Screen capture a completed selftest on ZS-407
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Not a big deal, but I'm interested how to grab a screen capture after a completed selftest (no errors) on an ultra+. When the self test is complete it states touch the screen to exit, touching the SD icon the selftest exits also the jog button seems to be disabled until the test is exited. I understand you can take a pic with a phone etc, just wondering if I've missed something. Dave
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TinySA Ultra+ ZS406 Self test Test 8: Passband failed ?
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#bug_report
#ultra
Hi guys, I got the TinySA Ultra+ ZS406 today from Eleshop. I updated the firmware to tinySA4_v1.4-198-g996a67b.bin (Picture 1). Before that, I had a Firmware from January 2025. I did the Self test two times, which failed on Test 8 Passband failed (Picture 2 and 3). Then I did the Level CAL" 100kHz to 5,42GHz" and then I tried the Self test again same problem with Test 8 Passband failed. Then I Reset Calibration and did and did the Level CAL "100kHz to 5,42GHz" again. And then the Self test again and now all Test passed two times again. ( picture 4 ) And the third time it failed again Test 8: Passband failed again, everything else passed ( picture 5 ) And the fourth and fifth time Self test all passed again. Then i did the Level CAL "100kHz to 5,42GHz" again and Self Test again Test 8: Passband failed again ( Picture 6 ) The next two Self test all Test passed again. The third Self test on Test 8 Passband failed again ( Picture 7 ) Should I return it to Eleshop and get a new one ? Are the Values of of Test 8 off by so much or just minimally off ?
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Spur at 4.275 GHz on ZS-407
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Hello Erik and everyone. I've recently purchased a TinySA Ultra+ from a local vendor and the unit has an issue. It is a ZS-407 with HW version V0.5.4 and S/N SU-407-25011571. It has a spur at ~4.275 GHz that is present regardless of the Spur Removal or Sample Rep settings: When I narrow the frequency bandwidth to 100kHz and turn off Spur Removal, I see that the "spur" is actually five pulses: The instrument passes the self test and calibration successfully. This issue was present in the factory firmware (I believe it was V1.4-195) and is still present after upgrading to the latest V1.4-197. The vendor has checked a few other units they have in stock and they show the same spur: The vendor assures me that the units are genuine and that they get them directly from ZeenKo. I also have an older TinySA Ultra (up to 5.3 GHz, ZS-405 maybe, it has no model number on it) and it has no such anomalies. So my questions are: - Is this device really genuine? - Is this a known issue? - Is it faulty hardware? - How can this be fixed (if it's possible)? Thank you! Best wishes, Andrew PS: This is the device in question:
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Selftest fail
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#bug_report
My TinySa Ultra+, just bought on Amazon from Pinsaitec, fails on selftest #8. I have implemented newest firmware, have done several calibration runs! No efford! What can I do, before returning the device to vendor? Best regards, Hartmut
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TinySA ultra - configure error
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My TinySA ultra device is giving me a "SI4468 Configure Fail" error and is not coming up. Any advice on how to recover ? Thanks Sridhar
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New FW release: Possible reduction of 4 GHz spurs visible on some ZS-407
New FW release Version V1.4198 All Ultra versions Changes: - Possible reduction of spurs around 4.278 GHz visible on some ZS-407 HW -- Designer of the tinySA For more info go to https://tinysa.org/wiki
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WinSpectrum III spectrum analyzer question
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Hi, I'm beginning to use WinSpectrum III and I don't know how to switch inputs from the application. I works ok if I switch them in the tiny. Best regards, Ignacio -- Este correo electr車nico ha sido analizado en busca de virus por el software antivirus de Avast. www.avast.com
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WinSpectrum III spectrum analyzer application designed for Windows users working with Tiny SA Ultra+
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WinSpectrum III is a spectrum analyzer application designed for Windows users working with Tiny SA Ultra+. Here are its key features: - **Lightweight**: The application is under 900 KB, ensuring quick installation and minimal system impact. - **No Installation Required**: Simply download and run the executable. - **Framework Requirement**: Requires .NET Framework to run. - **Tested & Stable**: Successfully tested on Windows 10 and Windows 11 (64-bit). - **User-Friendly**: Designed for ease of use. You can download it here: [Download Link) https://xrjunque.nom.es/(S(wdfgatyrxtvaewspynrrbwlp))/swdownload My friend Xavier and I collaborated on this project with the hope that it will be beneficial to the Tiny SA community. We've made every effort to ensure the application is effective and reliable. If you give it a try, we would appreciate your feedback and suggestions for improvements. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! Best regards, Juan (M0WWA) & Xavier
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Output impedance of RF sinewave generator (Tiny Ultra)
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Today, as I was going to measure the frequency (sensitivity) plot of a 500 MHz Keysight oscilloscope, I found that the measured amplitude was going to increase by approx. 6 dB from approx. 150 to 300 MHz, and then drops down somewhat. Despite a direct connection using SMA-BNC adapter and direct coupling without coax cable and a 50 ohms scope input. At any case: the behaviour got (expectedly) a bit worse when I selected a high impedance input while using a BNC T-connector for termination with a BNC 50 ohms termination resistor. After doing some experiments, I discovered this: with the latter configuration I also switched the internal 50 ohms to active state (resulting termination: 25 ohms). It was a nice surprise that the amplitude shown on the screen was really constant over the whole range that was used (up to 500 MHz), while the amplitude under 150 MHz was fairly the same as in the case of a single 50 ohms termination. The question: what about the output impedance of the generator? Rob
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What accessories do I need for a TinySA Ultra?
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I'm new here and new to my TinySA Ultra and NanoVNA. Trying to keep it affordable, I'm just trying to figure out what accessories I should buy first and which ones I should still buy but can wait until later. What attenuators should I get first? I have an assortment of connectors/adapters and I have these two attenuators, https://a.co/d/bFnpBAT, https://a.co/d/b4JeLwu . And a 15w 0-500Mhz Dummy Load https://a.co/d/8fGnqdi Is there anything I should buy to protect the SMA connectors with adapters on the TInySA like some people have mentioned? And do I need anything for the antenna? Someone mentioned a DC blocker like this, https://a.co/d/aHC3juo Is there an upgraded antenna worth buying? I'd like to have a second one on hand as backup anyway. I'm wanting to test out some Ham radio handhelds and my mobile Anytone AT-778UV Ham Radio. They are UHF/VHF. And then I'd also like to test out some CB radios. I've been reading mixed reviews on everything so I figured I'd ask here before I started ordering things I don't need or end up ordering the wrong things. Thanks for the help.
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TinySA Ultra Calibration Fail.
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Dear all, I've been playing with my TinySA, and I think I've passed the measure power limit during some test and now my device doesn't measure correctly. Probably I exceeded the +6 dBm. I've uploaded new FW and try to pass the self test, and I've obtained errors on tests: 3,4,7, 10,11 and 14. I attached a picture, Try to passed level calibration is not possible. I've appreciated that if I inject a signal from a signal generator of value is attenuated but measurable, however if I turn on the LNA I can't see anything, so my first thoughts is going about the LNA is broken. I've also tested the attenuator and it works well. So I join this group with the hope that you could help me to solve the issue. I also attach a picture of the back with the S/N. Thanks in advance for the support and I'll be waiting for your news. Greetings, Jorge
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tinysa ultra attentual and signal level fail
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Hi I bought tinysa ultra from facebook. It fails attentuator and signal level. Can it be fixed? can it be used as a signal generator?
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Interval Triggering working great (apology to Erik)
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Hi Erik and gang, I owe Erik an apology as not to long ago I said the interval triggering feature that Erik implemented for me a few years ago on the TinySA was not working properly on my TinySA Ultra. In a recent post that Erik responded to someone on a different topic he mentioned setting the RBW to 850 KHz when using Zero Span mode and that made me revisit the interval triggering feature as I had ignored the RBW setting when using interval triggering. Today I tested the interval triggering feature with the display sweep time set to 20 msec, trigger interval set at 32.6msec which is a multiple of 1/60 (60 being the power line frequency in the US), set the RBW to 850 KHz, and the Zero Span frequency set to 146 MHz which is a frequency I know I can hear RFI that's generated by an LED light dimmer in my family room that I use for testing the interval trigger feature. I then turned on the LED lights and I can easily see the light dimmer going into conduction at a frequency of 120 Hz which would be each half cycle of the 60 hertz sinewave and it's a very stable display (apparently in sync with the 60 Hertz line frequency which is what I was hoping for). I've attached a screen shot showing the display generated by my LED light dimmer driving LED can lights (antenna used was a homebrew Moxon beam designed for 146 MHz). I originally wanted this interval trigger feature to help track down RFI like power line noise that's in sync with the electrical grid frequency, and will now continue my work on this subject now that I better appreciate the setting of RBW when in zero span mode. Having the ability to trigger in sync with the electrical grid is beneficial when there are other signals present which are not necessarily in sync while you are attempting to see signals in sync with the grid. Bottom line is that the interval trigger feature appears to working great and having the RBW set to 850 KHz really helps. Big Thanks to Erik, Don (wd8dsb)
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WinSpectrum III v3.0.1.1 每 Update & Fixes
Some users reported that nothing was displayed on the graph when using tinySA (basic). The issue was caused by WinSpectrum's default scan setting of 450 points, which the tinySA (basic) does not support (it has a 290-point limit). Fixed in version 3.0.1.1: WinSpectrum III now detects tinySA (basic) failure when the number of points exceeds 290, adjusts the scan to 290 points, and correctly displays the graph〞no user intervention required. Additionally, this update includes several improvements and fixes: ? Added LNA on/off command. ? Start/Stop Frequencies are now displayed at the bottom of the graph. ? Fixed logfile reading issue. ? Various marker-related fixes and improvements. ? Added Delta calculation for markers. Tested successfully on tinySA (basic) version 1.4-40, tinySA Ultra (non plus) version 1.4-156 and tinySA Ultra+ versions 1.4-196 and 1.4.197. About the marker's 'Tolerance' field Some users may wonder why WinSpectrum III includes a Tolerance (%) setting for peak markers when this parameter is not explicitly found in most VNAs, Spectrum Analyzers, or tinySA devices. This feature is not mandatory and does not modify the raw measurement data. Instead, it is an optional tool that helps locate peaks within a user-defined range rather than just a single frequency point. For example, if a peak frequency is set to 10 MHz with a 5% tolerance, WinSpectrum will search for the highest peak within the 9.5 MHz to 10.5 MHz range, rather than just at 10 MHz. This can be useful in cases where signals fluctuate slightly due to environmental factors or device tolerances. The goal of this feature is to make peak identification more flexible and user-friendly, especially when dealing with noisy signals or spectral variations. Of course, if users prefer a fixed peak frequency search, they can simply ignore this setting. https://xrjunque.nom.es/swdownload#winspectrum 73
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2025 SVHFS Conference Update
Below is an update on the schedule of speakers and presentations for the Southeastern VHF Society Conference. The conference will be held at the Quality Inn at Exit #4 in Clarksville, TN April 4-5, 2025. This is an opportunity to meet other VHF+ enthusiasts, learn, exchange ideas, and have FUN. The $69 registration fee for the conference is required, and it includes a 1 year membership in the SVHFS. Details are here: https://svhfs.org/wp/2025-conference/. Advance registration is highly recommended as the hotel requires a head count in order to prepare the food for the event. There will be door prizes given away at the banquet on Saturday evening. Feel free to contact me via email if you have any questions: RobinK4IDC@.... Preliminary 2025 SVHFS Conference Schedule Friday 8:00 AM Registration 9:00 Charles Osborne -K4CSO 每 RF Zero - 30 min 9:30 Robin Midgett 每 K4IDC 每 RF Zero 2 Meter Beacon- 30 min 10:00 Bob Lear 每 W4ZST Power Dividers and Cable Loops 每 30 min 10:30 15 Minute Break 10:45 Mike Stipick 每 KC4RI 每 5.7 GHz SDR Transceiver - 45 min 11:30 Bill Pence 每 Grid Square Locator 每 30 min 12:00 PM Lunch - Steve and Sandra Kostro 每 Designing a Multi Band Transverter 1:15 2:00 Paul Wielozenski - K4PEW - VHF Nets 每 30 min 2:30 Ben Lowe 每 Rover Radiators 每 30 min 3:00 George Presley 每 10 GHz Beacon 每 30 min 4:00 Charles Osborne / Kent O* Dell 每 10GHz Antenna test Range - 30 min 5:00 Dinner 每On your own 7:00 Swap Fest and Hospitality Suite Saturday 9:00 AM Brian McCarthy 每 Lunar Rover Truck, 2.3GHz Amp 每 1 hour 10:00 Peter Van Horne 每 KA6U - Moon Bounce Rover 每 45 min 10:45 15 Minute Break 11:00 Chris Arthur - NV4B 每 45 min 12:00 PM Lunch - On your own 1:30 Larry Cagle - K4WLO 每 Meteor Scatter with MSK144 - 45 min 2:15 SVHFS Business Meeting 3:00 每 5:00 Rover Round Up and 10GHz Antenna Range 6:00 Social Hour- Hotel Bar 7:00 Dinner Banquet followed by the Door Prize Extravaganza! Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC
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Settings for measure Lora signals
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Hello there, I am having some strange behaviors between rx and tx in my personal project and have thought of using tinysa to better monitor what is going on. The use will be for short/medium range so there is no need to measure signals below -90db at most. My settings are BW500khz, SF5 and 868.0 Mhz, I have set tinySA center frequency 868, span 500Khz and I see perfectly the signals but, depending on the RWB I use, I get a RSSI or another, I would like to know what would be the appropriate settings or any advice to compare the RSSI between tinySA and LoRA modules. Thanks!
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TinySA Ultra exists DFU when connected to PC
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All was fine, until I flashed custom firmware. Didn't like it, tried to go back to stock. Basically, on Windows 10, when I connect USB to PC and try to enter DFU mod, it throws me right back out of the DFU mode. If I disconnect USB cable, TinySA Ultra enters DFU mode, screen stays black. Also, if I connect to Linux, it enters DFU mode (but dfu-util does not work). How to approach this situation? Let's focus on windows, what can I do so that TinySA Ultra stays in DFU when I connect USB cable? For in case I'll include the output from Linux. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:b00b Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Realtek Bluetooth 4.2 Adapter Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0408:5222 Quanta Computer, Inc. HP Webcam Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0483:df11 STMicroelectronics STM Device in DFU Mode Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub dfu-util 0.11-dev Copyright 2005-2009 Weston Schmidt, Harald Welte and OpenMoko Inc. Copyright 2010-2021 Tormod Volden and Stefan Schmidt This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Please report bugs to http://sourceforge.net/p/dfu-util/tickets/ dfu-util: Warning: Invalid DFU suffix signature dfu-util: A valid DFU suffix will be required in a future dfu-util release Opening DFU capable USB device... Device ID 0483:df11 Device DFU version 011a Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Interface #0 ... Determining device status... DFU state(10) = dfuERROR, status(10) = Device's firmware is corrupt. It cannot return to run-time (non-DFU) operations Clearing status Determining device status... DFU state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present DFU mode device DFU version 011a Device returned transfer size 2048 DfuSe interface name: "Internal Flash " Downloading element to address = 0x08000000, size = 181632 Erase [ ] 0% 0 bytesdfu-util: ERASE_PAGE not correctly executed
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TiySA ULTRA APP for sweeping during hours/days with CSV exports
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#features
#software
#tinysa
#ultra
#WindowsAPP
Hi ToniZG, please share your software - any download links ? greetings
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UHF Bessel Null
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First of all I must explain that I am pretty much a newbie when it comes to spectrum analyzers and I apologize if the answer to my question should be obvious. I have a TinySA and I've been working on an amateur DMR repeater that is using a Repeater Builder STM32-DVM controller. It became necessary for me to null out the FM carrier and the Bessel null procedure was recommended. However, I wasn't able to properly discern any carrier level changes when adjusting the Tx on the controller. To my understanding, the High channel input does not have enough resolution but the Low channel input does. All the examples of using a TinySA that I can find seem to be performed on a VHF or lower frequency. My question is this, would a TinySA Ultra+ model work in this situation? If so, any help with setup recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Regards and thanks in advance, Chris
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Noise figure measurment not built into standard (2.8") TinySA?
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I have both the standard and Ultra versions of the TinySA. Both incredibly useful tools. I recently became aware that the Ultra has built in ability for noise figure measurements on LNAs. Purely out of curiosity I am wondering why this measurement is not possible with the standard TinySA...i.e. is there something intrinsic in the design that makes it impossible? I am also wondering if there are any "tricks" to making a NF measurement with a standard TinySA....i.e. would I have to have a calibrated noise source etc?
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