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Re: [TDD] Open Source Project Survey
Thanks Mark. Keith's 'distribution of complexity' measurement approach looks interesting for sure. I wonder if it ever became a research paper - a quick check doesn't show anything. It'd be
By Keith Fogarty <fogarty_keith@...> · #35540 ·
Re: [TDD] Open Source Project Survey
Contact Keith Braithewaite he reviewed a number of open source projects that were done test first, last, not at all. His conclusions are quite interesting. Cheers Mark
By Mark Levison <mark@...> · #35539 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
Units of discipline is an interesting way to look at it. I suppose that is analogous to velocity or capacity. The way I look at it is more from a learning perspective. You give people a whole bunch of
By Adam Sroka · #35537 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
George - we agree. Here's how I think of discipline. Most people have only 80-100 units at one time, asking them not to use Setter's or Classes that Eclipse helpful pops up might cost 10 units. I
By Mark Levison <mark@...> · #35536 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
Mark, :-) I put in long hours. I do have some availability starting late May. All successful programming requires discipline. I've found that TDD makes the discipline easy, combining it with ease of
By George Dinwiddie · #35535 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
Mark, Both Hibernate and Toplink support JPA. And, I think Toplink has been taken over by Eclipse to become EclipseLink ¨C and will be taken forward as open source. John D. Sent: 14 April 2014
By Donaldson, John <john.m.donaldson@...> · #35534 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
George - thanks (BTW with Ron you seem to be the person I know of the most mailing lists - we need to get you some more work :-) I think I touched on your wrapper approach in my previous email. Like
By Mark Levison <mark@...> · #35533 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
Adam - thanks for taking the time to reply. I showed this email to the person who had been making the comments and all of a sudden this isn't what he thinks he had been saying :-) I've never heard
By Mark Levison <mark@...> · #35532 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
Agreed. I was asking Mark
By Avi Kessner · #35531 ·
Open Source Project Survey
Hi, I was hoping you may be able to help. I'm working on a MSc. thesis and am looking to identify Open Source Test-First and Test-Last projects for a research experiment. To this end I was hoping
By Keith Fogarty <fogarty_keith@...> · #35538 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
Avi, Not sure if your question was to me, or to Mark. If it was intended for me, then POJOs are wonderful, but you will in any case need to manage the interface to the database. With an ORM this is
By Donaldson, John <john.m.donaldson@...> · #35530 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
Sorry for my ignorance, but google didn't help me. Whats the problem with using POJOs? brought to you by the letters A, V, and I and the number 47
By Avi Kessner · #35529 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
Mark, I am pretty much in agreement with you. (Struggling with a legacy Toplink app at the moment, Hibernate before that). But, don't forget that an ORM framework is also providing you with other
By Donaldson, John <john.m.donaldson@...> · #35528 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
Mark, I don't have any examples to show, but a pattern I've used successfully is to encapsulate the "data object" within a business domain object. Typically I've used the data object as a parameter
By George Dinwiddie · #35527 ·
Re: [TDD] Examples of Pojo Free Code?
There's nothing about the ORM that forces them to use data classes. The framework typically requires you to follow some conventions and/or configure some options so that it knows how to match types.
By Adam Sroka · #35526 ·
Examples of Pojo Free Code?
I'm running an Agile Development course with some wonderful people at a client who're addicted to their existing ORM. We've been discussing the evil involved in Data Classes (i.e. classes with no
By Mark Levison <mark@...> · #35525 ·
Re: [TDD] How to TDD JavaScript so it thinks it is in a browser.
There are plenty of options for doing TDD with Javascript, qunit with phantomjs is another one.
By Adam Miller <miller.adam.r@...> · #35524 ·
Re: [TDD] How to TDD JavaScript so it thinks it is in a browser.
Karma is a kick ass tool for integration testing. It's better if you can test most of the "business logic" with jsdom, a few mocks, or less. The tests will be super fast that way.
By Adam Sroka · #35523 ·
Re: [TDD] How to TDD JavaScript so it thinks it is in a browser.
I usually TDD with node.js and karma. It allows me to test my code in various browsers at the same time. Cheers, Yoann
By Yoann R. · #35522 ·
Re: [TDD] Testing a class which utilizes randomness
jarod... actually, to validate a PRNG is a very complex piece of sophisticated statistical analysis. as an example, let's take your observation. the numbers 1,2,3,4...n, served in that order, will
By Michael Hill <mike.hill@...> · #35521 ·