SSB demod, was Re: carrirer oscillator
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--- In softrock40@..., w keith griffith <kgriffit@w...>
wrote:
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> I have,,, 'SomeWhere' a really good description of the Weaver ssb
> method.
There's a decent description of the Weaver method in the DSP section
of all the recent ARRL Handbooks.
> How, if at all, does that method compare with the
> softrock?
The SoftRock itself does no demodulation. All it does is sample the
incoming signal in such a way as to mix down to 11250Hz. The
downconverted signal is then dumped to the computer's soundcard.
In the subsequent software DSP on the digitized signal, the SSB
"demodulation" consists entirely of a bandpass filtering stage and
another mixing stage to spin the signal centered at 11025Hz down to
0Hz.
CW is the same, except the mixing stage spins the signal down to the
CW offset frequency (700Hz or whatever) rather than 0Hz.
73
Frank
AB2KT
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softrock40 on the internet!
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First I would like to say how impressed I have been with the little
SoftRock40 and the PowerSDR software. It has been a long time since I
have worked HF and this has really got me interested again. Thanks to
everyone who has put this together.
I have been thinking about putting the SoftRock40 on the internet with a
simple server reading the I/Q signals and serving them to clients that
connect (limited by my uplink speed). What is interesting about this is
that each client can then independently tune across the passband of the
receiver. Imagine a whole network of these little receivers around the
world. Want to check out the conditions on 40 Mtrs in Europe - just
connect to one in Europe and tune around!
I am a Unix/Linux/Java software engineer by profession and have good
development systems for these environments. I do not have any Microsoft
development systems - note the email address ;-).
I have downloaded the Linux code and am currently working on this to use
a socket connection to receive the I/Q data, and also looking at
implementing a GUI interface - possibly in Java.
Would anyone be interested in helping with this development? In
particular I would be looking for someone that would be prepared to look
at the PowerSDR Windows code to modify it to get the audio data from a
socket rather than the audio device or a Wave file.
let me know what you think and if you can be of any help.
Regards,
John Melton, g0orx/n6lyt
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SoftRock-80
Hello everyone.
In keeping with my inability to leave well enough alone, I have
modified a SoftRock for use on 80m. The input filter and transformer
have been changed to allow operation at 3.5Mhz. Essentially, I just
doubled the value of all the original parts, and recalculated the
windings for T1 to maintain the proper impedance matching. I
breadboarded the revised input filter on a piece of perfboard. I
used T37-2 cores to wind the inductors and transformer. Due to the
number of windings on L2 and T1, 30 guage wire was used. If molded
inductors are used for L1 and L2, the new filter could fit in the
original position on the SoftRock board.
A local oscillator crystal at 14.318Mhz yeilds a net center
frequency of about 3.579. This nicely covers the QRP CW frequency
range. A LO crystal of 15.75 Mhz allows tuning around the upper
portion of 80m, for SSB receiving.
I have posted three pictures in the N1RX photo folder showing the
changes. It seems to be working well here. Several SSB stations are
being heard at similar levels to my Elecraft K2. I'm waiting for
dark here to give the CW portion of the band a serious listen.
How much fun can YOU have with a $23.00 radio?
-Bruce, N1RX
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SR-40 Software Compiler for free
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For those interested, I found the link below to free evaluation
software for the Microsoft C# compiler. It's a large download (289
Megs) and some of the software only works until May 2006, other parts
work for a period of 1 year.
Maybe some of the developers can chime in and mention as to whether
it will be useful in re-compiling the software for the SR-40, if not
it's a free learning tool. The real thing is very expensive, unless
you buy a student version at a university.
< http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/vcsharp/default.aspx >
Enjoy.
Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com
I fail to see why doing the same thing over and over and getting the
same results every time is insanity: I've almost proved it isn't;
only a few more tests now and I'm sure results will differ this time ...
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Interesting 40m frequencies
Hi,
I was googling to find a list of interesting frequencies to listen to on
40m. Could anyone show me a list?
Frank
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SoftRock: 30m Crystals now restocked.
Hello everyone. I have been able to aquire a large quantity of the 40.500Mhz
fundamental-mode crystals required to move the SoftRock-40 to 30 meters.
After completely selling out of the original 100 I had, I was able to obtain
several hundred more. This means that there are now enough for ALL SoftRock
owners (including those with pre-AmQRP kits) to have on-hand a crystal or
two for 30m. Due to the large quantity purchased, I am able to maintain the
same price. (just recouping some of the expenses.) If you are interested,
you may order using the instructions below. PayPal, or a check to my address
listed at QRZ.com is OK. Just drop me an email if you are sending payment
through the mail, so I can reserve crystals for you.
73, Bruce, N1RX
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Beford [mailto:bruce.beford@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:57 PM
Subject: SoftRock40 on 30M- Success! Crystals available now.
Hello all.
I have successfully converted a SoftRock40 for use on 30M. Two capacitors
need to be changed from their original values, and a new oscillator crystal
installed. Capacitors C6 and C7 (ver. 4.0 designators) are changed from
their original 100pF to 33pF. The crystal is changed from its original
28.224 to 40.500 Mhz. The original crystal still works with the new
capacitor values (in two units here). (I had tried this before, and didn't
think it worked, but my experiment was flawed. It is working now.)
I have available a quantity of the 40.500 Mhz crystals required. These allow
nearly full coverage of the Amateur 30M band with the SoftRock receiver. As
I announced earlier, I am making these available to all. The price for US
delivery is $2.00 for one crystal, $1.50 each for quantities of two or more.
For foreign addresses (including Canada) the price is $2.50 for one, $2.00
each for two and up. You may send payment via PayPal to
bruce.beford@... I will fill orders on a first-come, first served
basis.
Any questions? Email me direct, and I'll answer as best I can.
73,
Bruce N1RX
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SoftRock-40 round 2 kits in the mail
Our kitting team lead reports that 270 of the SoftRock-40 Kits for Round 2 are now in the mail. The remaining
130 are waiting on the final semiconductor sub-bag of parts coming from the kitter, expected any day, and we'll
likely ship the last of the kits later this week.
Thanks for everyone's patience on our scramble to get this second round of kits out - what a great little
receiver with great big results!
73, George N2APB
http://www.amqrp.org/kits/softrock40
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Battery power IS better. Photos prove it.
Good Morning everyone.
I have posted two more photos to the N1RX folder. These show
the "noise spike" at the center frequency of a SoftRock-40. One
shows the spectra obtained when the SR-40 is powered in the original
fashion, from the USB port of the computer. This uses the original
Q1 power filter circuit. The second photo shows the EXACT SAME SR-
40, powered by bringing in external 5v, derived from a battery
supply, using a 78L05 regulator.
In both cases, the radio is operating on 40M, connected to a dipole
antenna. The only change between the two was to unplug the card from
the USB port, and connect the external power source using a couple
of clip leads. It is clear that better performance can be obtained
by using a seperate source of power for the SoftRock.
For details on how to modify the SoftRock for non-computer power,
see the appropriate photos in the N1RX folder.
73,
Bruce N1RX
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Battery power IS better. Photos prove it.
Good Morning everyone.
I have posted two more photos to the N1RX folder. These show
the "noise spike" at the center frequency of a SoftRock-40. One
shows the spectra obtained when the SR-40 is powered in the original
fashion, from the USB port of the computer. This uses the original
Q1 power filter circuit. The second photo shows the EXACT SAME SR-
40, powered by bringing in external 5v, derived from a battery
supply, using a 78L05 regulator.
In both cases, the radio is operating on 40M, connected to a dipole
antenna. The only change between the two was to unplug the card from
the USB port, and connect the external power source using a couple
of clip leads. It is clear that better performance can be obtained
by using a seperate source of power for the SoftRock.
For details on how to modify the SoftRock for non-computer power,
see the appropriate photos in the N1RX folder.
73,
Bruce N1RX
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Sorry for the duplicate posts.
Of course, the original and a copy showed up as soon as I reposted.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
-Bruce.
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SoftRock40 partial kits are sold
Very sorry if you missed out on one of the SoftRock40 partial kits but
they are all spoken for at this point.
Thanks for your interest.
73,
Tony KB9YIG
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Epson SG-8002 Programmable Oscillator
While looking for crystals for the SR-40, I'm considering buying some
Epson SG-8002 Programmable Oscillators the 50ppm type so I can dial
the frequency I need that are not available in crystals. They are
about $5.15 each
I'm a little concerned with clock jitter (phase noise), does anyone
have any experience with these chips?
Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com
'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then
beat you with experience.'
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[soft_radio] Epson SG-8002 Programmable Oscillator
Hi Cecil,
I would recommend steering clear of these programmable oscillators for any RF type work. The jitter is much too great for good RF performance.
73,
- Steve N7HPR
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Another SDR program for SR40
I have been unable to run Flex Radio's Power SDR on
my windows ME system. The program starts to initialize but stops and hangs
while initializing the dsp function. A while back some one else on the
list reported the same problem on a windows 95 system.
I2PHD has another SDR program that seems to work
fine with the SR40. This program is available for free download at http://www.sdradio.org/. The download
is less than a meg and worked as soon as I plugged the SR40 into the mike
input of the soundcard rather than line-in. I2PHD's program works fine
with windows ME and may work with 95 too. It's worth a try.
73,
Nick Brown AB0WE
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Board is Back
Tony,
Got the board back in the mail today. Nice job and thanks much. Need to
get busy and stuff the rest of the parts.
Chuck Carpenter, W5USJ, Point, TX -|- Rains Co. -|- EM22cv -|- 72 es 73
50 years -|- 19 - K2OFN and 31 - W5USJ -|- Most fun = QRP since 1984.
www.w5usj.com hosted by Hamnutz.com -|- NeTxQRP www.netxqrp.com
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It works !
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Completed assembly several days ago. Currently Using I2PHD's
http://www.sdradio.org/ program which I had already installed on my PC
for experimenting with the R2PRO.
Was able to get at least 50dB of image rejection by carefully adjusting
the amplitude and time delay settings in the program's control panel.
Thanks to all involved for this interesting project
73,
Bob Johansen WB2SRF
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Battery power IS better. Photos prove it.
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Apparently, my last message on this got lost in the server somehwere.
I have uploaded two new photos to the N1RX folder that show the
difference between powering the SoftRock from the USB port vs using
a battery powered supply.
Both photos show the central noise spike from an SR-40 connected to
a dipole antenna. The only difference between the two photos are the
source of power. In the first, the SR-40 is powered by the USB port,
using the standard Q1 power conditioner. In the second, the SAME SR-
40 is now powered by a 78L05 voltage regulator, driven by a battery.
Notice the difference in the width of the central noise spike.
Better performance from the SR-40 can be obtained by running from a
power source OTHER than the USB port on the computer. Battery power
is best. For details on how to modify the SoftRock to use non-
computer power, see the other photos in the N1RX folder.
73,
Bruce N1RX
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Minimum Computer for SR40 ?
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With all the excitement about the SR40 on 40m and 30m .....maybe 80m and 60m and keeping it simple ....pluggable bandswitching, etc ....I'm thinking laptop, QRP CW operation in the field.
How much can you reduce the computer load/requirement and still have acceptable performance. What have you guys tried and had success using ?
73 Kees K5BCQ
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Software development with C#
Are any other C# platforms being successfully used to compile the
Flex software other that MS Visual Studio ?
What about ;
Mono
Grasshopper
C#Builder
??
Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com
I fail to see why doing the same thing over and over and getting the
same results every time is insanity: I've almost proved it isn't;
only a few more tests now and I'm sure results will differ this time ...
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Software Installation...
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Hello All,
I'm trying to install the PowerSDR software and the
following Fatal Error dialog box pops up behind the
splash screen:
Interop.ADOX or one of its dependencies was not found
at PowerSDR.DB.Create()
at PowerSDR.DB.Init()
at PowerSDR.Console..ctor(String[] args)
at PowerSDR.Console.Main(String[] args)
Any ideas as to how to deal with this problem?
The software had been previously installed and
working, but an issue arose and I needed to uninstall
it and now am trying to reinstall...
Thanks,
Bob - KI8JM
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