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Software development with C#

KD5NWA
 

Are any other C# platforms being successfully used to compile the Flex software other that MS Visual Studio ?

What about ;

Mono
Grasshopper
C#Builder

??

Cecil Bayona
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Re: Software Installation...

 

I had this exact same problem and it was my own error. I installed the PowerSDR and Framework.Net as expected. Then I downloaded the Softrock40 files to another directory. For some reason I tried to execute the Softrock40 files in their directory as an installation program. That's when I got the error you describe. I wasn't looking carefully at the whole situation :-) Then later on I copied the Softwrock40 files into the PowerSDR folder where they belonged. And it worked perfectly. It sounds like you might be executing the PowerSDR file from the wrong directory. Incidently I renamed the pertinent files in the PowerSDR directory instead of over witting them. Maybe you have an old shortcut which is calling the Softrock40 files away from the PowerSDR installation. Hope this helps :-)

Robert Hughes wrote:

Hello All,

I'm trying to install the PowerSDR software and the
following Fatal Error dialog box pops up behind the
splash screen:

Interop.ADOX or one of its dependencies was not found
at PowerSDR.DB.Create()
at PowerSDR.DB.Init()
at PowerSDR.Console..ctor(String[] args)
at PowerSDR.Console.Main(String[] args)

Any ideas as to how to deal with this problem?

The software had been previously installed and
working, but an issue arose and I needed to uninstall
it and now am trying to reinstall...

Thanks,
Bob - KI8JM


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Re: Software Installation...

Bill Tracey
 

Hello Bob

How and what did you uninstall? Hoping you did not uninstall the .NET framework. What did you reinstall?

I'd suggest going into Add/Remove programs (in Control Panel I think) and un installing PowerSDR if it says it is there. Then go to the directory PowerSDR was installed into and make sure it is empty. Then do an install of PowerSDR 1.4.4 from Flex-Radio. See if that comes up. Then install the SoftRock PowerSDR patches for 1.4.4 from .

Regards,

Bill (kd5tfd)

At 03:25 PM 10/4/2005, Robert Hughes wrote:
Hello All,

I'm trying to install the PowerSDR software and the
following Fatal Error dialog box pops up behind the
splash screen:

Interop.ADOX or one of its dependencies was not found
at PowerSDR.DB.Create()
at PowerSDR.DB.Init()
at PowerSDR.Console..ctor(String[] args)
at PowerSDR.Console.Main(String[] args)

Any ideas as to how to deal with this problem?

The software had been previously installed and
working, but an issue arose and I needed to uninstall
it and now am trying to reinstall...

Thanks,
Bob - KI8JM


Software Installation...

Robert Hughes
 

Hello All,

I'm trying to install the PowerSDR software and the
following Fatal Error dialog box pops up behind the
splash screen:

Interop.ADOX or one of its dependencies was not found
at PowerSDR.DB.Create()
at PowerSDR.DB.Init()
at PowerSDR.Console..ctor(String[] args)
at PowerSDR.Console.Main(String[] args)

Any ideas as to how to deal with this problem?

The software had been previously installed and
working, but an issue arose and I needed to uninstall
it and now am trying to reinstall...

Thanks,
Bob - KI8JM


Re: Minimum Computer for SR40 ?

EricJ
 

Depends entirely on your perception of what operation
in the "field" is. As soon as you mention "laptop" the
idea of "field operation" contracts to a few hours on
a picnic bench within reach of your car.

Laptops are battery hogs and most won't last more than
2 hours on battery power. The idea of lugging a laptop
that weights 5 or 10 times as much as the all the rest
of the QRP station and consumes 10-50 times as much
power isn't all that appealing for field use. And in
the end, it won't significantly outperform the analog
rigs costing 50-100 times less.

My Toshiba Satellite 1105, a low-end laptop that works
fine with the SR-40, weighs more and draws more than
my K1, K2 and KX1 COMBINED. That's why you don't see a
lot of digital mode use in the field.

The SR-40 is not a minimalist rig. It is a minimalist
rf plug-in for a relatively (by QRP standards) heavy,
complex, expensive computer. That's not criticizing
the SR-40; it's putting this new creature in
perspective. An SR-40 based SDR is primarily a
computer app. The hardware is a computer, and those
are still comparatively large and inefficient.

Current laptops are designed for desktop use or short
periods of "portable" use within sight of an AC
outlet. When computer hardware comes down in size and
power consumption, SDR in the field becomes practical.
It's already highly evolved and practical with analog
techniques.

Eric
KE6US
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--- "windy10605@..." <windy10605@...> wrote:

With all the excitement about the SR40 on 40m and
30m .....maybe 80m and 60m and keeping it simple
....pluggable bandswitching, etc ....I'm thinking
laptop, QRP CW operation in the field.

How much can you reduce the computer
load/requirement and still have acceptable
performance. What have you guys tried and had
success using ?

73 Kees K5BCQ



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Re: Battery power IS better. Photos prove it.

Richard Gagnon
 

--- In softrock40@..., Bill Dumke <billd@n...> wrote:
What N1RX folder?

Bill WB5TCO

Go to the Group and select Photos at the left side of the page. One of
the folders is N1RX. Click on it to open.

Richard


Re: Partial SoftRock40 kits

Tony Parks
 

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Hi Kees,
?
Five v4.0 SoftRock40 boards are packed and will be mailed this morning, October 4.
?
Thanks and 73,
Tony KB9YIG
?
?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [softrock40] Partial SoftRock40 kits

Hi Tony,

I would be interested in about 5 PCBs by themselves if you have that available.

?

73 Kees K5BCQ


Re: Minimum Computer for SR40 ?

Chris Waldrup
 

I had tried to load Power SDR on my workshop laptop over the weekend and it
hangs up at initializing DSP. The computer is a 1997 IBM Thinkpad 770
running Windows 98 with 160 MB of RAM. When I go to system properties, all
it says is Genuine Pentium, not the speed. I am assuming that it won't work
with this computer?
I got everything loaded last night on our new Dell 3 Ghz machine with no
errors after having to uninstall Power SDR a few times (I must have done
something wrong installing it since I got a fatal error) before figuring out
how to do it right. Thanks Chuck Carpenter for your how to from the Sept 24
QRP-L. I am no computer whiz at all and needed a lot of hand holding here!

Chris
KD4PBJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Brickle" <ab2kt@...>
To: <softrock40@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:31 AM
Subject: [softrock40] Re: Minimum Computer for SR40 ?


--- In softrock40@..., "windy10605@j..." <windy10605@j...>
wrote:
How much can you reduce the computer load/requirement and still have
acceptable performance. What have you guys tried and had success
using ?

By far the biggest portion of the computing power is eaten by the
console and graphics. The DSP is an amazingly small part of the total
computational load. The spectrum and associated display functions are
really the cycle hogs.

If you slow down the spectrum update rate to, say, 5 per second, or
turn it off completely, you don't need much machine to service the
essential radio functions. I've run the Linux version "headless," that
is, with no graphics at all, on a 533MHz Pentium.

73
Frank
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Re: Minimum Computer for SR40 ?

 

--- In softrock40@..., "windy10605@j..." <windy10605@j...>
wrote:
How much can you reduce the computer load/requirement and still have
acceptable performance. What have you guys tried and had success
using ?

By far the biggest portion of the computing power is eaten by the
console and graphics. The DSP is an amazingly small part of the total
computational load. The spectrum and associated display functions are
really the cycle hogs.

If you slow down the spectrum update rate to, say, 5 per second, or
turn it off completely, you don't need much machine to service the
essential radio functions. I've run the Linux version "headless," that
is, with no graphics at all, on a 533MHz Pentium.

73
Frank
AB2KT


Re: Minimum Computer for SR40 ?

 

I have been successful with using a < 1 GHz system with the on board audio
card. I am using an offline (not connected to the internet) computer. The
ASIO4ALL driver makes a big difference in performance. I have turned off the
virus checker and other spy blocking software as it is not needed. It can
take a while to find the combination that will work but once you find it the
SR-40 will be quite impressive. A high performance system is not necessary!
73 - Mike WA8BXN

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How much can you reduce the computer load/requirement and still have
acceptable performance. What have you guys tried and had success using ?

73 Kees K5BCQ


Minimum Computer for SR40 ?

 

With all the excitement about the SR40 on 40m and 30m .....maybe 80m and 60m and keeping it simple ....pluggable bandswitching, etc ....I'm thinking laptop, QRP CW operation in the field.

How much can you reduce the computer load/requirement and still have acceptable performance. What have you guys tried and had success using ?

73 Kees K5BCQ


Re: Partial SoftRock40 kits

Tony Parks
 

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Hi Kees,
?
Yes, after all the dust has cleared, I do have five of the v4.0 SoftRock40 PCBs I could sell you.? A fair price for each of the PCBs is $4 so five would be a total of $20.? That would include the mailing cost.
?
Please let me know if you still are interested in the five boards.
?
Thanks and 73,
Tony KB9YIG
?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [softrock40] Partial SoftRock40 kits

Hi Tony,

I would be interested in about 5 PCBs by themselves if you have that available.

?

73 Kees K5BCQ


Re: Battery power IS better. Photos prove it.

Bruce Beford
 

Click on "Photos" link in the blue box on the left side of the
screen in the softrock-40 group. You will be taken to the photos
section. Click on the N1RX folder.
-Bruce.

--- In softrock40@..., Bill Dumke <billd@n...> wrote:
What N1RX folder?

Bill WB5TCO

Bruce Beford wrote:

Apparently, my last message on this got lost in the server
somehwere.

I have uploaded two new photos to the N1RX folder that show the
difference between powering the SoftRock from the USB port vs
using
a battery powered supply.

Both photos show the central noise spike from an SR-40 connected
to
a dipole antenna. The only difference between the two photos are
the
source of power. In the first, the SR-40 is powered by the USB
port,
using the standard Q1 power conditioner. In the second, the SAME
SR-
40 is now powered by a 78L05 voltage regulator, driven by a
battery.
Notice the difference in the width of the central noise spike.

Better performance from the SR-40 can be obtained by running
from a
power source OTHER than the USB port on the computer. Battery
power
is best. For details on how to modify the SoftRock to use non-
computer power, see the other photos in the N1RX folder.

73,
Bruce N1RX




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Re: Battery power IS better. Photos prove it.

 

What N1RX folder?

Bill WB5TCO

Bruce Beford wrote:

Apparently, my last message on this got lost in the server somehwere.

I have uploaded two new photos to the N1RX folder that show the
difference between powering the SoftRock from the USB port vs using
a battery powered supply.

Both photos show the central noise spike from an SR-40 connected to
a dipole antenna. The only difference between the two photos are the
source of power. In the first, the SR-40 is powered by the USB port,
using the standard Q1 power conditioner. In the second, the SAME SR-
40 is now powered by a 78L05 voltage regulator, driven by a battery.
Notice the difference in the width of the central noise spike.

Better performance from the SR-40 can be obtained by running from a
power source OTHER than the USB port on the computer. Battery power
is best. For details on how to modify the SoftRock to use non-
computer power, see the other photos in the N1RX folder.

73,
Bruce N1RX




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Re: It works !

 

Hi Dick,

Yes, the Softrock works very well with the SD radio software on my older
PC running Windows 98. I have not had any success to date getting the
Flex Radio software operational on a newer PC running Windows 2000.

FB on the single audio channel downconverter. The SD radio software will
work with this also but there will be images present that will clutter up
the display, since there will be no way to reject the unwanted response.

I have used the SD radio program with the R2PRO which I believe is
similar to the binaural receiver design, this also works very well. Just
keep an offset of at least 5KHz or more to get away from the noise at the
center zero IF, true for all direct conversion receivers. Keeping the
offset makes the receiver operate as a superheterodyne receiver with a
low IF.

Happy experimenting
GL 73,
Bob Johansen WB2SRF


Board is Back

Chuck Carpenter
 

Tony,

Got the board back in the mail today. Nice job and thanks much. Need to get busy and stuff the rest of the parts.



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Re: It works !

patt896
 

Hi, Bob. I wondered whether that would work. I built a crystal
oscillator/mixer to down convert the final IF of a Heath SB-303 to 15
kHz audio for testing with IK2XL's single channel DSP routines.


Since I'm waiting for delivery of the SoftRock kit, I thought I'd try
running the oscillator thru the R2Pro UVFO phase shift network, into
a Binaural receiver and then into SDR1000.

Dick Patten



--- In softrock40@..., "Bob Johansen" <wb2srf@j...> wrote:
Completed assembly several days ago. Currently Using I2PHD's
program which I had already installed on my
PC
for experimenting with the R2PRO.

Was able to get at least 50dB of image rejection by carefully
adjusting
the amplitude and time delay settings in the program's control
panel.

Thanks to all involved for this interesting project

73,
Bob Johansen WB2SRF


Another SDR program for SR40

Nick and Sue Brown
 

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I have been unable to run Flex Radio's Power SDR on my windows ME system.? The program starts to initialize but stops and hangs while initializing the dsp function.? A while back some one else on the list reported the same problem on a windows 95 system.
?
I2PHD has another SDR program that seems to work fine with the SR40.? This program is available for?free download at .? The download is less than a meg and worked?as soon as I plugged the SR40 into the mike input of the soundcard rather than line-in.? I2PHD's program works fine with windows ME and may work with 95 too.? It's worth a try.
?
73,
Nick Brown?? AB0WE
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Re: [soft_radio] Epson SG-8002 Programmable Oscillator

 

Hi Cecil,

I would recommend steering clear of these programmable oscillators for any RF type work. The jitter is much too great for good RF performance.

73,

- Steve N7HPR

-----Original Message-----
From: KD5NWA <KD5NWA@...>
Sent: Oct 3, 2005 11:10 AM
To: soft_radio@...
Cc: softrock40@...
Subject: [soft_radio] Epson SG-8002 Programmable Oscillator


While looking for crystals for the SR-40, I'm considering buying some
Epson SG-8002 Programmable Oscillators the 50ppm type so I can dial
the frequency I need that are not available in crystals. They are
about $5.15 each

I'm a little concerned with clock jitter (phase noise), does anyone
have any experience with these chips?



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Epson SG-8002 Programmable Oscillator

KD5NWA
 

While looking for crystals for the SR-40, I'm considering buying some Epson SG-8002 Programmable Oscillators the 50ppm type so I can dial the frequency I need that are not available in crystals. They are about $5.15 each

I'm a little concerned with clock jitter (phase noise), does anyone have any experience with these chips?



Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com

'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.'