claims to have is wholly reasonable and I can¡¯t help but wonder why everyone is so put out about that.? So again, why is that? I ask questions to gain greater understanding but get no tangible answers.
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Okay, watch?2000 Mules.? I've seen it, and I assure you, there is no sermonizing, smearing or campaigning.? It's just raw, factual data.? The film allows you to draw your own conclusions.? If you really are that open-minded, why wouldn't you view it and review the facts you claim you want?
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