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How to upgrade firmware 3
I read the pdf, but when I power up the Ultra and look under config, I can't find the DFU. I must have missed something here. also the stm32 software is version 17, is this a problem? c.
Started by Chuck Maslin @ · Most recent @
TinySA ULTRA: measurement results for telecom mobile networks with 5G standard (for FREQ ranges 3480 MHz - 3800 MHZ)? 6 #specifications #ultra
Hi, Does anyone have TinySA ULTRA measurement results/experience for telecom mobile networks with 5G standard (for FREQ ranges of 3480 MHz - 3800 MHZ)? e.g. how big freq shift is then visible in TinySA Ultra results? I have some measurement results, but I am wondering if all of them are from 5G mobile operators available in my country (Croatia) as seen in the attached picture (in the table are mobile network 5G frequency ranges from our official government web site). From TinySA wiki I understand that "computer 5G WIFI", "mobile newtork LTE,5G" are ones that are considered "wide band signals (above 600kHz wide) " ones that could/will have "freq shift in TinySA results" according to wiki, but my results have signals with "shift"/width that are not as expected? or there is someone in this group who has experience with that 5G/ how they see such signals on TinySA in their country? All other mobile network standards for my country are "in expected ranges"/matching with TinySA results. Results are similar (shows some dBm's in same ranges) with all antennas I have. From TinySA wiki: https://tinysa.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=TinySA4.Limitations " In ultra mode the measurement of wide band signals (above 600kHz wide) can fail. These wide signal may appear at wrong frequencies. " Regards, Toni
Started by ToniZG @ · Most recent @
Recording the Waterfall 7
I have a question regarding the Waterfall feature, I believe at the moment you can just monitor (i.e. watch live), is there a plan in the future to be able to record the waterfall and play it back over time? The way I use the TinySA it would enable me to identify a specific signal (i.e. store and forward device) that only transmits for a short period of time and at an irregular time? I currently place the TinySA in the target location, leave it in place for 2 or 3 days recording the signals which is really good but ideally I would like to be able to see the transmissions over time. Many thanks for your time in this matter and I must admit a really good piece of equipment!! Lee Johns
Started by Lee Johns @ · Most recent @
How will I know if I’ve overloaded my TinySA Ultra? 12
I work in film/TV sound production and was tooling around with my Tiny SA yesterday. I realized that I was getting pretty close to 0dBm at some point on a few UHF carriers. We use a 250mW transmitter at about 945MHz as part of our kit and it was on while I was operating the TinySA within a few feet. Most of the time I’ve had the -20 or -10 pad screwed on. I don’t think I’ve ever submitted the unit to prolonged overload signals heavier than what’s described above but I suppose it’s possible. How will I know if I’ve done lasting damage? What is the failure mode of these components? Will it be like a burnt lightbulb and be obviously broken or will it just become inaccurate? Do you have to worry about the entire spectrum bandwidth of the TinySA for possible overloads or only the frequency window you’re currently looking at? Any concern when the power is off? Also, what is the point of the built in attenuation if it cannot protect the input? In what scenario would you use it? It seems that using an external attenuator buries a lot of signals in the noise floor. Is the LNA the solution here for pulling it back up? The only experience I have with LNAs is at the antenna end of a long coaxial run to makeup for the loss of the cable. I don’t really understand why you would use it in an SA. Sorry for posing multiple topics. And thanks in advance for any info you folks might offer. Derek
Started by Derek H @ · Most recent @
Locked Made Impossible to repair on purpose? 19
So I guess this was made impossible to repair on purpose since there is no schematic or anything available for it?
Started by steve c @ · Most recent @
Fails Test 3.
We have a unit that also fails test 3 and Erik Kaashoek says to follow the input signal and see if it arrives at the mixer. I guess there are no schematics for this unit but can I at least find a block diagram somewhere so I'll know how to follow the signal? Thanks.
Started by steve c @
Firmware links for tinysa and ultra are down. 4
Links provided at: tinySA | Main / Updating the firmware I have been trying all day. I also tried from different locations and different Internet providers. I'm guessing I should just be patient and wait for these to come back up? Just checking in case they have been moved. I am in the USA. Thanks!
Started by Steve G @ · Most recent @
Firmware update server down 2
Due to some technical mishap the server hosting the firmware is down. Hope to solve this soon. -- Designer of the tinySA For more info go to https://tinysa.org/wiki
Started by Erik Kaashoek @ · Most recent @
Website Down for athome.kaashoek.com - Can't Access TinySA Software for Windows #TinySA-App #WindowsAPP #install #software
Hi everyone, I'm unable to access the site http://athome.kaashoek.com/tinySA/Windows/ and all other pages on this domain. It seems like a global issue, as my availability test shows the same problem worldwide. You can check the results here: Website Availability Test. Does anyone know where I can find the latest version of the TinySA software for Windows? Or could someone possibly reach out to the site owner to check the issue? Thanks in advance!
Started by z.vlad.ru@... @
Tiny SA Ultra - Has my unit frozen for the last time? 7
Hi I hope someone can help. Previously, my Tiny SA Ultra has locked itself up a couple of times during simple interaction with the menu. Whenever this happens, if I start it up, it freezes on a display at 349.2MHz (image attached). The first time this happened, the power disconnection method from inside the unit resolved the problem. On the second time this didn't work but starting it up without the SD card inserted did. On this third occasion, neither method has worked. Even leaving the battery disconnected for > 10 mins. Just before the 3rd occasion, I had performed a firmware update to v1.4-177. The update worked fine using the TinySA-App and it passed a self-test. It wouldn’t loaded my previous settings so I was manually re-entering my presets. During this it locked up for the third time. I can still put it into DFU mode and apply different firmware via the app but the same frozen screen happens everytime I start it up. I noticed another owner describe a similar problem online where if they hold the jog wheel to the left or right as it starts up, you can still briefly change the frequency from 349.2MHz. However, that’s it. It is a legitimate TinySA Ultra purchased in Feb 2024 from a supplier listed by tinesa.org. Ultra mode had been enabled. Calibration checked. - s/n: SU-24014581 - h/w version: V0.4.5.1.1 Any help would be appreciated. Regards Tristan
Started by t_hattersley@... @ · Most recent @
Antenuator question 16
TinySA Ultra says max 4mw signal input. If I buy a 50watt 50db antenuator & use it for 5 to 50 watts in. Will the tinySA still read the lower wattage input thu that? Or will the antenuator just kill all the signal & be over kill? I ask because I want to be able to measure handhelds & mobile radios that do 5 to 50 watts.
Started by N4FOX @ · Most recent @
Zero span modus - Possibility of measuring the pulse frequency and hear the sound of a demodulated RF signal 2
Hello, I am thinking of buying tinySA Ultra Spektrumanalysator, especially because it has a zero span modus function. I studied decriptions, videos and posts in this forum, but could not find an definite answer to my questions to that: Is it possible in zero span modus to measure (or calculate / visible count) the pulse frequency of a RF signal and hear the sound of a demodulated RF signal ? Example1: WLAN/WIFI at 2.400 MHz. Is ist possible > to measure/see/calculate the pulse signal of 10 Hz > and to hear the typical WIFi signal sound ? Example2: DAB-T (digital radio) at e.g. 208 MHz (in Austria). Is ist possible > to measure/see/calculate the pulse signal of 10,42 Hz > and to hear the typical DAB-T signal sound ? Note: I do not want to hear radio broadcasting but listen to the pulse signal. It would be very fine, if you could help me further - thank you. Greetings, Ron
Started by ron1 @ · Most recent @
Audio in TinySA Ultra 8 #ultra #software #features
Hi, I have a TinySA Ultra (SW version : tinySA4_v1.4-156-g4eb315d HW version: V0.4.5.1.1 (185) and I want to use its audio signal demodulation capabilities (FM/AM) I have plugged the headphones into the audio jack and I don't hear any sound. Should I take any additional action? (Settings, Firmware, etc.) Thank you Juanpao
Started by joanpao@... @ · Most recent @
TinySA or ULTRA Antennas 11
Hi Group, I agree with the suggestion to get away from the 'ham' topics, however, RF antennas from all aspects of transmitting or receiving will play a part in both disciplines. That said, shouldn't we discuss what we find with various antenna designs, both pro and con? The only suggestion would be to only talk about what works and what may not and in that light stay away from+0J-,* math. We can leave the math for our handy dandy VNA. Example: What does the signal of a 1/32 wave look like on our TinySA or Ultra at 2.4GHz? Mike C. Sand Mtn GA
Started by Mike C. @ · Most recent @
Is the TinySA Ultra capable of measuring short radar pulses? 9
I recently purchased a TinySA Ultra in hopes of being able to measure the strength of a radar signal at various locations of my property. After weeks of comparing the (borrowed) Agilent FieldFox N9915A results to TinySA, I am coming to the realization that the TInySA is not capable. The radar signal is composed of 2.8752 GHz, +5dBm, 1us duration pulses every 1ms. The radar spins so I get a burst of about 20 of these pulses every 4.8 seconds. This is the best I can do with TinySA. Unchecking the Spur Removal seemed to help but changing NSpeedUp, WSpeedUp and #points did not have any effect. Why are the power levels of the pulses so different using the TinySA while the FieldFox is very consistent (and much higher)? Below is for comparison. Thanks in advance. ~~Mike Flohr Here is Fieldfox capture over 6 seconds: And over 50ms And over 50us
Started by Mike Flohr @ · Most recent @
Just to let you all know how happy I'm with my TinySA Ultra. 5
Hello all, Yesterday i got a offer for RIGOL DSA815-TG (used 8 years old) for euro 675,00 (retail aprx euro 1300) So basically a good deal and before I got my TinySA Ultra (and NanoVNA/LiteVNA) it was on the top of my "I want that in my shack" list. The screen is bigger 8" vs 4", it has physical buttons for operating vs. touchscreen, build in tracking generator which the TinySAUltra doesn't etc, But after comparing it with the specs for PhaseNoise and DNAL TinySAUlta Phase noise at 30MHz and 10kHz offset -92dBc/Hz Phase noise at 30MHz and 100kHz offset -108dBc/Hz DNAL -153dBm/Hz (LNA Off) / -169dBm/Hz (LNA On) (DANL degrading in ultra mode 10dB above 2.5GHz, 25dB above 5.3GHz) RIGOL DSA815 Phase noise 10kHz offset -80 dBc/Hz (frequency chart available in spec sheet) Phase noise 100kHz offset -100 dBc/Hz DANL -130 dBm (PA Off) / -150 dBm/Hz (PA On) 100KHz up to 1MHz. DANL -135 dBm (PA Off) / -155 dBm/Hz (PA On) 1MHz up to 1.5GHz I think I let it pass. Imho the feature wise the TinySAUltra covers them all and even adds new features like the waterfall etc. missing on the DSA815-TG. And in combination with my LiteVNA the tracking generator is covert to. So Erik, many thanks for designing these great tools and make them available to us for a reasonable price. -- 73 Lex PH2LB https://www.ph2lb.nl/
Started by Lex PH2LB @ · Most recent @
Locked Measure frequencies down to 500khz with tinysa? 37
Hello, is possible at all to measure frequencies down to 500khz at all with an tinysa? If I have to understood it correctly it is possible with a larger antenna?
Started by Roberth @ · Most recent @
tinySA : most accurate power level 5
I'm building a 1kW+ HF power amplifier. I've a 2kW homebrew dummy-load with a 60dB PAD (measured with a nanoVNA it's around 60db flat to 100MHz). With an IC7300 at 100% FM, 7.2MHz, the tinySA reads -10.5dBm (As expected: 50dBm less 60db = -10dBm) (Checking the linearity from from ICOM at 10% to 100% indicates all is working well). So far, so good. Inserting the AMP & LPF: there's a gain of around 12dB (after a 15dB protective PAD at the input of the AMP). Aligned with the device specification. Input: 42.5dBm output 52.5dBm (i.e. -7.5dBm as measured by the tinySA) When the input is increased to 50dBm, one would expect around 62dBm (1600W) at the output : assuming nothing has entered compression. However, the tinySA reads -2.5dBm which equates to 57.5dBm at the dummy-load (560W). The AMP is drawing 1,426W DC, the device's datasheet suggests an efficiency of around 80%. So, one might expect the tinySA to read around 0dBm, indicating 60dBm at the dummy-load. Checking with a thermal camera, nothing in the AMP (transformer cores) or the LPF cores appear to be getting overly hot (not 850W hot!). My question is: Is it likely that the tinySA has become non-linear once above around -10dBm at its input? Is there a sweet spot where the tinySA is most accurate? I haven't manually configured the tinySA's input attenuator: i.e. it's in Auto mode. Been using NanoVNA-APP with the tinySA. Yep, my next test is to insert a 10dB PAD between the tinySA & dummy-load (the AMP is currently off line for a completely different reason). Thanks in advance.
Started by @G1RVDG0Z @ · Most recent @
Can't update firmware 6
Just purchased a tinySA ultra from the Zeenko store, so it's genuine, and I can't upgrade the firmware. 1. Running on Windows 11 2. Have installed STM32 drivers 3. When I go into DFU mode I see a "STM32 BOOTLOADER" in Device Manager. 4. When I run tinySA-App.exe and attempt to upload firmware, I get the following message. Any idea how to get past this?
Started by Marc VK3OHM @ · Most recent @
pc control trace data? 3
Is there a way to collect the data from multiple displayed traces? I can collect the first trace with "data 2". I don't see how to collect the others.
Started by Bryan Krone @ · Most recent @
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