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cannot seem to get Ensemble RX II working


 

Hello again! Well, after having no luck getting the Ensemble RX II working in Ubuntu, I have tried to do so in an older desktop I had with Win 7. However, I am experiencing the same issues I had when trying in Ubuntu, so I am thinking there is something I'm missing. If anyone knows of a free screen video capture for Win 7, please let me know and I'll try and show you settings/ etc. For now, I have four questions:

1) I am getting "unknown device" error if anything is plugged into USB other than the Softrock. If I boot up with only the Softrock connected, it is recognized and then I can plug in my USB keyboard and mouse, but I can't have anything connected other than the Softrock at boot, otherwise I get the error. What is the workaround? For now, I can use the two USB front ports to plug in keyboard/ mouse after boot up but not very convenient. Win 7 on an HP a1520n.

2) I used the process described at to try setting up the unit. However, since the desktop cannot be connected to the internet, I of course got an error when trying to install the ConFiG SoftRock tool on page 7. So I installed the CFGSR from here: (ver 2.3), but no idea if that is the correct version.

3) This may seem silly, but I own both the LF and HF Ensemble receivers. They both look identical. How do I tell the difference externally or is there something in software that differentiates one from the other?

4) When I was trying to get these running in Ubuntu, I may have manipulated some of the Ensemble settings. How do I reset the unit to factory default?

Thanks in advance. Next step will be sharing screen video if above doesn't help.


 

On 06/02/2021 14:08, JonI via groups.io wrote:
If anyone knows of a free screen video capture for Win 7, please let me know and I'll try and show you settings
I believe you can use PrintScrn or Alt-PrintScrn to copy either the whole screen or current window to the clipboard.


 

JonI,

> 1) I am getting "unknown device" error if anything is plugged into
USB other than the Softrock. If I boot up with only the Softrock connected, it is recognized and then I can plug in my USB keyboard and mouse, but I can't have anything connected other than the Softrock at boot, otherwise I get the error. What is the workaround?
This can be solved by using a hub for the mouse/keyboard. Or, for the Softrock. Experiment.

So I installed the CFGSR from here: (ver 2.3), but no idea if that is the correct version.
Probably good enough, nothing much changed, just non-Softrock things. I think 2.6 was the last, not sure if it is on a site now but if you need any missing feature let us know. Tried another link, OK
3) This may seem silly, but I own both the LF and HF Ensemble receivers. They both look identical. How do I tell the difference externally or is there something in software that differentiates one from the other?
The LF has an extra divider, that's all. Normal tuning will be wrong, that's the only way without looking.

4) When I was trying to get these running in Ubuntu, I may have manipulated some of the Ensemble settings. How do I reset the unit to factory default?
CFGSR resets.


73 Alan G4ZFQ


 

I have successfully set it up on several Win7 machines. I think I used
instructions from WB5RVZ, Let me look around a bit.

As for (3), the only way I know how to tell is to look at the board and see
what inductors are being used. Software doesn't tell you which unit you
have.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 8:23 AM JonI via groups.io <ji425bt=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hello again! Well, after having no luck getting the Ensemble RX II
working in Ubuntu, I have tried to do so in an older desktop I had with Win
7. However, I am experiencing the same issues I had when trying in Ubuntu,
so I am thinking there is something I'm missing. If anyone knows of a free
screen video capture for Win 7, please let me know and I'll try and show
you settings/ etc. For now, I have four questions:

1) I am getting "unknown device" error if anything is plugged into USB
other than the Softrock. If I boot up with only the Softrock connected, it
is recognized and then I can plug in my USB keyboard and mouse, but I can't
have anything connected other than the Softrock at boot, otherwise I get
the error. What is the workaround? For now, I can use the two USB front
ports to plug in keyboard/ mouse after boot up but not very convenient.
Win 7 on an HP a1520n.

2) I used the process described at
to try setting up the
unit. However, since the desktop cannot be connected to the internet, I of
course got an error when trying to install the ConFiG SoftRock tool on
page 7. So I installed the CFGSR from here:
(ver 2.3), but no idea
if that is the correct version.

3) This may seem silly, but I own both the LF and HF Ensemble receivers.
They both look identical. How do I tell the difference externally or is
there something in software that differentiates one from the other?

4) When I was trying to get these running in Ubuntu, I may have
manipulated some of the Ensemble settings. How do I reset the unit to
factory default?

Thanks in advance. Next step will be sharing screen video if above
doesn't help.





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Hi again guys,

Well, get your 2x4's ready to hit me.? It apparently is just the 10' wire I have pushed into the unit for a temporary antenna.? I went over and over the settings again and everything seemed right.? The only transceiver I have available at this time is an old Realistic 10 meter HTX-100.? I set that up into a dummy, transmitted and got an almost full meter response on the Ensemble!? Could it be all this time I have had an insufficient antenna? ? What threw me off is that I would have thought at least one of the WWV frequencies would have shown up even with the temporary wire, but nothing.? Perhaps the input on the Ensemble isn't like the old Sears portable shortwave radio I used to have as it had just an extendable whip.? Maybe not, 50 ohm impedance versus whatever the whip had.

The only thing remaining now is calibration.? When transmitting at 28.285, on the Softrock is showing 28.3265.


 

Congrats Joni. We have all "been there, done that". As for the
calibration.... you really don't know if the Radio Shack rig is off
frequency or if the Softrock Calibration needs tweeking. Best to find WWV
on 10MHz and see what the Softrock says.

Good Luck,

Dave, K4TO



On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 10:48 AM JonI via groups.io <ji425bt=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi again guys,

Well, get your 2x4's ready to hit me. It apparently is just the 10'
wire I have pushed into the unit for a temporary antenna. I went over
and over the settings again and everything seemed right. The only
transceiver I have available at this time is an old Realistic 10 meter
HTX-100. I set that up into a dummy, transmitted and got an almost full
meter response on the Ensemble! Could it be all this time I have had an
insufficient antenna? What threw me off is that I would have thought
at least one of the WWV frequencies would have shown up even with the
temporary wire, but nothing. Perhaps the input on the Ensemble isn't
like the old Sears portable shortwave radio I used to have as it had
just an extendable whip. Maybe not, 50 ohm impedance versus whatever
the whip had.

The only thing remaining now is calibration. When transmitting at
28.285, on the Softrock is showing 28.3265.









 

Thanks, Dave.? Well, wouldn't you know that this old desktop suddenly went blue screen and shut down.? Upon booting, one long beep and no screen.? At first, I thought the video card, but no. A bad memory module.? That only leaves 512K in this bugger.? I'm checking the remaining module now to make sure it's ok.? Where there's a will.....

I recently changed the power supply in this desktop so, just to make sure, I'll try booting with only one module at a time.? If they both boot up, then I'll suspect the power supply but I'm almost certain it is the one module.

On 2/6/21 11:36 AM, Dave Sublette wrote:
Congrats Joni. We have all "been there, done that". As for the
calibration.... you really don't know if the Radio Shack rig is off
frequency or if the Softrock Calibration needs tweeking. Best to find WWV
on 10MHz and see what the Softrock says.

Good Luck,

Dave, K4TO



On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 10:48 AM JonI via groups.io <ji425bt=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi again guys,

Well, get your 2x4's ready to hit me. It apparently is just the 10'
wire I have pushed into the unit for a temporary antenna. I went over
and over the settings again and everything seemed right. The only
transceiver I have available at this time is an old Realistic 10 meter
HTX-100. I set that up into a dummy, transmitted and got an almost full
meter response on the Ensemble! Could it be all this time I have had an
insufficient antenna? What threw me off is that I would have thought
at least one of the WWV frequencies would have shown up even with the
temporary wire, but nothing. Perhaps the input on the Ensemble isn't
like the old Sears portable shortwave radio I used to have as it had
just an extendable whip. Maybe not, 50 ohm impedance versus whatever
the whip had.

The only thing remaining now is calibration. When transmitting at
28.285, on the Softrock is showing 28.3265.










 

Conditions have not been great lately. I could barely hear WWV on 10 MHz in
the afternoon yesterday. 5 MHz a couple hours after sunset was much better.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 9:48 AM JonI via groups.io <ji425bt=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi again guys,

Well, get your 2x4's ready to hit me. It apparently is just the 10'
wire I have pushed into the unit for a temporary antenna. I went over
and over the settings again and everything seemed right. The only
transceiver I have available at this time is an old Realistic 10 meter
HTX-100. I set that up into a dummy, transmitted and got an almost full
meter response on the Ensemble! Could it be all this time I have had an
insufficient antenna? What threw me off is that I would have thought
at least one of the WWV frequencies would have shown up even with the
temporary wire, but nothing. Perhaps the input on the Ensemble isn't
like the old Sears portable shortwave radio I used to have as it had
just an extendable whip. Maybe not, 50 ohm impedance versus whatever
the whip had.

The only thing remaining now is calibration. When transmitting at
28.285, on the Softrock is showing 28.3265.








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Thanks, Zack.? Well, I'm having the same thing right now!? There is a station booming in below WWV, but I can hardly hear WWV.? I ended up having to switch I/O for input which was causing most of my frequency offsets.? Now, it's still a little off, but if I ever get a good WWV, I'll use it for calibration.?? No wonder I wasn't picking it up at all with a 10' wire.? Now still not great, but at least on an attic dipole.

I had forgotten so much since I last had the Ensembles set up, which was a decade ago.

On 2/6/21 2:33 PM, Zack Widup wrote:
Conditions have not been great lately. I could barely hear WWV on 10 MHz in
the afternoon yesterday. 5 MHz a couple hours after sunset was much better.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 9:48 AM JonI via groups.io <ji425bt=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi again guys,

Well, get your 2x4's ready to hit me. It apparently is just the 10'
wire I have pushed into the unit for a temporary antenna. I went over
and over the settings again and everything seemed right. The only
transceiver I have available at this time is an old Realistic 10 meter
HTX-100. I set that up into a dummy, transmitted and got an almost full
meter response on the Ensemble! Could it be all this time I have had an
insufficient antenna? What threw me off is that I would have thought
at least one of the WWV frequencies would have shown up even with the
temporary wire, but nothing. Perhaps the input on the Ensemble isn't
like the old Sears portable shortwave radio I used to have as it had
just an extendable whip. Maybe not, 50 ohm impedance versus whatever
the whip had.

The only thing remaining now is calibration. When transmitting at
28.285, on the Softrock is showing 28.3265.








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Ok, "unknown device" solved.? Found an old, unpowered hub I didn't know I had.? Plugged keyboard/ mouse into that and now no more trouble.? I must have used this ten years ago, or at the time I may have had all non-USB keyboard and mice.

Since switching I/Q, HDSDR reads about 3 Kc off from WWV.? I tried a calibration, but nothing happened so welcome any guidance there.

Other than that, now if I plug in the LF Ensemble II, how would I go about picking it?? Can I leave them both (LF and HF Ensembles) plugged into their own USB ports all the time, or just plug in only when I want to use either one?

Finally, would welcome any way to deal with transformer noise. My router uses a small switching transformer.? I don't know if I can find a transformer based equivalent or not.? Perhaps some toroids in line between the unit and connection to router?

Thanks again!


 

Just about everything's working now.? I found some info on calibration and just doing "A calibration" is good enough for now.? Other than that, WWV finally came in better and listened to some ham activity on 40/80 meters.

I decided to try using my external sound card, a Behringer umc202hd, which is 192 Khz, instead of the internal M-audio Audiophile 2496 (96 Khz), but I had a hard time getting past even 48 Khz bandwidth with the Behringer while using HDSDR on Win 7. Any ideas for using that welcome.? Thanks again.


 

Hello again Joni,

I am no computer guy, but I too once explored trying to get more than 92KHz
bandwidth on my softrock display. If I recall correctly, the reason you
cannot get that much bandwidth is due to the drivers used in conjunction
with processing the sound card outputs. However, on a practical basis, I
find that even 92 KHz is too much for me. I have trouble reading the
frequency if the scale of the spectrum isn't spread out enough. Maybe it's
just my eyesight.

At any rate, my Ensemble II HF and its companion Ensemble II VHF for two
meters have done very well for me over the years.

Good luck getting yours back up and running.

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 11:24 AM JonI via groups.io <ji425bt=
[email protected]> wrote:

Just about everything's working now. I found some info on calibration
and just doing "A calibration" is good enough for now. Other than that,
WWV finally came in better and listened to some ham activity on 40/80
meters.

I decided to try using my external sound card, a Behringer umc202hd,
which is 192 Khz, instead of the internal M-audio Audiophile 2496 (96
Khz), but I had a hard time getting past even 48 Khz bandwidth with the
Behringer while using HDSDR on Win 7. Any ideas for using that welcome.
Thanks again.








 

Thanks, Dave.? I may try some other software other than HDSDR and see if that does anything.? If not, the 92 Khz I get with the Audiophile card will be sufficient.? I have the Behringer for sale anyway.

Well, both the LF and HF Softrock have been tried.? If I stick with the "HF Softrock" in the HDSDR config settings, both units seem to work although I can't get into the LF range with the LF Softrock.? If I try and reset the config to "LF Softrock" with the LF unit, it hardly works at all (no broadcast band stations received on LF config, but HF config only).? So, still trying to narrow that down.

On 2/7/21 12:34 PM, Dave Sublette wrote:
Hello again Joni,

I am no computer guy, but I too once explored trying to get more than 92KHz
bandwidth on my softrock display. If I recall correctly, the reason you
cannot get that much bandwidth is due to the drivers used in conjunction
with processing the sound card outputs. However, on a practical basis, I
find that even 92 KHz is too much for me. I have trouble reading the
frequency if the scale of the spectrum isn't spread out enough. Maybe it's
just my eyesight.

At any rate, my Ensemble II HF and its companion Ensemble II VHF for two
meters have done very well for me over the years.

Good luck getting yours back up and running.

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 11:24 AM JonI via groups.io <ji425bt=
[email protected]> wrote:

Just about everything's working now. I found some info on calibration
and just doing "A calibration" is good enough for now. Other than that,
WWV finally came in better and listened to some ham activity on 40/80
meters.

I decided to try using my external sound card, a Behringer umc202hd,
which is 192 Khz, instead of the internal M-audio Audiophile 2496 (96
Khz), but I had a hard time getting past even 48 Khz bandwidth with the
Behringer while using HDSDR on Win 7. Any ideas for using that welcome.
Thanks again.