yeah all done now thanks for your reply?
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020, 08:42 Magicbean, < smstone@...> wrote: Just checking¡ did you realise that you have to calibrate against a known signal for the high input? It¡¯s not done as part of the high-low connection calibration.?
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for your reply.
Hello from across the pond. Our daughter in law and son live here in Manchester UK. She is American and hopes, COVID willing, to visit her mother in Kansa City over Christmas.? My wife and I have fond memories of visits to the USA (Texas, Missouri, California / Nevada).Listening on?my?Eton E5 RX in Tahoe I was amazed how strong the WWV 10 MHz standard frequency signal was. Before it moved to Boulder it was an excellent calibration signal here in the UK and now is too weak.
My experiences of Amazon UK have always been positive having purchased a number of electronic?items for my ham radio.?? The tracking information was put up on the day I ordered, Sept 13th, and is now saying the tiny is arriving tomorrow. The puzzling thing is the message that was sent by Desuan510 saying that it will be arriving later due to the first item being damaged. Another UK forum user had an identical message and chose the option of stopping his order whereas?I chose to wait for another tiny Sa from Desyuan.
I do not know what the tracking will show later this week but wait with interest.
I shall report my conclusions to the forum about my order probably next week. If my order was to a scammer both Amazon and other potential buyers?need to know.
73 from Phil G3SES
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Hi Phil,
I am not in the UK. I odered my tinySA through Amazon here in the U.S.
and the seller was Seesii (never heard of them before). Over the years I
have had a couple of problems but ordering through Amazon has been very
helpful with any problems. My tinySA was promised to arrive in November
but instead it arrived a couple of days ago. In my case that was little
less than a month. I also ordered my nanoVNA through Amazon. It came
through a different seller and it took most of two months. I paid more
by ordering through Amazon but in the end I received good items and with
peace of mind during the wait.
Do you have tracking information yet? You can contact Amazon if you have
concerns.
73,
Bill? KU8H
bark less - wag more
On 9/20/20 6:25 AM, Philip Stevens wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am still confused where I stand with my purchase of a tinySA from
> Dexuan510 via Amazon UK. Is my credit card purchase frozen until the
> item has been delivered as shown by the tracking diagram?
>
> Other UK hams / electronics enthusiasts must have bought a tinySA
> successfully. Please could you contact me off-list to give?me the name
> of your seller in case the Dexuan situation is a scam.
> As things are, I cannot recommend the purchasing of the tinySA to my UK
> ham friends. We need a reliable safe UK/EU source as reliable USA
> sellers like R&L do net sell to the UK.
> I never had this problem purchasing my nanoVNA..
>
> Please help. Thank you in advance.
>
> Phil G3SES
>
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 19:31, Philip Stevens via
> <> <philg3ses=[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>? ? ?Hi All,
>
>? ? ?Unfortunately, I have already asked for another tinySA and not a refund.
>? ? ?I have had a thank you from Dexuan510 and they understand my request
>? ? ?but no indication of when (if) I shall get an instrument. The
>? ? ?tracking on the original has now stalled before the delivery?period.
>? ? ?How long is it before one can get a?refund?from Amazon? Does Amazon
>? ? ?deal with rogue traders?
>? ? ?Also where else in the UK/EU can one buy a tinySA?
>
>
>? ? ?Phil G3SES
>
>
>? ? ?On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 17:59, Shirley Dulcey KE1L <mark@...
>? ? ?<mailto:mark@...>> wrote:
>
>? ? ? ? ?It's possible that he meant that his entire shipment of tinySA
>? ? ? ? ?was damaged. But I'm with the crowd here; I'd take the money
>? ? ? ? ?(the refund from Amazon) and run to another supplier.
>
>? ? ? ? ?On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:26 PM Larry Rothman
>? ? ? ? ?<nlroth@... <mailto:nlroth@...>> wrote:
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Guys - personally, I would go for the refund as I've seen
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?stuff like this where the seller waits and waits until you
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?can't claim any longer.
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?...Larry
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?On Friday, September 18, 2020, 11:02:31 a.m. EDT, david
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?mugridge <dave@... <mailto:dave@...>> wrote:
>
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Phil, I also bought a tinysa from dexuan510 on amazon UK and
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?received exactly?the same " the case was damaged"?email 3
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?days ago.
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?I suspected there was something amiss, and your receiving
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?the same reply from him has now confirmed it.
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?It may for others stay clear of dexuan510
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Stay safe,
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?Dave
>
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 16:37, Philip Stevens
>? ? ? ? ? ? ?<philg3ses@... <mailto:philg3ses@...>> wrote:
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Erik
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I ordered my first tinysa via?Amazon UK on Sept 12th.
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?The seller is Dexuan.
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Today I received an email from Dexuan to say that the
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?case was damaged and they have given me two options.
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Cancel my order.
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Agree to wait longer for a replacement.
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I agreed to the latter but do not know the? delivery
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?date as yet.
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Let us hope this situation is unusual and packaging will
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?be satisfactory in future.
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?73 from Phil G3SES
>
>
>
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Re: New tinySA control program for Windows
Thanks!
I may have missed some of your changes in capitalization.
scanraw returns a stream of bytes
[0] = '{'
[1] = 'x'
[2] = MSB(measured value) binary format
[3] = MSB(measured value) binary format
[4..] = repeats [1]..[3] for each point
[x] = '}'
if the scan is aborted by touching the tinySA screen the tinySA skips the remaining data points and terminates with sending the final '}'
Measured value is level in (dBm+120) times 32
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Re: New tinySA control program for Windows
Hi Eirk
I'm just adding the changes you've made into my code (with some changes).
Just a word of caution, C and C++ is 99% case sensitive (100% in some cases), so you need to be very careful of that. Case is used and taken full advantage of a great deal out there in the C/C++ world, so getting the case wrong can introduce many bugs that might go undetected and/or difficult to find.
I'll add the scanraw command but at the moment not sure what the raw format is exactly, going to see what I can find.
Cathy
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Not sure what you mean with "not correct".
- Not the same as set in the tinySA?
- The frequency of the markers displayed in tinySA.exe is wrong?
I do suggest you use nanoVNA-app.exe as found at ?as that will allow setting markers.
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I have reported a small bug regarding the PC version of tinySA.exe using GitHub. ?The bug has to with markers not displaying the correct frequency.
Is there support for this program or it is now deprecated?
--
73, Bernie, VE3FWF
(most typos in this message were generated by highly sophisticated auto-correction software)
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Re: New tinySA control program for Windows
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 06:16 AM, hwalker wrote:
1. Its not only the second marker that can't be placed on the but also every other marker after that (See chart below).?
Hope OneOfEleven can investigate this as this is something that should work.
2. Some other controls are currently not applicable and should be hidden or disabled (i.e. info panel, Save S1P, Save S2P).? Maybe change 'Save S1P' to 'Save CSV' and save frequencies and values to that format instead.
Will address this
3. Sometimes inter-acting with the touch screen (i.e. changing start frequency) will lock up the tinySA and require power cycling to regain control.? This issue was caused by the serial buffers not being properly cleared and was addressed by either a DiSlord NanoVNA firmware modification or OneOfEleven software modification, I forgot which.
Also here hope OneOfEleven can help here
4. Chart drop down boxes should only show appropriate chart options (i.e. live trace, stored trace, etc.).
Yes, will address this
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Re: New tinySA control program for Windows
You've managed to work some of it out then :)
I've changed a great deal of code recently in trying to make things easier for you in time to come, but will help where I can soon, just been trying to get it to a point where it's easier to change/update stuff.
Should be good on the TinySA by the looks of it :)
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Hi Phil,
I am not in the UK. I odered my tinySA through Amazon here in the U.S. and the seller was Seesii (never heard of them before). Over the years I have had a couple of problems but ordering through Amazon has been very helpful with any problems. My tinySA was promised to arrive in November but instead it arrived a couple of days ago. In my case that was little less than a month. I also ordered my nanoVNA through Amazon. It came through a different seller and it took most of two months. I paid more by ordering through Amazon but in the end I received good items and with peace of mind during the wait.
Do you have tracking information yet? You can contact Amazon if you have concerns.
73,
Bill KU8H
bark less - wag more
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On 9/20/20 6:25 AM, Philip Stevens wrote: Hi all,
I am still confused where I stand with my purchase of a tinySA from Dexuan510 via Amazon UK. Is my credit card purchase frozen until the item has been delivered as shown by the tracking diagram?
Other UK hams / electronics enthusiasts must have bought a tinySA successfully. Please could you contact me off-list to give?me the name of your seller in case the Dexuan situation is a scam.
As things are, I cannot recommend the purchasing of the tinySA to my UK ham friends. We need a reliable safe UK/EU source as reliable USA sellers like R&L do net sell to the UK.
I never had this problem purchasing my nanoVNA..
Please help. Thank you in advance.
Phil G3SES
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 19:31, Philip Stevens via groups.io <> <philg3ses@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi All,
Unfortunately, I have already asked for another tinySA and not a refund.
I have had a thank you from Dexuan510 and they understand my request
but no indication of when (if) I shall get an instrument. The
tracking on the original has now stalled before the delivery?period.
How long is it before one can get a?refund?from Amazon? Does Amazon
deal with rogue traders?
Also where else in the UK/EU can one buy a tinySA?
Phil G3SES
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 17:59, Shirley Dulcey KE1L <mark@...
<mailto:mark@...>> wrote:
It's possible that he meant that his entire shipment of tinySA
was damaged. But I'm with the crowd here; I'd take the money
(the refund from Amazon) and run to another supplier.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:26 PM Larry Rothman
<nlroth@... <mailto:nlroth@...>> wrote:
Guys - personally, I would go for the refund as I've seen
stuff like this where the seller waits and waits until you
can't claim any longer.
...Larry
On Friday, September 18, 2020, 11:02:31 a.m. EDT, david
mugridge <dave@... <mailto:dave@...>> wrote:
Phil, I also bought a tinysa from dexuan510 on amazon UK and
received exactly?the same " the case was damaged"?email 3
days ago.
I suspected there was something amiss, and your receiving
the same reply from him has now confirmed it.
It may for others stay clear of dexuan510
Stay safe,
Dave
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 16:37, Philip Stevens
<philg3ses@... <mailto:philg3ses@...>> wrote:
Erik
I ordered my first tinysa via?Amazon UK on Sept 12th.
The seller is Dexuan.
Today I received an email from Dexuan to say that the
case was damaged and they have given me two options.
Cancel my order.
Agree to wait longer for a replacement.
I agreed to the latter but do not know the? delivery
date as yet.
Let us hope this situation is unusual and packaging will
be satisfactory in future.
73 from Phil G3SES
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Re: New tinySA control program for Windows
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 04:27 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
OneOfEleven allowed me to modify nanoVNA-app so it can also read the data of the tinySA
Use the version that can be found here:?
After connecting to a tinySA some controls will be hidden.
Switching between high and low mode, setting the attenuator or any other setting will have to be done on the tinySA.
Sweeping over multiple 290 point segments works, markers can be placed (weirdly enough marker 2 could not be placed on the maximum signal) and you can capture the tinySA screen.
Erik, ? Looks like a good first start.? OneOfEleven has done an incredible amount of work on this application in a short period of time.? These are some issues you might want to add to your 'To Do' list: 1. Its not only the second marker that can't be placed on the but also every other marker after that (See chart below).? ??  2. Some other controls are currently not applicable and should be hidden or disabled (i.e. info panel, Save S1P, Save S2P).? Maybe change 'Save S1P' to 'Save CSV' and save frequencies and values to that format instead. 3. Sometimes inter-acting with the touch screen (i.e. changing start frequency) will lock up the tinySA and require power cycling to regain control.? This issue was caused by the serial buffers not being properly cleared and was addressed by either a DiSlord NanoVNA firmware modification or OneOfEleven software modification, I forgot which. 4. Chart drop down boxes should only show appropriate chart options (i.e. live trace, stored trace, etc.). ? Still, its a good first start and NanoVNA-App for tinySA already has more functionality than TinySA.exe. - Herb
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New tinySA control program for Windows
OneOfEleven allowed me to modify nanoVNA-app so it can also read the data of the tinySA Use the version that can be found here:? After connecting to a tinySA some controls will be hidden.  Switching between high and low mode, setting the attenuator or any other setting will have to be done on the tinySA. Sweeping over multiple 290 point segments works, markers can be placed (weirdly enough marker 2 could not be placed on the maximum signal) and you can capture the tinySA screen.
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Hi Phil,
I'm sorry to hear of the problems you are experiencing.
I bought mine from Maggie's store in China, using the method as described in the Tiny SA Wiki.
I received it in the UK in about 10 day's after placing the order, which surprised me as I'd chosen to use normal post.
A very smooth transaction with postal tracking and no duty or additional charges imposed.
Regards,
Martin
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Hi all,
I am still confused where I stand with my purchase of a tinySA from Dexuan510 via Amazon UK. Is my credit card purchase frozen until the item has been delivered as shown by the tracking diagram?
Other UK hams / electronics enthusiasts must have bought a tinySA successfully. Please could you contact me off-list to give?me the name of your seller in case the Dexuan situation is a scam. As things are, I cannot recommend the purchasing of the tinySA to my UK ham friends. We need a reliable safe UK/EU source as reliable USA sellers like R&L do net sell to the UK. I never had this problem purchasing my nanoVNA..
Please help. Thank you in advance.
Phil G3SES ??
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 19:31, Philip Stevens via <philg3ses= [email protected]> wrote: Hi All,
Unfortunately, I have already asked for another tinySA and not a refund. I have had a thank you from Dexuan510 and they understand my request but no indication of when (if) I shall get an instrument. The tracking on the original has now stalled before the delivery?period. How long is it before one can get a?refund?from Amazon? Does Amazon deal with rogue traders? Also where else in the UK/EU can one buy a tinySA?
Phil G3SES
?
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 17:59, Shirley Dulcey KE1L < mark@...> wrote: It's possible that he meant that his entire shipment of tinySA was damaged. But I'm with the crowd here; I'd take the money (the refund from Amazon) and run to another supplier.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:26 PM Larry Rothman < nlroth@...> wrote:
Guys - personally, I would go for the refund as I've seen stuff like this where the seller waits and waits until you can't claim any longer.
...Larry
On Friday, September 18, 2020, 11:02:31 a.m. EDT, david mugridge < dave@...> wrote:
Phil, I also bought a tinysa from dexuan510 on amazon UK and received exactly?the same "
the case was damaged"?email 3 days ago.
I suspected there was something amiss, and your receiving the same reply from him has now confirmed it.
It may for others stay clear of?
dexuan510
Stay safe, Dave
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 16:37, Philip Stevens < philg3ses@...> wrote: Erik
I ordered my first tinysa via?Amazon UK on Sept 12th.
The seller is Dexuan.
Today I received an email from Dexuan to say that the case was damaged and they have given me two options. Cancel my order. Agree to wait longer for a replacement. I agreed to the latter but do not know the? delivery date as yet.
Let us hope this situation is unusual and packaging will be satisfactory in future.
73 from Phil G3SES
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dont own a signal generator yet..but i will try the other steps and im sure i will get it working thanks for the reply...
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 03:30 PM, Scott wrote:
hello there cant seem to beable to calobrate the high input it shows up red on the display.. the low input is calobrated fine that shows in white..have i done something wrong? if you could reply that be great thanks...
Scott,
? If you have an accurate external generator the procedure is straight forward.
? 1.? Connect the generator to the high port using a frequency from 240-960M and at a level that does not over drive the port (i.e. -30dBm).
? 2.? Center the signal and use a span of about 10MHz for good level accuracy.
? 3.? Go to CONFIG->EXPERT CONFIG->ACTUAL POWER and enter the generator output level (i.e. -30dBm).
? 4.? In Step 2 above if the tinySA measured? -28.4dBm, as an example, then after Step 3 it should now be reading -30dBm and the display level values should be white instead of red (this doesn't happen immediately so you may have to wait a few seconds).
? 5.? High port calibration is complete.
? If you don't have an accurate signal generator, than you can use the procedure that Erik demonstrated to calibrate the high port.? He took advantage of the fact that the high and low port have a frequency overlap in in the 240 - 350MHz range.? You can accurately measure a signal within that range using the low port and then use that value as a transfer standard for the same signal measured on the high port in Step 3 above.
? From a serial terminal if you enter 'leveloffset'? before the high port is calibrated the tinySA should return 'leveloffset high 100'.? The '100' indicates no calibration has been performed.? In the example calibration in steps 1-4 above, if the tinySA measured -28.4dBm before calibration and -30dBm after 'ACTUAL POWER' calibration, then the 'leveloffset' command should now return 'leveloffset high -1.6'.
?In the future, again using the above steps as an example, to perform a high port calibration you could just enter the following from a serial terminal:
? 1. leveloffset high -1.6
? 2. saveconfig
? Hope that helps.
? - Herb
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 03:30 PM, Scott wrote:
hello there cant seem to beable to calobrate the high input it shows up red on the display.. the low input is calobrated fine that shows in white..have i done something wrong? if you could reply that be great thanks...
Scott, ? If you have an accurate external generator the procedure is straight forward. ? 1.? Connect the generator to the high port using a frequency from 240-960M and at a level that does not over drive the port (i.e. -30dBm). ? 2.? Center the signal and use a span of about 10MHz for good level accuracy. ? 3.? Go to CONFIG->EXPERT CONFIG->ACTUAL POWER and enter the generator output level (i.e. -30dBm). ? 4.? In Step 2 above if the tinySA measured? -28.4dBm, as an example, then after Step 3 it should now be reading -30dBm and the display level values should be white instead of red (this doesn't happen immediately so you may have to wait a few seconds). ? 5.? High port calibration is complete. ? If you don't have an accurate signal generator, than you can use the procedure that Erik demonstrated to calibrate the high port.? He took advantage of the fact that the high and low port have a frequency overlap in in the 240 - 350MHz range.? You can accurately measure a signal within that range using the low port and then use that value as a transfer standard for the same signal measured on the high port in Step 3 above. ? From a serial terminal if you enter 'leveloffset'? before the high port is calibrated the tinySA should return 'leveloffset high 100'.? The '100' indicates no calibration has been performed.? In the example calibration in steps 1-4 above, if the tinySA measured -28.4dBm before calibration and -30dBm after 'ACTUAL POWER' calibration, then the 'leveloffset' command should now return 'leveloffset high -1.6'. ?In the future, again using the above steps as an example, to perform a high port calibration you could just enter the following from a serial terminal: ? 1. leveloffset high -1.6 ? 2. saveconfig ? Hope that helps. ? - Herb
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hello there cant seem to beable to calobrate the high input it shows up red on the display.. the low input is calobrated fine that shows in white..have i done something wrong? if you could reply that be great thanks...
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 22:03 Erik Kaashoek, < erik@...> wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:43 PM, Scott wrote:
s 2.5 milli watts too high of a input to measure harmonics on the low input on the tiny sa?
That is about +3dBm. If you set the internal attenuator to 30dB you should be ok for harmonics measurement
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Re: Markers avec le logiciel PC
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 09:48 AM, <f1aux56@...> wrote:
1- When I use TINYSA software with my PC WIN7 64 bits, I'm obliged to load "tinysa.cfg" first for good USB connection
It does not remember which port the tinySa was on?
2-With the software I'm not the marker on the image screen ! Markers not added with the mouse rigth click !
Correct. This is not yet implemented
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Markers avec le logiciel PC
Two problem with the software :
1- When I use TINYSA software with my PC WIN7 64 bits, I'm obliged to load "tinysa.cfg" first for good USB connection
2-With the software I'm not the marker on the image screen ! Markers not added with the mouse rigth click !
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New video: tinySA and NanoVNA measuring each other
A short video showing the tinySA and the NanoVNA measuring each other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anG7APSxI9M
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and here
https://tinysa.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.UpdatingTheFirmware
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