|
ok. what to do- in the search box of the PC type cmd <enter> then when it gives the suggestion rt click then run as administrator.?
you will get a black dos screen.?
then? cd ?(change directory) to the place all those files are, then double click on the bat file.?
this is a DOS application.?
Larry?
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:09 PM Terry Perdue < K8tp@...> wrote:
Is this what I'm looking for?
On 8/26/2021 8:33 AM, EB4APL wrote:
Hi Terry, a very basic question: Did you updated the firmware
ever before? If not, probably you don't have the correct driver
for the DFU mode, this is not the driver used to communicate
with the PC apps. The DFU mode driver comes with the dfusedemo
app and without it the firmware can not be uploaded.
Ignacio EB4APL
El 26/08/2021 a las 16:51, Larry
Acklin escribió:
THis is what I did- Larry
Get the tinySA_version_number.bin file from
and also download from there the files with names starting
with DFU
(so the latest is tinySA_v1.3-317-g9d82970.bin)
THe other "DFU"??files?are important- the batch file
and etc.
Rename the downloaded file to tinySA.bin
Connect the tinySA with USB, switch the tinySA on and
enter DFU mode.
Download dfu-util from
and check you can execute it.
For windows, open a command window and go to the folder
with the downloaded files and run DFU_LOAD_BIN.bat. The
tinySA should now be updating with the tinySA.bin file
using dfu-util-static.exe
I did the?above on a W10 PC.
On Linux and Mac make sure dfu-util can run from the
command prompt. Go to the folder where you downloaded and
renamed tinySA.bin and execute
dfu-util -a 0 -s 0x08000000:leave -D tinySA.bin
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at
10:46 AM Terry Perdue < K8tp@...> wrote:
Version is 1.3-111-gcb2fe54. The tinySA app works
great, except for the upgrading function. After selecting
the file, the app puts the tinySA into DFU mode
automatically, but as you can see from the screenshot I
posted, the app seems to lose communication with it. Same
result if I put the unit in DFU mode manually before
selecting the file. And the dfusedemo app can't even
detect the device when it's in DFU mode, regardless of
whether I enter the mode before or after running the app.
On 8/25/2021 10:58 PM, Ted Chesley wrote:
Hey Terry, what FW version do you
have loaded in the TinySA (menu=CONFIG/ VERSION)? And,
when connecting to the TinySA app (before you try to
update) does everything work Ok, you get a sweep and can
control the unit from the app?
It appears the program is not sensing the unit is
in DFU mode. Does the TinySA appear to go into that
mode when selected in menu= CONFIG/DFU/ENTER DFU,
before trying to upgrade?
Perhaps one of our group more familiar with this
might have some suggestions.?
On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:21 PM,
Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
? Thanks, that got me closer. I found
that when thought I copied the firmware file, I
actually copied the link to the file,
hence the .URL. Using the .dfu file you supplied I
followed your step-by-step, and it still fails,
with this display:
<foackeggcpkdcopi.png>
On 8/25/2021 7:59 PM, Ted Chesley wrote:
Hi Terry, see attached,
re: TinySA update with TinySA app. maybe it will
help. Not a complicated process. The application
does it all. if you follow the steps attached.
You need to have the correct .dfu file
downloaded from the site. I have attached it as
well (latest ver 1.3.317). Just copy to a file
on the computer that you can browse to when the
program requests it. Remember, as soon as you
click on the file it will update and you can
track the progress (which is just a few seconds)
in the test block.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday August 25 2021 7:05:52PM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
? I don’t see anything in the
upgrade document about renaming any file.
Can you elaborate?
On Aug 25, 2021, at 5:08 PM,
Larry Acklin <acklin@...>
wrote:
?
I had the same issues. I used
dfu-util, a bit of a PITA but
figured it out. You need to follow
the how to and also rename the
file to what the batch file
expects. It’s a DOS based process
but mine is running latest and
works- passes self test and Cal.?
And Windows 10 needed to
recognize the tinySA as a usb
device- running zadig helped get
it recognized. ?
Good Luck?
Larry?
KB3CUF?
On
Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 7:25 PM
<K8tp@...>
wrote:
I've
downloaded dfusedemo, version
3.0.6. With it running, I
connect the TinySA and put it in
DFU mode, but the application
doesn't find it. If it's any
help, when I enter DFU mode I
get the 'USB disconnect' sound.
I've viewed a couple of YouTube
videos, and can't figure out
what I could be doing wrong.
Also, if I click CHOOSE and
select the new .DFU file, the
application reports that the
file doesn't have the correct
format. Seems I have two
different issues.
|
Good Morning Terry, Take a look at this to see if the unit is setting up correct drivers as noted by Ignacio:
1. Go into Device Manager and look at the ports section. Connect the TinySA and turn ON. A new ST Micro port should show up as COM PORT #.
2. Place the TinySA in DFU mode. The Ports section COM port should clear.?
3. Go to Universal Serial Bus Controllers and look for an entry "STM Device in DFU mode". If it is there and doesn't have the yellow triangle by it, the DFU driver has loaded correctly. If it is not there,? or has the yellow triangle, the driver is incorrect on not loaded.? I had this issue once a while back. I believe I uninstalled, and reinstalled the driver and everything was back to normal.? ----------------------------------------- From: "Terry Perdue" To: [email protected]Cc: Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 9:09:54AM Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
Is this what I'm looking for? 
On 8/26/2021 8:33 AM, EB4APL
wrote:
Hi Terry, a very basic question: Did you updated the firmware
ever before? If not, probably you don't have the correct driver for
the DFU mode, this is not the driver used to communicate with the
PC apps. The DFU mode driver comes with the dfusedemo app and
without it the firmware can not be uploaded.
Ignacio EB4APL
El 26/08/2021 a las 16:51, Larry
Acklin escribió:
THis is what I did- Larry
Get the tinySA_version_number.bin file from and also
download from there the files with names starting with DFU
(so the latest is tinySA_v1.3-317-g9d82970.bin)
THe other "DFU"??files?are important- the batch
file and etc.
Rename the downloaded file to tinySA.bin
Connect the tinySA with USB, switch the tinySA on and enter DFU
mode.
Download dfu-util from and
check you can execute it.
For windows, open a command window and go to the folder with the
downloaded files and run DFU_LOAD_BIN.bat. The tinySA should now be
updating with the tinySA.bin file using dfu-util-static.exe
I did the?above on a W10 PC.
On Linux and Mac make sure dfu-util can run from the command
prompt. Go to the folder where you downloaded and renamed
tinySA.bin and execute
dfu-util -a 0 -s 0x08000000:leave -D tinySA.bin
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 10:46 AM
Terry Perdue <K8tp@...> wrote:
Version is 1.3-111-gcb2fe54. The tinySA app works great,
except for the upgrading function. After selecting the file, the
app puts the tinySA into DFU mode automatically, but as you can see
from the screenshot I posted, the app seems to lose communication
with it. Same result if I put the unit in DFU mode manually before
selecting the file. And the dfusedemo app can't even detect the
device when it's in DFU mode, regardless of whether I enter the
mode before or after running the app. On 8/25/2021 10:58 PM, Ted Chesley wrote:
Hey Terry, what FW version do you have
loaded in the TinySA (menu=CONFIG/ VERSION)? And, when connecting
to the TinySA app (before you try to update) does everything work
Ok, you get a sweep and can control the unit from the app?
It appears the program is not sensing the unit is in DFU mode.
Does the TinySA appear to go into that mode when selected in menu=
CONFIG/DFU/ENTER DFU, before trying to upgrade?
Perhaps one of our group more familiar with this might have
some suggestions.? On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Terry Perdue
<K8tp@...> wrote:
? Thanks, that got me closer. I found that when
thought I copied the firmware file, I actually copied the
link to the file, hence the .URL. Using the .dfu file you
supplied I followed your step-by-step, and it still fails, with
this display: <foackeggcpkdcopi.png>
On 8/25/2021 7:59 PM, Ted Chesley wrote:
Hi Terry, see attached, re: TinySA update
with TinySA app. maybe it will help. Not a complicated process. The
application does it all. if you follow the steps attached. You need
to have the correct .dfu file downloaded from the site. I have
attached it as well (latest ver 1.3.317). Just copy to a file on
the computer that you can browse to when the program requests it.
Remember, as soon as you click on the file it will update and you
can track the progress (which is just a few seconds) in the test
block.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday August 25 2021 7:05:52PM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware ? I don’t see anything in the upgrade document about
renaming any file. Can you elaborate?
On Aug 25, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Larry Acklin <acklin@...> wrote:
?
I had the same issues. I used dfu-util, a bit of a PITA but
figured it out. You need to follow the how to and also rename the
file to what the batch file expects. It’s a DOS based process but
mine is running latest and works- passes self test and
Cal.?
And Windows 10 needed to recognize the tinySA as a usb device-
running zadig helped get it recognized. ?
Good Luck?
Larry?
KB3CUF?
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 7:25 PM
<K8tp@...>
wrote:
I've downloaded dfusedemo, version 3.0.6. With it running, I
connect the TinySA and put it in DFU mode, but the application
doesn't find it. If it's any help, when I enter DFU mode I get the
'USB disconnect' sound.
I've viewed a couple of YouTube videos, and can't figure out what I
could be doing wrong. Also, if I click CHOOSE and select the new
.DFU file, the application reports that the file doesn't have the
correct format. Seems I have two different issues.
|
Ted,
I'm good until your step 3. Going into DFU mode clears the COM port
line and adds the 'Universal Serial Bus devices' line, which has no
drop-down. What next? And where do I find the driver I need, and how
do I install it?
On 8/26/2021 9:41 AM, Ted Chesley
wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Good Morning Terry, Take a look at this to see if the unit is
setting up correct drivers as noted by Ignacio:
1. Go into Device Manager and look at the ports section.
Connect the TinySA and turn ON. A new ST Micro port should show
up as COM PORT #.
2. Place the TinySA in DFU mode. The Ports section COM port
should clear.?
3. Go to Universal Serial Bus Controllers and look for an
entry "STM Device in DFU mode". If it is there and doesn't have
the yellow triangle by it, the DFU driver has loaded correctly.
If it is not there,? or has the yellow triangle, the driver is
incorrect on not loaded.? I had this issue once a while back. I
believe I uninstalled, and reinstalled the driver and everything
was back to normal.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 9:09:54AM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
Is this what I'm looking for?
On 8/26/2021 8:33 AM, EB4APL
wrote:
Hi Terry, a very basic question: Did you updated the
firmware
ever before? If not, probably you don't have the correct
driver for
the DFU mode, this is not the driver used to communicate
with the
PC apps. The DFU mode driver comes with the dfusedemo app
and
without it the firmware can not be uploaded.
Ignacio EB4APL
El 26/08/2021 a las 16:51,
Larry
Acklin escribió:
THis is what I did- Larry
Get the tinySA_version_number.bin file from
and also
download from there the files with names starting
with DFU
(so the latest is tinySA_v1.3-317-g9d82970.bin)
THe other "DFU"??files?are important- the batch
file and etc.
Rename the downloaded file to tinySA.bin
Connect the tinySA with USB, switch the tinySA on
and enter DFU
mode.
Download dfu-util from
and
check you can execute it.
For windows, open a command window and go to the
folder with the
downloaded files and run DFU_LOAD_BIN.bat. The
tinySA should now be
updating with the tinySA.bin file using
dfu-util-static.exe
I did the?above on a W10 PC.
On Linux and Mac make sure dfu-util can run from the
command
prompt. Go to the folder where you downloaded and
renamed
tinySA.bin and execute
dfu-util -a 0 -s 0x08000000:leave -D tinySA.bin
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021
at 10:46 AM
Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
Version is 1.3-111-gcb2fe54. The tinySA app works
great,
except for the upgrading function. After selecting
the file, the
app puts the tinySA into DFU mode automatically, but
as you can see
from the screenshot I posted, the app seems to lose
communication
with it. Same result if I put the unit in DFU mode
manually before
selecting the file. And the dfusedemo app can't even
detect the
device when it's in DFU mode, regardless of whether
I enter the
mode before or after running the app.
On 8/25/2021 10:58 PM, Ted Chesley wrote:
Hey Terry, what FW version do you have
loaded in the TinySA (menu=CONFIG/ VERSION)? And,
when connecting
to the TinySA app (before you try to update) does
everything work
Ok, you get a sweep and can control the unit from
the app?
It appears the program is not sensing the
unit is in DFU mode.
Does the TinySA appear to go into that mode when
selected in menu=
CONFIG/DFU/ENTER DFU, before trying to upgrade?
Perhaps one of our group more familiar with
this might have
some suggestions.?
On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Terry
Perdue
<K8tp@...>
wrote:
? Thanks, that got me closer. I
found that when
thought I copied the firmware file, I
actually copied the
link to the file, hence the .URL.
Using the .dfu file you
supplied I followed your step-by-step, and
it still fails, with
this display:
<foackeggcpkdcopi.png>
On 8/25/2021 7:59 PM, Ted Chesley
wrote:
Hi Terry, see attached, re:
TinySA update
with TinySA app. maybe it will help. Not a
complicated process. The
application does it all. if you follow the
steps attached. You need
to have the correct .dfu file downloaded
from the site. I have
attached it as well (latest ver 1.3.317).
Just copy to a file on
the computer that you can browse to when
the program requests it.
Remember, as soon as you click on the file
it will update and you
can track the progress (which is just a
few seconds) in the test
block.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday August 25 2021 7:05:52PM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update
firmware
? I don’t see anything in
the upgrade document about
renaming any file. Can you elaborate?
On Aug 25, 2021, at
5:08 PM, Larry Acklin <acklin@...>
wrote:
?
I had the same issues. I
used dfu-util, a bit of a
PITA but
figured it out. You need to
follow the how to and also
rename the
file to what the batch file
expects. It’s a DOS based
process but
mine is running latest and
works- passes self test and
Cal.?
And Windows 10 needed to
recognize the tinySA as a
usb device-
running zadig helped get it
recognized. ?
Good Luck?
Larry?
KB3CUF?
On Wed,
Aug 25, 2021 at 7:25 PM
<K8tp@...>
wrote:
I've downloaded dfusedemo,
version 3.0.6. With it
running, I
connect the TinySA and put
it in DFU mode, but the
application
doesn't find it. If it's
any help, when I enter DFU
mode I get the
'USB disconnect' sound.
I've viewed a couple of
YouTube videos, and can't
figure out what I
could be doing wrong.
Also, if I click CHOOSE
and select the new
.DFU file, the application
reports that the file
doesn't have the
correct format. Seems I
have two different issues.
|
Hey Terry, apparently the DFU driver is not loading and showing up in the USB Devices section. This driver (two of them) are installed with the DFUdemo program from ST Micro. I’m not around my computer right now but I’ll look it up when I get back home. It’s possible something went wrong when the ST program was installed. Your ST version number is the same as mine so should be compatible. Look in the program file under ST Micro and see what drivers are listed. Again I’ll look at mine and send you a screen shot later. I am using both Win10 and Win7 with no problems. You mentioned you tried the update on your wife’s laptop, did you also put DFUdemo on it?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Aug 26, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Terry Perdue <K8tp@...> wrote:
?
Ted,
I'm good until your step 3. Going into DFU mode clears the COM port
line and adds the 'Universal Serial Bus devices' line, which has no
drop-down. What next? And where do I find the driver I need, and how
do I install it?
<ljhjpncojjecinbk.png>
On 8/26/2021 9:41 AM, Ted Chesley
wrote:
Good Morning Terry, Take a look at this to see if the unit is
setting up correct drivers as noted by Ignacio:
1. Go into Device Manager and look at the ports section.
Connect the TinySA and turn ON. A new ST Micro port should show
up as COM PORT #.
2. Place the TinySA in DFU mode. The Ports section COM port
should clear.?
3. Go to Universal Serial Bus Controllers and look for an
entry "STM Device in DFU mode". If it is there and doesn't have
the yellow triangle by it, the DFU driver has loaded correctly.
If it is not there,? or has the yellow triangle, the driver is
incorrect on not loaded.? I had this issue once a while back. I
believe I uninstalled, and reinstalled the driver and everything
was back to normal.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 9:09:54AM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
Is this what I'm looking for?
On 8/26/2021 8:33 AM, EB4APL
wrote:
Hi Terry, a very basic question: Did you updated the
firmware
ever before? If not, probably you don't have the correct
driver for
the DFU mode, this is not the driver used to communicate
with the
PC apps. The DFU mode driver comes with the dfusedemo app
and
without it the firmware can not be uploaded.
Ignacio EB4APL
El 26/08/2021 a las 16:51,
Larry
Acklin escribió:
THis is what I did- Larry
Get the tinySA_version_number.bin file from
and also
download from there the files with names starting
with DFU
(so the latest is tinySA_v1.3-317-g9d82970.bin)
THe other "DFU"??files?are important- the batch
file and etc.
Rename the downloaded file to tinySA.bin
Connect the tinySA with USB, switch the tinySA on
and enter DFU
mode.
Download dfu-util from
and
check you can execute it.
For windows, open a command window and go to the
folder with the
downloaded files and run DFU_LOAD_BIN.bat. The
tinySA should now be
updating with the tinySA.bin file using
dfu-util-static.exe
I did the?above on a W10 PC.
On Linux and Mac make sure dfu-util can run from the
command
prompt. Go to the folder where you downloaded and
renamed
tinySA.bin and execute
dfu-util -a 0 -s 0x08000000:leave -D tinySA.bin
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021
at 10:46 AM
Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
Version is 1.3-111-gcb2fe54. The tinySA app works
great,
except for the upgrading function. After selecting
the file, the
app puts the tinySA into DFU mode automatically, but
as you can see
from the screenshot I posted, the app seems to lose
communication
with it. Same result if I put the unit in DFU mode
manually before
selecting the file. And the dfusedemo app can't even
detect the
device when it's in DFU mode, regardless of whether
I enter the
mode before or after running the app.
On 8/25/2021 10:58 PM, Ted Chesley wrote:
Hey Terry, what FW version do you have
loaded in the TinySA (menu=CONFIG/ VERSION)? And,
when connecting
to the TinySA app (before you try to update) does
everything work
Ok, you get a sweep and can control the unit from
the app?
It appears the program is not sensing the
unit is in DFU mode.
Does the TinySA appear to go into that mode when
selected in menu=
CONFIG/DFU/ENTER DFU, before trying to upgrade?
Perhaps one of our group more familiar with
this might have
some suggestions.?
On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Terry
Perdue
<K8tp@...>
wrote:
? Thanks, that got me closer. I
found that when
thought I copied the firmware file, I
actually copied the
link to the file, hence the .URL.
Using the .dfu file you
supplied I followed your step-by-step, and
it still fails, with
this display:
<foackeggcpkdcopi.png>
On 8/25/2021 7:59 PM, Ted Chesley
wrote:
Hi Terry, see attached, re:
TinySA update
with TinySA app. maybe it will help. Not a
complicated process. The
application does it all. if you follow the
steps attached. You need
to have the correct .dfu file downloaded
from the site. I have
attached it as well (latest ver 1.3.317).
Just copy to a file on
the computer that you can browse to when
the program requests it.
Remember, as soon as you click on the file
it will update and you
can track the progress (which is just a
few seconds) in the test
block.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday August 25 2021 7:05:52PM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update
firmware
? I don’t see anything in
the upgrade document about
renaming any file. Can you elaborate?
On Aug 25, 2021, at
5:08 PM, Larry Acklin <acklin@...>
wrote:
?
I had the same issues. I
used dfu-util, a bit of a
PITA but
figured it out. You need to
follow the how to and also
rename the
file to what the batch file
expects. It’s a DOS based
process but
mine is running latest and
works- passes self test and
Cal.?
And Windows 10 needed to
recognize the tinySA as a
usb device-
running zadig helped get it
recognized. ?
Good Luck?
Larry?
KB3CUF?
On Wed,
Aug 25, 2021 at 7:25 PM
<K8tp@...>
wrote:
I've downloaded dfusedemo,
version 3.0.6. With it
running, I
connect the TinySA and put
it in DFU mode, but the
application
doesn't find it. If it's
any help, when I enter DFU
mode I get the
'USB disconnect' sound.
I've viewed a couple of
YouTube videos, and can't
figure out what I
could be doing wrong.
Also, if I click CHOOSE
and select the new
.DFU file, the application
reports that the file
doesn't have the
correct format. Seems I
have two different issues.
|
Yes, I put DFUdemo on my wife's laptop, and it too didn't find the
tinySA, which was in DFU mode.
In the folder shown below, I opened the version.txt file,
and it said to double-click on dpinst_amd64.exe for a 64-bit
system. I did that in the Win10 folder, and it installed the driver.
But dfusedemo still doesn't see the device (in DFU mode), and the
tinySA app still gives gives the result I posted in an early
screenshot. In other words, no change. BTW, thanks for your
continued help. Hopefully there will be a Duh! moment soon.
Terry
On 8/26/2021 10:44 AM, Ted Chesley wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hey Terry, apparently the DFU driver is not loading and showing up
in the USB Devices section. This driver (two of them) are
installed with the DFUdemo program from ST Micro. I’m not around
my computer right now but I’ll look it up when I get back home.
It’s possible something went wrong when the ST program was
installed. Your ST version number is the same as mine so should be
compatible. Look in the program file under ST Micro and see what
drivers are listed. Again I’ll look at mine and send you a screen
shot later. I am using both Win10 and Win7 with no problems. You
mentioned you tried the update on your wife’s laptop, did you also
put DFUdemo on it?
On Aug 26, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Terry
Perdue <K8tp@...> wrote:
?
Ted,
I'm good until your step 3. Going into DFU mode clears the
COM port line and adds the 'Universal Serial Bus devices'
line, which has no drop-down. What next? And where do I find
the driver I need, and how do I install it?
<ljhjpncojjecinbk.png>
On 8/26/2021 9:41 AM, Ted
Chesley wrote:
Good Morning Terry, Take a look at this to see if the unit
is setting up correct drivers as noted by Ignacio:
1. Go into Device Manager and look at the ports
section. Connect the TinySA and turn ON. A new ST Micro
port should show up as COM PORT #.
2. Place the TinySA in DFU mode. The Ports section
COM port should clear.?
3. Go to Universal Serial Bus Controllers and look
for an entry "STM Device in DFU mode". If it is there
and doesn't have the yellow triangle by it, the DFU
driver has loaded correctly. If it is not there,? or has
the yellow triangle, the driver is incorrect on not
loaded.? I had this issue once a while back. I believe I
uninstalled, and reinstalled the driver and everything
was back to normal.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 9:09:54AM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
Is this what I'm looking for?
On 8/26/2021 8:33 AM,
EB4APL wrote:
Hi Terry, a very basic question: Did you updated
the firmware ever before? If not, probably you
don't have the correct driver for the DFU mode,
this is not the driver used to communicate with
the PC apps. The DFU mode driver comes with the
dfusedemo app and without it the firmware can not
be uploaded.
Ignacio EB4APL
El 26/08/2021 a las
16:51, Larry Acklin escribió:
THis is what I did- Larry
Get the tinySA_version_number.bin file
from
and also download from there the files with
names starting with DFU
(so the latest is
tinySA_v1.3-317-g9d82970.bin)
THe other "DFU"??files?are important- the
batch file and etc.
Rename the downloaded file to tinySA.bin
Connect the tinySA with USB, switch the
tinySA on and enter DFU mode.
Download dfu-util from
and check you can execute it.
For windows, open a command window and go to
the folder with the downloaded files and run
DFU_LOAD_BIN.bat. The tinySA should now be
updating with the tinySA.bin file using
dfu-util-static.exe
I did the?above on a W10 PC.
On Linux and Mac make sure dfu-util can run
from the command prompt. Go to the folder
where you downloaded and renamed tinySA.bin
and execute
dfu-util -a 0 -s 0x08000000:leave -D
tinySA.bin
On Thu, Aug
26, 2021 at 10:46 AM Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
Version is 1.3-111-gcb2fe54. The tinySA
app works great, except for the upgrading
function. After selecting the file, the app
puts the tinySA into DFU mode automatically,
but as you can see from the screenshot I
posted, the app seems to lose communication
with it. Same result if I put the unit in
DFU mode manually before selecting the file.
And the dfusedemo app can't even detect the
device when it's in DFU mode, regardless of
whether I enter the mode before or after
running the app.
On 8/25/2021 10:58 PM, Ted Chesley
wrote:
Hey Terry, what FW version do
you have loaded in the TinySA
(menu=CONFIG/ VERSION)? And, when
connecting to the TinySA app (before you
try to update) does everything work Ok,
you get a sweep and can control the unit
from the app?
It appears the program is not sensing
the unit is in DFU mode. Does the TinySA
appear to go into that mode when
selected in menu= CONFIG/DFU/ENTER DFU,
before trying to upgrade?
Perhaps one of our group more
familiar with this might have some
suggestions.?
On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:21
PM, Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
? Thanks, that got me
closer. I found that when thought I
copied the firmware file, I actually
copied the link to the file,
hence the .URL. Using the .dfu file
you supplied I followed your
step-by-step, and it still fails,
with this display:
<foackeggcpkdcopi.png>
On 8/25/2021 7:59 PM, Ted
Chesley wrote:
Hi Terry, see attached,
re: TinySA update with TinySA app.
maybe it will help. Not a
complicated process. The
application does it all. if you
follow the steps attached. You
need to have the correct .dfu file
downloaded from the site. I have
attached it as well (latest ver
1.3.317). Just copy to a file on
the computer that you can browse
to when the program requests it.
Remember, as soon as you click on
the file it will update and you
can track the progress (which is
just a few seconds) in the test
block.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday August 25 2021
7:05:52PM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't
update firmware
? I don’t see
anything in the upgrade
document about renaming any
file. Can you elaborate?
On Aug 25,
2021, at 5:08 PM, Larry
Acklin <acklin@...>
wrote:
?
I had the same
issues. I used
dfu-util, a bit of a
PITA but figured it
out. You need to
follow the how to
and also rename the
file to what the
batch file expects.
It’s a DOS based
process but mine is
running latest and
works- passes self
test and Cal.?
And Windows 10
needed to recognize
the tinySA as a usb
device- running
zadig helped get it
recognized. ?
Good Luck?
Larry?
KB3CUF?
On
Wed, Aug 25, 2021
at 7:25 PM <K8tp@...> wrote:
I've downloaded dfusedemo, version
3.0.6. With it
running, I connect
the TinySA and put
it in DFU mode,
but the
application
doesn't find it.
If it's any help,
when I enter DFU
mode I get the
'USB disconnect'
sound.
I've viewed a
couple of YouTube
videos, and can't
figure out what I
could be doing
wrong. Also, if I
click CHOOSE and
select the new
.DFU file, the
application
reports that the
file doesn't have
the correct
format. Seems I
have two different
issues.
|
The device manager didn't change after installing the driver either.
Sorry to be taking up so much bandwidth with this...
On 8/26/2021 11:11 AM, Terry Perdue
wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Yes, I put DFUdemo on my wife's laptop, and it too didn't find the
tinySA, which was in DFU mode.
In the folder shown below, I opened the version.txt file,
and it said to double-click on dpinst_amd64.exe for a
64-bit system. I did that in the Win10 folder, and it installed
the driver. But dfusedemo still doesn't see the device (in DFU
mode), and the tinySA app still gives gives the result I posted in
an early screenshot. In other words, no change. BTW, thanks for
your continued help. Hopefully there will be a Duh! moment soon.
Terry
On 8/26/2021 10:44 AM, Ted Chesley wrote:
Hey Terry, apparently the DFU driver is not loading and showing
up in the USB Devices section. This driver (two of them) are
installed with the DFUdemo program from ST Micro. I’m not around
my computer right now but I’ll look it up when I get back home.
It’s possible something went wrong when the ST program was
installed. Your ST version number is the same as mine so should
be compatible. Look in the program file under ST Micro and see
what drivers are listed. Again I’ll look at mine and send you a
screen shot later. I am using both Win10 and Win7 with no
problems. You mentioned you tried the update on your wife’s
laptop, did you also put DFUdemo on it?
On Aug 26, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Terry
Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
?
Ted,
I'm good until your step 3. Going into DFU mode clears the
COM port line and adds the 'Universal Serial Bus devices'
line, which has no drop-down. What next? And where do I
find the driver I need, and how do I install it?
<ljhjpncojjecinbk.png>
On 8/26/2021 9:41 AM, Ted
Chesley wrote:
Good Morning Terry, Take a look at this to see if the
unit is setting up correct drivers as noted by Ignacio:
1. Go into Device Manager and look at the ports
section. Connect the TinySA and turn ON. A new ST
Micro port should show up as COM PORT #.
2. Place the TinySA in DFU mode. The Ports section
COM port should clear.?
3. Go to Universal Serial Bus Controllers and look
for an entry "STM Device in DFU mode". If it is there
and doesn't have the yellow triangle by it, the DFU
driver has loaded correctly. If it is not there,? or
has the yellow triangle, the driver is incorrect on
not loaded.? I had this issue once a while back. I
believe I uninstalled, and reinstalled the driver and
everything was back to normal.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 9:09:54AM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
Is this what I'm looking for?
On 8/26/2021 8:33 AM,
EB4APL wrote:
Hi Terry, a very basic question: Did you
updated the firmware ever before? If not,
probably you don't have the correct driver for
the DFU mode, this is not the driver used to
communicate with the PC apps. The DFU mode
driver comes with the dfusedemo app and without
it the firmware can not be uploaded.
Ignacio EB4APL
El 26/08/2021 a las
16:51, Larry Acklin escribió:
THis is what I did- Larry
Get the tinySA_version_number.bin file
from
and also download from there the files
with names starting with DFU
(so the latest is
tinySA_v1.3-317-g9d82970.bin)
THe other "DFU"??files?are important-
the batch file and etc.
Rename the downloaded file to tinySA.bin
Connect the tinySA with USB, switch the
tinySA on and enter DFU mode.
Download dfu-util from
and check you can execute it.
For windows, open a command window and go
to the folder with the downloaded files
and run DFU_LOAD_BIN.bat. The tinySA
should now be updating with the tinySA.bin
file using dfu-util-static.exe
I did the?above on a W10 PC.
On Linux and Mac make sure dfu-util can
run from the command prompt. Go to the
folder where you downloaded and renamed
tinySA.bin and execute
dfu-util -a 0 -s 0x08000000:leave -D
tinySA.bin
On Thu, Aug
26, 2021 at 10:46 AM Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
Version is 1.3-111-gcb2fe54. The tinySA
app works great, except for the upgrading
function. After selecting the file, the
app puts the tinySA into DFU mode
automatically, but as you can see from the
screenshot I posted, the app seems to lose
communication with it. Same result if I
put the unit in DFU mode manually before
selecting the file. And the dfusedemo app
can't even detect the device when it's in
DFU mode, regardless of whether I enter
the mode before or after running the app.
On 8/25/2021 10:58 PM, Ted Chesley
wrote:
Hey Terry, what FW version do
you have loaded in the TinySA
(menu=CONFIG/ VERSION)? And, when
connecting to the TinySA app (before you
try to update) does everything work Ok,
you get a sweep and can control the unit
from the app?
It appears the program is not
sensing the unit is in DFU mode. Does
the TinySA appear to go into that mode
when selected in menu=
CONFIG/DFU/ENTER DFU, before trying to
upgrade?
Perhaps one of our group more
familiar with this might have some
suggestions.?
On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:21
PM, Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
? Thanks, that got me
closer. I found that when thought
I copied the firmware file, I
actually copied the link
to the file, hence the .URL. Using
the .dfu file you supplied I
followed your step-by-step, and it
still fails, with this display:
<foackeggcpkdcopi.png>
On 8/25/2021 7:59 PM, Ted
Chesley wrote:
Hi Terry, see
attached, re: TinySA update with
TinySA app. maybe it will help.
Not a complicated process. The
application does it all. if you
follow the steps attached. You
need to have the correct .dfu
file downloaded from the site. I
have attached it as well (latest
ver 1.3.317). Just copy to a
file on the computer that you
can browse to when the program
requests it. Remember, as soon
as you click on the file it will
update and you can track the
progress (which is just a few
seconds) in the test block.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday August 25 2021
7:05:52PM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't
update firmware
? I don’t see
anything in the upgrade
document about renaming any
file. Can you elaborate?
On Aug 25,
2021, at 5:08 PM,
Larry Acklin <acklin@...>
wrote:
?
I had the same
issues. I used
dfu-util, a bit of
a PITA but figured
it out. You need
to follow the how
to and also rename
the file to what
the batch file
expects. It’s a
DOS based process
but mine is
running latest and
works- passes self
test and Cal.?
And Windows 10
needed to
recognize the
tinySA as a usb
device- running
zadig helped get
it recognized. ?
Good Luck?
Larry?
KB3CUF?
On
Wed, Aug 25,
2021 at 7:25 PM
<K8tp@...>
wrote:
I've downloaded dfusedemo, version
3.0.6. With it
running, I
connect the
TinySA and put
it in DFU mode,
but the
application
doesn't find it.
If it's any
help, when I
enter DFU mode I
get the 'USB
disconnect'
sound.
I've viewed a
couple of
YouTube videos,
and can't figure
out what I could
be doing wrong.
Also, if I click
CHOOSE and
select the new
.DFU file, the
application
reports that the
file doesn't
have the correct
format. Seems I
have two
different
issues.
|
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple of months so I thought I would give it a try. here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the download folder on the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the DFU file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up ready to use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been following, no fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
|
Personally i have been updating FW using my Android phone and the stmdfuusb application.
Put the tinySA in dfu, connect it to the phone USB port, select the firmware and flash.
It supports many fw formats (hex, bin extensions) so just make sure to select the correct format.
/Niel
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 20:16 Terry Perdue < K8tp@...> wrote:
The device manager didn't change after installing the driver either.
Sorry to be taking up so much bandwidth with this...
On 8/26/2021 11:11 AM, Terry Perdue
wrote:
Yes, I put DFUdemo on my wife's laptop, and it too didn't find the
tinySA, which was in DFU mode.
In the folder shown below, I opened the version.txt file,
and it said to double-click on dpinst_amd64.exe for a
64-bit system. I did that in the Win10 folder, and it installed
the driver. But dfusedemo still doesn't see the device (in DFU
mode), and the tinySA app still gives gives the result I posted in
an early screenshot. In other words, no change. BTW, thanks for
your continued help. Hopefully there will be a Duh! moment soon.
Terry
On 8/26/2021 10:44 AM, Ted Chesley wrote:
Hey Terry, apparently the DFU driver is not loading and showing
up in the USB Devices section. This driver (two of them) are
installed with the DFUdemo program from ST Micro. I’m not around
my computer right now but I’ll look it up when I get back home.
It’s possible something went wrong when the ST program was
installed. Your ST version number is the same as mine so should
be compatible. Look in the program file under ST Micro and see
what drivers are listed. Again I’ll look at mine and send you a
screen shot later. I am using both Win10 and Win7 with no
problems. You mentioned you tried the update on your wife’s
laptop, did you also put DFUdemo on it?
On Aug 26, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Terry
Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
?
Ted,
I'm good until your step 3. Going into DFU mode clears the
COM port line and adds the 'Universal Serial Bus devices'
line, which has no drop-down. What next? And where do I
find the driver I need, and how do I install it?
<ljhjpncojjecinbk.png>
On 8/26/2021 9:41 AM, Ted
Chesley wrote:
Good Morning Terry, Take a look at this to see if the
unit is setting up correct drivers as noted by Ignacio:
1. Go into Device Manager and look at the ports
section. Connect the TinySA and turn ON. A new ST
Micro port should show up as COM PORT #.
2. Place the TinySA in DFU mode. The Ports section
COM port should clear.?
3. Go to Universal Serial Bus Controllers and look
for an entry "STM Device in DFU mode". If it is there
and doesn't have the yellow triangle by it, the DFU
driver has loaded correctly. If it is not there,? or
has the yellow triangle, the driver is incorrect on
not loaded.? I had this issue once a while back. I
believe I uninstalled, and reinstalled the driver and
everything was back to normal.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 9:09:54AM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
Is this what I'm looking for?
On 8/26/2021 8:33 AM,
EB4APL wrote:
Hi Terry, a very basic question: Did you
updated the firmware ever before? If not,
probably you don't have the correct driver for
the DFU mode, this is not the driver used to
communicate with the PC apps. The DFU mode
driver comes with the dfusedemo app and without
it the firmware can not be uploaded.
Ignacio EB4APL
El 26/08/2021 a las
16:51, Larry Acklin escribió:
THis is what I did- Larry
Get the tinySA_version_number.bin file
from
and also download from there the files
with names starting with DFU
(so the latest is
tinySA_v1.3-317-g9d82970.bin)
THe other "DFU"??files?are important-
the batch file and etc.
Rename the downloaded file to tinySA.bin
Connect the tinySA with USB, switch the
tinySA on and enter DFU mode.
Download dfu-util from
and check you can execute it.
For windows, open a command window and go
to the folder with the downloaded files
and run DFU_LOAD_BIN.bat. The tinySA
should now be updating with the tinySA.bin
file using dfu-util-static.exe
I did the?above on a W10 PC.
On Linux and Mac make sure dfu-util can
run from the command prompt. Go to the
folder where you downloaded and renamed
tinySA.bin and execute
dfu-util -a 0 -s 0x08000000:leave -D
tinySA.bin
On Thu, Aug
26, 2021 at 10:46 AM Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
Version is 1.3-111-gcb2fe54. The tinySA
app works great, except for the upgrading
function. After selecting the file, the
app puts the tinySA into DFU mode
automatically, but as you can see from the
screenshot I posted, the app seems to lose
communication with it. Same result if I
put the unit in DFU mode manually before
selecting the file. And the dfusedemo app
can't even detect the device when it's in
DFU mode, regardless of whether I enter
the mode before or after running the app.
On 8/25/2021 10:58 PM, Ted Chesley
wrote:
Hey Terry, what FW version do
you have loaded in the TinySA
(menu=CONFIG/ VERSION)? And, when
connecting to the TinySA app (before you
try to update) does everything work Ok,
you get a sweep and can control the unit
from the app?
It appears the program is not
sensing the unit is in DFU mode. Does
the TinySA appear to go into that mode
when selected in menu=
CONFIG/DFU/ENTER DFU, before trying to
upgrade?
Perhaps one of our group more
familiar with this might have some
suggestions.?
On Aug 25, 2021, at 8:21
PM, Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
? Thanks, that got me
closer. I found that when thought
I copied the firmware file, I
actually copied the link
to the file, hence the .URL. Using
the .dfu file you supplied I
followed your step-by-step, and it
still fails, with this display:
<foackeggcpkdcopi.png>
On 8/25/2021 7:59 PM, Ted
Chesley wrote:
Hi Terry, see
attached, re: TinySA update with
TinySA app. maybe it will help.
Not a complicated process. The
application does it all. if you
follow the steps attached. You
need to have the correct .dfu
file downloaded from the site. I
have attached it as well (latest
ver 1.3.317). Just copy to a
file on the computer that you
can browse to when the program
requests it. Remember, as soon
as you click on the file it will
update and you can track the
progress (which is just a few
seconds) in the test block.?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday August 25 2021
7:05:52PM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't
update firmware
? I don’t see
anything in the upgrade
document about renaming any
file. Can you elaborate?
On Aug 25,
2021, at 5:08 PM,
Larry Acklin <acklin@...>
wrote:
?
I had the same
issues. I used
dfu-util, a bit of
a PITA but figured
it out. You need
to follow the how
to and also rename
the file to what
the batch file
expects. It’s a
DOS based process
but mine is
running latest and
works- passes self
test and Cal.?
And Windows 10
needed to
recognize the
tinySA as a usb
device- running
zadig helped get
it recognized. ?
Good Luck?
Larry?
KB3CUF?
On
Wed, Aug 25,
2021 at 7:25 PM
<K8tp@...>
wrote:
I've downloaded dfusedemo, version
3.0.6. With it
running, I
connect the
TinySA and put
it in DFU mode,
but the
application
doesn't find it.
If it's any
help, when I
enter DFU mode I
get the 'USB
disconnect'
sound.
I've viewed a
couple of
YouTube videos,
and can't figure
out what I could
be doing wrong.
Also, if I click
CHOOSE and
select the new
.DFU file, the
application
reports that the
file doesn't
have the correct
format. Seems I
have two
different
issues.
|
It's at step 8 that I run into trouble - the app doesn't show the
device. If it did, I'm sure there would be no problem.
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple of months so I thought I
would give it a try. here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the download folder
on the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the DFU file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up ready to
use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been following, no
fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
|
That happened to me as well.? The fix that worked for me is to go into the device manager, locate the USB port section, find the port that is giving you trouble, and then update the driver.? When asked for the driver location, use the root
of the folder where the DFU software is installed.? Once that driver is updated, you’ll see your device, and the fix will carry over (you won’t have to do this again).
?
73 - Steve
?
It's at step 8 that I run into trouble - the app doesn't show the device. If it did, I'm sure there would be no problem.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple of months so I thought I would give it a try. here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the download folder on the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the DFU file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up ready to use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been following, no fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
?
|
1) Use a known good USB cable, not one used for power connection (many don’t have data lines connected). 2) Don’t use a USB3 port
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 26 Aug 2021, at 19:30, Terry Perdue < K8tp@...> wrote:
It's at step 8 that I run into trouble - the app doesn't show the
device. If it did, I'm sure there would be no problem.
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple of months so I thought I
would give it a try. here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the download folder
on the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the DFU file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up ready to
use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been following, no
fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
|
Terry, I see lots of good feedback. Check the attachment which shows what files should be on the computer after installing DFUdemo.?
Goos Luck...Ted (KD7AQO)? ----------------------------------------- From: "Tim Ostley via groups.io" To: [email protected]Cc: Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 11:36:53AM Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
1) Use a known good USB cable, not one used for power connection
(many don’t have data lines connected).
2) Don’t use a USB3 port
On 26 Aug 2021, at 19:30, Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
It's at step 8 that I run into trouble - the app
doesn't show the device. If it did, I'm sure there would be no
problem. On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif
wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple of months so I
thought I would give it a try. here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of
screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the download folder on
the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the DFU
file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up ready to
use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been following, no
fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
|
Steven - When I put the tinySA in DFU mode, the 'Universal Serial
Bus devices' line appears in the Device Manager. It contains STM
BOOTLOADER. It (and all the other drivers) are reported as
up-to-date.
Tim - The cable is the one supplied with the tinySA, and it works
with the tinySA app, so is fine. It appears that my USB ports are
USB 3.0. Why would that be a problem?
On 8/26/2021 11:34 AM, Steven Reed
wrote:
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That happened to me as well.? The fix that
worked for me is to go into the device manager, locate the USB
port section, find the port that is giving you trouble, and
then update the driver.? When asked for the driver location,
use the root of the folder where the DFU software is
installed.? Once that driver is updated, you’ll see your
device, and the fix will carry over (you won’t have to do this
again).
?
73 - Steve
?
It's at step 8
that I run into trouble - the app doesn't show the device. If
it did, I'm sure there would be no problem.
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple
of months so I thought I would give it a try. here's step by
step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of
screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the download
folder on the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the DFU
file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up
ready to use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been
following, no fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
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That 'STM Device in DFU Mode' entry does not appear when I put the
tinySA in DFU mode (whether the dfusedemo app is running or not),
only the STM32 BOOTLOADER part.
On 8/26/2021 12:24 PM, Ted Chesley
wrote:
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Terry, I see lots of good feedback. Check the attachment which
shows what files should be on the computer after installing
DFUdemo.?
Goos Luck...Ted (KD7AQO)?
-----------------------------------------
From: "Tim Ostley via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 11:36:53AM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
1) Use a known good USB cable, not one used for power
connection
(many don’t have data lines connected).
2) Don’t use a USB3 port
Tim
On 26 Aug 2021, at 19:30, Terry Perdue <K8tp@...>
wrote:
It's at step 8 that I run into trouble - the app
doesn't show the device. If it did, I'm sure there
would be no
problem.
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM,
avvidclif
wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple of months
so I
thought I would give it a try. here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at
top of
screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the
download folder on
the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select
"choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click
on the DFU
file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come
back up ready to
use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been
following, no
fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
|
Terry,
?
Go through the process of updating the driver anyway.? Click on the STM32 Bootloader under USB Devices and find your way to the button to update the driver.? Then select the following location exactly like this.? Be sure “Include subfolders”
is checked.
?
Once the driver is updated, you should see the following when running the program:
?
?
?
Steven - When I put the tinySA in DFU mode, the 'Universal Serial Bus devices' line appears in the Device Manager. It contains STM BOOTLOADER. It (and all the other drivers) are reported as up-to-date.
Tim - The cable is the one supplied with the tinySA, and it works with the tinySA app, so is fine. It appears that my USB ports are USB 3.0. Why would that be a problem?
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On 8/26/2021 11:34 AM, Steven Reed wrote:
That happened to me as well.? The fix that worked for me is to go into the device manager, locate the USB port section, find the port that is giving you trouble, and then update the driver.? When asked for the driver location, use the root
of the folder where the DFU software is installed.? Once that driver is updated, you’ll see your device, and the fix will carry over (you won’t have to do this again).
?
73 - Steve
?
It's at step 8 that I run into trouble - the app doesn't show the device. If it did, I'm sure there would be no problem.
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple of months so I thought I would give it a try. here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the download folder on the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the DFU file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up ready to use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been following, no fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
?
?
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Terry, Steve's response is basically the way I do it.? Never had any issues (knock on wood!!). The comment re: USB 3.0 may be important in your case. There have been a number of reports on the TinySA and NanoVNA interface where people have had issues with USB 3.0 which were cleared up by going to a USB 2.0 port.
But if the driver for DFUdemo doesn't show up in the files in the computer it will not show the TinySA in DFU mode.?
Because you have the PORTS driver installed as the unit works with TinySA-app, and the port assignment goes away when you put the device into DFU mode, it's looking for the driver which apparently it isn't finding. I believe you did have something show up (bootloader?) when going to DFU mode. If so you might try to click on that, go to properties and select update the driver than point to the correct driver in properties x86/STMicroelectronics/Software/DFuSse ver 3.0.6/ and go to the driver file for x64 or x86 (STTub30.sys). ----------------------------------------- From: "Terry Perdue" To: [email protected]Cc: Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 12:29:31PM Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
Steven - When I put the tinySA in DFU mode, the 'Universal Serial
Bus devices' line appears in the Device Manager. It contains STM
BOOTLOADER. It (and all the other drivers) are reported as
up-to-date.
Tim - The cable is the one supplied with the tinySA, and it works
with the tinySA app, so is fine. It appears that my USB ports are
USB 3.0. Why would that be a problem? 
On 8/26/2021 11:34 AM, Steven Reed
wrote:
That happened to me as well.? The fix
that worked for me is to go into the device manager, locate the USB
port section, find the port that is giving you trouble, and then
update the driver.? When asked for the driver location, use
the root of the folder where the DFU software is installed.?
Once that driver is updated, you’ll see your device, and the fix
will carry over (you won’t have to do this again).
?
73 - Steve
?
It's at step 8
that I run into trouble - the app doesn't show the device. If it
did, I'm sure there would be no problem.
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple of
months so I thought I would give it a try. here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the download folder on
the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the DFU
file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up ready to
use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been following, no
fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
?
|
Terry, I'd try Steve's suggestion first. If you get it working with the DFUdemo program, then it should work fine with the TinySA-app.? ----------------------------------------- From: "Ted Chesley" To: " [email protected]" Cc: Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 12:51:30PM Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
Terry, Steve's response is basically the way I do it.? Never
had any issues (knock on wood!!). The comment re: USB 3.0 may be
important in your case. There have been a number of reports on the
TinySA and NanoVNA interface where people have had issues with USB
3.0 which were cleared up by going to a USB 2.0 port.
But if the driver for DFUdemo doesn't show up in the files in
the computer it will not show the TinySA in DFU mode.?
Because you have the PORTS driver installed as the unit works
with TinySA-app, and the port assignment goes away when you put the
device into DFU mode, it's looking for the driver which apparently
it isn't finding. I believe you did have something show up
(bootloader?) when going to DFU mode. If so you might try to click
on that, go to properties and select update the driver than point
to the correct driver in properties
x86/STMicroelectronics/Software/DFuSse ver 3.0.6/ and go to the
driver file for x64 or x86 (STTub30.sys).
-----------------------------------------
From: "Terry Perdue"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Thursday August 26 2021 12:29:31PM
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Can't update firmware
Steven - When I put the tinySA in DFU mode, the 'Universal Serial
Bus devices' line appears in the Device Manager. It contains STM
BOOTLOADER. It (and all the other drivers) are reported as
up-to-date.
Tim - The cable is the one supplied with the tinySA, and it works
with the tinySA app, so is fine. It appears that my USB ports are
USB 3.0. Why would that be a problem?
On 8/26/2021 11:34 AM, Steven Reed
wrote:
That happened to me as well.? The fix
that worked for me is to go into the device manager, locate the USB
port section, find the port that is giving you trouble, and then
update the driver.? When asked for the driver location, use
the root of the folder where the DFU software is installed.?
Once that driver is updated, you’ll see your device, and the fix
will carry over (you won’t have to do this again).
?
73 - Steve
?
It's at step 8
that I run into trouble - the app doesn't show the device. If it
did, I'm sure there would be no problem.
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a couple of
months so I thought I would give it a try. here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the download folder on
the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the DFU
file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up ready to
use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been following, no
fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
?
|
I just did that, spelling out that location, and it says 'The best
drivers for your device are already installed.'
On 8/26/2021 12:45 PM, Steven Reed
wrote:
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Terry,
?
Go through the process of updating the
driver anyway.? Click on the STM32 Bootloader under USB
Devices and find your way to the button to update the driver.?
Then select the following location exactly like this.? Be sure
“Include subfolders” is checked.
?
Once the driver is updated, you should see
the following when running the program:
?
?
?
Steven - When
I put the tinySA in DFU mode, the 'Universal Serial Bus
devices' line appears in the Device Manager. It contains STM
BOOTLOADER. It (and all the other drivers) are reported as
up-to-date.
Tim - The cable is the one supplied with the tinySA, and it
works with the tinySA app, so is fine. It appears that my USB
ports are USB 3.0. Why would that be a problem?
On 8/26/2021 11:34 AM, Steven Reed wrote:
That happened to me as well.? The fix
that worked for me is to go into the device manager,
locate the USB port section, find the port that is giving
you trouble, and then update the driver.? When asked for
the driver location, use the root of the folder where the
DFU software is installed.? Once that driver is updated,
you’ll see your device, and the fix will carry over (you
won’t have to do this again).
?
73 - Steve
?
It's at
step 8 that I run into trouble - the app doesn't show the
device. If it did, I'm sure there would be no problem.
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif
wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a
couple of months so I thought I would give it a try.
here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of
screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the
download folder on the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on the
DFU file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back up
ready to use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been
following, no fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
?
?
|
I just uninstalled and reinstalled dfusedemo. It brings up a
readme.doc file containing the following:
Kind of odd that you won't see the doc file, telling you to run
setup until you've already run setup! Anyway, I don't understand
step 3 at all. (Trying to reach step 4...)
On 8/26/2021 1:09 PM, Terry Perdue
wrote:
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I just did that, spelling out that location, and it says 'The best
drivers for your device are already installed.'
On 8/26/2021 12:45 PM, Steven Reed
wrote:
Terry,
?
Go through the process of updating the
driver anyway.? Click on the STM32 Bootloader under USB
Devices and find your way to the button to update the
driver.? Then select the following location exactly like
this.? Be sure “Include subfolders” is checked.
?
Once the driver is updated, you should
see the following when running the program:
?
?
?
Steven -
When I put the tinySA in DFU mode, the 'Universal Serial Bus
devices' line appears in the Device Manager. It contains STM
BOOTLOADER. It (and all the other drivers) are reported as
up-to-date.
Tim - The cable is the one supplied with the tinySA, and it
works with the tinySA app, so is fine. It appears that my
USB ports are USB 3.0. Why would that be a problem?
On 8/26/2021 11:34 AM, Steven Reed
wrote:
That happened to me as well.? The fix
that worked for me is to go into the device manager,
locate the USB port section, find the port that is
giving you trouble, and then update the driver.? When
asked for the driver location, use the root of the
folder where the DFU software is installed.? Once that
driver is updated, you’ll see your device, and the fix
will carry over (you won’t have to do this again).
?
73 - Steve
?
It's at
step 8 that I run into trouble - the app doesn't show
the device. If it did, I'm sure there would be no
problem.
On 8/26/2021 11:25 AM, avvidclif
wrote:
I haven't updated my Tiny SA in a
couple of months so I thought I would give it a try.
here's step by step
Computer running Win 10 latest 64 bit.
1. Plug in USB cable to computer
2. Turn on SA
3. Plug in cable to SA
4. On SA open menu and go to config
5. Go to DFU
6. Make sure Enter DFU is highlighted
7. Start DFU Demo on computer
8. It should show an STM device in demo mode at top of
screen
9. Go to Eric's site and download the DFU to the
download folder on the computer
10. On DFU Demo go to bottom right and select "choose"
11. It goes to the download folder and then click on
the DFU file
12. Click on upgrade, takes abt 3-4 seconds.
13. Turn SA off and the back on. It should come back
up ready to use.
14. Close DFU demo.
These are the exact steps I followed and have been
following, no fancy setup, nothing
--
Clif at AVVid
?
?
|
I have read multiple place on the lying web that some things designed for USB 2.0 will NOT run under 3.0. I don't know why and don't care. I'm not a nurd.......Can't even spell it.
--
Clif at AVVid
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