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On Jul 16, 2021, at 11:55 AM, JonI via groups.io <ji425bt@...> wrote:

I thought I'd also mention picking up one of these some time back when I was in a bind, did not have a lot of extra funds, and needed something besides solder wicking and/or solder plungers, neither of which I have had very much luck with over the years:

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The motivation behind this was a cracked slug when I was attempting to retune a bandpass filter in a rig I've been trying to tune up and align. Only way to remove the slug was to desolder the bandpass filter and I knew wicking/ plunger wasn't going to do it very well. Well, the above device took about 6 weeks to arrive, I tapped into my 220 VAC lines, and the device ensured success. Keep in mind that it's quite crude compared to much more expensive desolderers and may take several tries (orientation and heating have to be exact), but it works. My advice would be to keep it activated as solder is removed from a joint, then release over a trash can/ towel, etc otherwise solder flies right back onto the board if you release it right away. And you don't want it to remain activated too long as I believe it uses a electromagnetic coil which could get hot quickly. I try to use a duty cycle.

Not a bad little device for the price, however.

Jon

Good Morning Group,

Here is a related question concerning building Softrock circuit boards
using inexpensive soldering irons. I have been doing such building for lots
of years, with hundreds of the RX II receiver boards and RXTX transceiver
boards built and shipped. I still do it at 80 years old with shaky hands,
or at least would like to do it, but the inexpensive soldering irons I have
used successfully for years, no longer get hot enough to cause the solder
to melt and flow. My rural REMC power, actually energy, company still
provides 240/120 VAC to my workshop, as in second floor bedroom, where I do
the kit builds.

Thinking that maybe slightly higher voltage would result in a hotter
soldering iron temperature I have connected the secondary of a 120 volts
in, 8 volts out transformer secondary in series with the 120 VAC power. My
inexpensive DVM now indicates 130 VAC to my soldering iron but still no
proper melting of solder. I have tried three different irons with the same
failure to properly melt solder.

Is there something obvious that my "Parkinson" refined head is missing???

Best regards,
Tony, kb9yig

On Jul 15, 2021, at 8:55 AM, Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@...> wrote:

Sort of related -

I need to make an attenuator for my FT817 on transmit as a 432 MHz
microwave IF radio. I have the appropriate carbon-film resistors. I
measured them on my NanoVNA to see what they measure at 432 MHz. Two 200
ohm 1 watt resistors measure 198 ohms on my DVM. The NanoVNA measures 198
otms up to about 500 kHz, and then the resistance starts to climb. At 432
MHz they both measure 225 ohms with a small amount of inductance (12

nH). I

measured a 68 ohm carbon-film resistor with similar results - it measures
67.5 ohms with the DVM and the NanoVNA up to about 500 kHz. At 432 MHz it
measures 86 ohms and a small inductance. I measured a 100 ohm carbon
composition resistor. It measured 102 ohms on the DVM and with the

NanoVNA

up to about 1 MHz. The resistance barely changed on the NanoVNA. At 432

MHz

it measured 106 ohms.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 3:30 AM Alan G4ZFQ <alan4alan@...> wrote:

Roland,

Thanks for looking.
It seems whenever meters like the LC-100 are mentioned for use with HF
Ls and Cs someone pops up inferring that the few 100s of KHz they use
will give wrong readings.

I was looking for evidence that such inductors exhibited different
values at different frequencies within their range but you have pointed
out the simple fact that 500KHz is not suitable for measuring mains
power components or VHF components.

Your link gives a good explanation and more detail. I think as you say
these meters are very unlikely to be a problem for checking components
specified for HF use.

73 Alan G4ZFQ

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Good Morning Group,

Here is a related question concerning building Softrock circuit boards using inexpensive soldering irons. I have been doing such building for lots of years, with hundreds of the RX II receiver boards and RXTX transceiver boards built and shipped. I still do it at 80 years old with shaky hands, or at least would like to do it, but the inexpensive soldering irons I have used successfully for years, no longer get hot enough to cause the solder to melt and flow. My rural REMC power, actually energy, company still provides 240/120 VAC to my workshop, as in second floor bedroom, where I do the kit builds.

Thinking that maybe slightly higher voltage would result in a hotter soldering iron temperature I have connected the secondary of a 120 volts in, 8 volts out transformer secondary in series with the 120 VAC power. My inexpensive DVM now indicates 130 VAC to my soldering iron but still no proper melting of solder. I have tried three different irons with the same failure to properly melt solder.

Is there something obvious that my "Parkinson" refined head is missing???

Best regards,
Tony, kb9yig

On Jul 15, 2021, at 8:55 AM, Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@...> wrote:

Sort of related -

I need to make an attenuator for my FT817 on transmit as a 432 MHz
microwave IF radio. I have the appropriate carbon-film resistors. I
measured them on my NanoVNA to see what they measure at 432 MHz. Two 200
ohm 1 watt resistors measure 198 ohms on my DVM. The NanoVNA measures 198
otms up to about 500 kHz, and then the resistance starts to climb. At 432
MHz they both measure 225 ohms with a small amount of inductance (12 nH). I
measured a 68 ohm carbon-film resistor with similar results - it measures
67.5 ohms with the DVM and the NanoVNA up to about 500 kHz. At 432 MHz it
measures 86 ohms and a small inductance. I measured a 100 ohm carbon
composition resistor. It measured 102 ohms on the DVM and with the NanoVNA
up to about 1 MHz. The resistance barely changed on the NanoVNA. At 432 MHz
it measured 106 ohms.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 3:30 AM Alan G4ZFQ <alan4alan@...> wrote:

Roland,

Thanks for looking.
It seems whenever meters like the LC-100 are mentioned for use with HF
Ls and Cs someone pops up inferring that the few 100s of KHz they use
will give wrong readings.

I was looking for evidence that such inductors exhibited different
values at different frequencies within their range but you have pointed
out the simple fact that 500KHz is not suitable for measuring mains
power components or VHF components.

Your link gives a good explanation and more detail. I think as you say
these meters are very unlikely to be a problem for checking components
specified for HF use.

73 Alan G4ZFQ

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I have had the same experience with three Weller soldering units. Sometimes one gets hot enough then not so much. It could be the tip which can be changed although I haven’t tried that since sometimes it works. If I use two irons it works fine so it acts like there is not enough thermal mass in the iron or not enough heat flow.
Gary
W9TD

Good Morning Group,

Here is a related question concerning building Softrock circuit boards using inexpensive soldering irons. I have been doing such building for lots of years, with hundreds of the RX II receiver boards and RXTX transceiver boards built and shipped. I still do it at 80 years old with shaky hands, or at least would like to do it, but the inexpensive soldering irons I have used successfully for years, no longer get hot enough to cause the solder to melt and flow. My rural REMC power, actually energy, company still provides 240/120 VAC to my workshop, as in second floor bedroom, where I do the kit builds.

Thinking that maybe slightly higher voltage would result in a hotter soldering iron temperature I have connected the secondary of a 120 volts in, 8 volts out transformer secondary in series with the 120 VAC power. My inexpensive DVM now indicates 130 VAC to my soldering iron but still no proper melting of solder. I have tried three different irons with the same failure to properly melt solder.

Is there something obvious that my "Parkinson" refined head is missing???

On Jul 15, 2021, at 8:55 AM, Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@...> wrote:

Sort of related -

I need to make an attenuator for my FT817 on transmit as a 432 MHz
microwave IF radio. I have the appropriate carbon-film resistors. I
measured them on my NanoVNA to see what they measure at 432 MHz. Two 200
ohm 1 watt resistors measure 198 ohms on my DVM. The NanoVNA measures 198
otms up to about 500 kHz, and then the resistance starts to climb. At 432
MHz they both measure 225 ohms with a small amount of inductance (12 nH). I
measured a 68 ohm carbon-film resistor with similar results - it measures
67.5 ohms with the DVM and the NanoVNA up to about 500 kHz. At 432 MHz it
measures 86 ohms and a small inductance. I measured a 100 ohm carbon
composition resistor. It measured 102 ohms on the DVM and with the NanoVNA
up to about 1 MHz. The resistance barely changed on the NanoVNA. At 432 MHz
it measured 106 ohms.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 3:30 AM Alan G4ZFQ <alan4alan@...> wrote:

Roland,

Thanks for looking.
It seems whenever meters like the LC-100 are mentioned for use with HF
Ls and Cs someone pops up inferring that the few 100s of KHz they use
will give wrong readings.

I was looking for evidence that such inductors exhibited different
values at different frequencies within their range but you have pointed
out the simple fact that 500KHz is not suitable for measuring mains
power components or VHF components.

Your link gives a good explanation and more detail. I think as you say
these meters are very unlikely to be a problem for checking components
specified for HF use.

73 Alan G4ZFQ

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