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Re: Self Test Fail
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 11:38 AM, hwalker wrote:
? 1. The back of the unit will not have a white sticker with a serial number.Yes Yes Yes |
What was the basis for the TinySA?
We know that having a spectrum analyzer is a very nice tool for the bench. I have often looked through eBay for a used HP or Agilent or Rohdes, or whatever for my use here at home. When the NanoVNA came out I was sceptical at first but then decided to bite the bullet. Now we have a TinySA which I find very useful. There are some functions that are not what I would expect on a SpecAm.
For many years as a Satellite Systems guy I used HP SpecAm (8563A) and it became my life blood in the field looking at transponder signals. So. is there a particular SpecAm that was used as the model for the TinySA? |
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Re: What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone.
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 12:26 PM, S Johnson wrote:
Do I leave the HIGH and LOW ports connected via cable for this step also?? Web page doesn't say disconnect cable, but want to make sure I am not assuming something.I updated the web page ? -- ------------------------------------------
For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
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Re: What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone.
Watch the video
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Re: What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone.
Thanks Eric.? Connecting the HIGH and LOW ports enabled all self-tests to pass.? Now I am supposed to do a LOW level calibration.? Do I leave the HIGH and LOW ports connected via cable for this step also?? Web page doesn't say disconnect cable, but want to make sure I am not assuming something.
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Re: Self Test Fail
Yes, I would agree on going for the refund, but if one was left with an unuseable carcass, it seems a pity to confine it to the Universal Storage System. I suppose the battery and screen might be useful as spares for future need.
If everyone with a clone demanded refunds and made a big fuss, then the Tinysa clones might die out. Steve L |
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Re: What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone.
Please read at least this page?https://tinysa.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.FirstUse
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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
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Re: What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone.
I know I need the read the manual, but with this talk of clones I wanted to do a quick check on my TinySA.? I tried running Self-Test from the menu but got some errors, with the errors suggesting I need to have the connections (Hi/Lo) connected or configured in some way other than both open.
What connections should be made when running the self-test, if any? Also, I saw another message saying that the Tiny SA "HIGH" port was not yet usable.? Should I be only using the LOW port at this time? |
Re: Self Test Fail
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 11:13 AM, Stephen Laurence wrote:
What exactly is it that is failing, as all clones seem to have the same screenshot which should be a bandpass but looks like a flat response with a kink in it.Steve, ? ?Erik spent a lot of time engineering the BPF and that knowledge cannot be copied as easily as cloning a PCB.? The tinySA hardware is not open source so I would think any cloner would have a hard time getting all the nuisances exactly right.? In addition? to the band pass filtering, there is the question of what degree the lack of shielding contributes to the performance degradation. ? If I purchased a clone I would ask for a refund, and would only do a failure analysis out of curiosity if the seller refunded my purchase and told me to just keep the clone. - Herb |
Re: Self Test Fail
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 10:10 AM, Brian Donaldson wrote:
... Can you take a photo of the back of the unit. This will also help others IDing clones. I think Eric said that clones do not have S/N on the back of the unit. Would be interesting to see what the back of your unit looks like..Yes, ? If these clones are originating from a single source then: ? 1. The back of the unit will not have a white sticker with a serial number. ? 2. "Tiny Spertrum Analyzer" on the back will have "Spectrum" miss-spelled. ? 3. "AVDIO STATIC DISCHARGE" on the back will have "AVOID" miss-spelled. ? The additional give away, without opening the case of the unit, is that foam cutout inserts are used instead of molded plastic inserts for packaging.?? ? Sorry some users are being duped into purchasing an inferior product.? The tinySA is in short supply at recommended suppliers and I can understand why some buyers might look outside the supply chain. - Herb |
Re: Self Test Fail
What exactly is it that is failing, as all clones seem to have the same screenshot which should be a bandpass but looks like a flat response with a kink in it.
Are the 400mhz saw filters missing? Can they be inserted, as presumably the circuit board will have been copied from original, so presumably there would be space to insert them. Steve L |
Re: Self Test Fail
I know that Eric has already ID this as a clone. Can you take a photo of the back of the unit. This will also help others IDing clones. I think Eric said that clones do not have S/N on the back of the unit. Would be interesting to see what the back of your unit looks like..
Thanks, Brian D KF6BL |
Re: noise floor at ~1Mhz
This is normal
The stairs come from the stepwise increase of internal amplifications of the auto AGC algorithm If you want to measure very weak signals below 1MHz I suggest to set the AGC to on? (not automatic) and the LNA also on (not automatic) See this video with very detailed explanation:? -- ------------------------------------------
For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
Re: There is something wrong.
#tinysa
Yes, its a clone
Suggest you ask for a refund ------------------------------------------ For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
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