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Ron, our intent is to teach 4 sessions of 15 people each.? At least that's how we envision it working so that the sessions can be code intensive instead of lecture intensive.

Is there an outline of the CSD courses which you and Chet teach so that I could look at them to see if they might address (or be customized) to the test driven development challenges we're seeing?

Some of the challenges we've seen have been

• Database interactions - how to handle database schema version history, database volumes, and database operations
• Multi-component interaction tests (techniques to rapidly restore stateful components, etc.)
• User interface driven tests (when to use them, when to avoid them, techniques for managing their brittleness)
• Performance or throughput related tests

Mark Waite

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Ron Jeffries ronjeffries@... [testdrivendevelopment] <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote:

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Hi Mark, just a thought ...

I would think that a TDD course would be about programming. Certainly mine would, with developers working in pairs.

I’d be reviewing the team’s code after frequent iterations, answering questions, and so on. I don’t see how I could possibly provide value to 60 people at once.

Generally Chet and I limit our CSD courses to 24.

On Dec 8, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Mark Waite mark.earl.waite@... [testdrivendevelopment] <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote:

As part of that improvement effort, we'd like to have a 2-3 day on-site Advanced Test Driven Development course in April 2015 for about 60 people.

Ron Jeffries

You never know what is enough unless you know what is more than enough. -- William Blake

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Thanks!

Mark Waite