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Re: [TDD] Experience with Advanced TDD courses delivered on-site?


 

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Hi Mark

On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:06 AM, Mark Waite mark.earl.waite@... [testdrivendevelopment] <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote:

Ron, our intent is to teach 4 sessions of 15 people each.? At least that's how we envision it working so that the sessions can be code intensive instead of lecture intensive.

Excellent, that allays my concerns on that score.

Is there an outline of the CSD courses which you and Chet teach so that I could look at them to see if they might address (or be customized) to the test driven development challenges we're seeing?

Some of the challenges we've seen have been
  • Database interactions - how to handle database schema version history, database volumes, and database operations
  • Multi-component interaction tests (techniques to rapidly restore stateful components, etc.)
  • User interface driven tests (when to use them, when to avoid them, techniques for managing their brittleness)
  • Performance or throughput related tests
CSD provides a learning experience with practice doing TDD, pair programming, ATDD, continuous integration, and refactoring. It is intended for people with little or no experience in what amounts to the ¡°XP Practices¡±.?

We could surely build a course ¡ª or more accurately a workshop ¡ª such as you have in mind, but the CSD course is not that. We do not offer such a workshop as a matter of ¡°course¡±.

Regards,

Ron Jeffries
If it is more than you need, it is waste. -- Andy Seidl

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