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I have the ability to run 4m (crossband). 2m, & 70cm plus VHF & UHF PMR (LMR) in various combinations using Tait T800 kit which gets deployed for Raynet (like ARES/RACES) Although there is kit set-up at home it's not usually switched on.
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I run 2 uhf repeaters, one on irlp ande one on all
star.? Sadly sites are scarce and expensive around here, so both are at my
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Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2024 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] How many hams have private
repeaters? #poll-notice
I have the ability to run 4m (crossband). 2m, & 70cm plus VHF & UHF
PMR (LMR) in various combinations using Tait T800 kit which gets deployed for
Raynet (like ARES/RACES) Although there is kit set-up at home it's not usually
switched on.
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What's the purpose of the poll?
Gary
On 9/14/2024 5:00 PM, w0rw wrote:
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A new poll has been created:
How many hams have private repeaters?
Just You, Your XYL and a Phone line.
If so, which band is it on?
(Your identity will not be shown).
1. 50 MHz
2. 146 MHz
3. 222MHz
4. 440MHz
5. 906 MHz
6. 1296 MHz
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I'd add cross-band repeaters to the poll (I have Parts 90 and 97 x-band repeaters). I also use Parts 90 and 95 for private repeaters.
Chuck | N2DUP
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There is no part 97 repeaters.?
I'd add cross-band repeaters to the poll (I have Parts 90 and 97 x-band repeaters). I also use Parts 90 and 95 for private repeaters.
Chuck | N2DUP
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FYI THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS PRIVATE REPEATERS TO BEGIN WITH? !!!!!!!!!!
There is no part 97 repeaters.?
I'd add cross-band repeaters to the poll (I have Parts 90 and 97 x-band repeaters). I also use Parts 90 and 95 for private repeaters.
Chuck | N2DUP
-- Paul Edwards?? N4DME Georgia State Leader P.E.R.T Patriot Emergency Response Team, Inc. Stephens County Amateur Radio Society - President, C.E.O
Union?County Asst.?Emergency Coordinator - N.i.m's Compliant Cert. Cherokee County?? NC. A.R.E.S - Liaison Former -Rabun County Emergency Coordinator
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What if you have no wife?? I never thought that was the purpose of a "private" repeater......
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W8LM
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how you figure that? ("THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS PRIVATE REPEATERS TO BEGIN WITH")
GeorgeC W2DB
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Sure is, “closed repeater”
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I have a, sort of, private repeater at home.? It is tied to D-star, DMR and Allstar, so I don't think it's really "private."
I also have a wife, sort of...
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Peter
Cowpaddy, AZ
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I run a 2m and 70cm repeater on my home tower.? I also run a gmrs repeater for a total of 3.?
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Yes there is where have you been.? Repeaters can be made private to club members only or to groups. You have the right to have a public or private repeater
how you figure that? ("THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS PRIVATE REPEATERS TO BEGIN WITH")
GeorgeC W2DB
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Wrong there are systems that are private only available except for club or group members.? Where have you been as they been around for many many years
FYI THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS PRIVATE REPEATERS TO BEGIN WITH? !!!!!!!!!!
There is no part 97 repeaters.?
I'd add cross-band repeaters to the poll (I have Parts 90 and 97 x-band repeaters). I also use Parts 90 and 95 for private repeaters.
Chuck | N2DUP
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Paul Edwards?? N4DME Georgia State Leader P.E.R.T Patriot Emergency Response Team, Inc. Stephens County Amateur Radio Society - President, C.E.O
Union?County Asst.?Emergency Coordinator - N.i.m's Compliant Cert. Cherokee County?? NC. A.R.E.S - Liaison Former -Rabun County Emergency Coordinator
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We should probably give Paul a break. The FCC database indicates
he's only an Amateur radio licensee, so it's possible he's
unfamiliar with the two-way radio industry.
Gary
On 9/15/2024 11:51 AM, Brad N8PC wrote:
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Wrong there are systems that are private only
available except for club or group members.? Where have you been
as they been around for many many years
FYI THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS PRIVATE
REPEATERS TO BEGIN WITH? !!!!!!!!!!
There is no part 97 repeaters.?
I'd add
cross-band repeaters to the poll (I have Parts
90 and 97 x-band repeaters). I also use Parts 90
and 95 for private repeaters.
Chuck | N2DUP
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Paul
Edwards?? N4DME
Georgia State Leader
P.E.R.T
Patriot
Emergency Response Team, Inc.
Stephens County Amateur Radio Society - President,
C.E.O
Union?County Asst.?Emergency
Coordinator - N.i.m's
Compliant Cert.
Cherokee
County?? NC. A.R.E.S
- Liaison
Former
-Rabun County Emergency Coordinator
n4dme1@...
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In East Texas a private repeater means a Ham owns his repeater and it is not a club, organization or etc. He can put it on any frequency except protected frequencies and any Ham can put their repeater on his frequency if they want to because it is not protected. Hams have two choices here. Not protected which is a “Back Yard” repeater or a Protected repeater which they have to apply for and get approval. Basically when we hear private repeater we know it means the Ham owns it and not a club or etc. ? Floyd, KF5YDH ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? R ? ? ? ? p ? ? ? ? ? ‘Back YYYard” ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Brad N8PC Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2024 11:52 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] How many hams have private repeaters? ? Wrong there are systems that are private only available except for club or group members.? Where have you been as they been around for many many years ? FYI THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS PRIVATE REPEATERS TO BEGIN WITH? !!!!!!!!!! ? There is no part 97 repeaters.? ? I'd add cross-band repeaters to the poll (I have Parts 90 and 97 x-band repeaters). I also use Parts 90 and 95 for private repeaters. ?
-- Paul Edwards?? N4DME Georgia State Leader P.E.R.T Patriot Emergency Response Team, Inc. Stephens County Amateur Radio Society - President, C.E.O Union?County Asst.?Emergency Coordinator - N.i.m's Compliant Cert. Cherokee County?? NC. A.R.E.S - Liaison Former -Rabun County Emergency Coordinator ? n4dme1@...
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Incorrect... Plenty of closed repeaters in Texas operated by clubs such as Armadillo and Interior on UHF and some on 2m.? Backyard repeaters in Texas are limited to 100watts and 100ft on specific channels...mostly 440-442 range...145.25 is used somewhat similarly but it is called a Builders Channel....They can be coordinated closer than normal due to limited range and use of different ctcss tones
Chris WB5ITT?
In East Texas a private repeater means a Ham owns his repeater and it is not a club, organization or etc. He can put it on any frequency except protected frequencies and any Ham can put their repeater on his frequency if they want to because it is not protected. Hams have two choices here. Not protected which is a “Back Yard” repeater or a Protected repeater which they have to apply for and get approval. Basically when we hear private repeater we know it means the Ham owns it and not a club or etc. ? Floyd, KF5YDH ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? R ? ? ? ? p ? ? ? ? ? ‘Back YYYard” ? ? Wrong there are systems that are private only available except for club or group members.? Where have you been as they been around for many many years ? FYI THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS PRIVATE REPEATERS TO BEGIN WITH? !!!!!!!!!! ? There is no part 97 repeaters.? ? I'd add cross-band repeaters to the poll (I have Parts 90 and 97 x-band repeaters). I also use Parts 90 and 95 for private repeaters. ?
-- Paul Edwards?? N4DME Georgia State Leader P.E.R.T Patriot Emergency Response Team, Inc. Stephens County Amateur Radio Society - President, C.E.O Union?County Asst.?Emergency Coordinator - N.i.m's Compliant Cert. Cherokee County?? NC. A.R.E.S - Liaison Former -Rabun County Emergency Coordinator ? n4dme1@...
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At 9/14/2024 10:41 PM, you wrote:
FYI THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS
PRIVATE REPEATERS TO BEGIN WITH?? !!!!!!!!!!
Paul Edwards? ??
N4DME
FCC Part 97.205 (e):
"Ancillary functions of a repeater that are available
to users on the input channel are not considered remotely controlled
functions of the station. Limiting the use of a repeater to only certain
user stations is permissible."
That 2nd sentence pretty much defines a private repeater.? We
have hundreds of them in SoCal; I have several.? So I can assure you
they do exist.
Bob NO6B
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I think the terminology of this thread is confusing.
To me a private repeater is privately owned and can be open or
closed.
A repeater owned by a group is not private but can also be open or
closed.
These terms only apply to amateur because in the Part 90 world all
repeaters are closed.
All repeaters are private but some are owned by dealers who lease
service on them.
I control several in each category but none of the amateur repeaters
are closed.
Is the original question meant to ask who has a closed repeater?
Roger , N5QS
On 9/15/2024 9:17 AM, n3qam via
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Sure is, “closed repeater”
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If you go by the wording of the repeater directories ?and how they ?list repeaters for the past 30 years or more, I think it’s safe to assume that most people would agree that private=closed. ? Meaning that regardless of coordination status, that if it’s listed as closed, it’s not open for anyone to use as they wish, one would need permission, etc.?
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On the other hand, when i ?think of a “private” repeater, I think of one that’s licensed part 90 to an individual, business or entity. ??
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I agree with Bob NO6B.
An amateur radio license allows hams to operate on FREQUENCIES permitted by their class of license but individual repeater owners and clubs can control access to their EQUIPMENT. This is well established, not only with the wording Bob posted but by the fact that the FCC has ordered some individuals to cease and desist operating on repeaters when the repeater owner/club has advised them that they are not welcome.
I prefer "open" repeaters but can completely understand that some repeaters are "closed," and I honor the wishes of those repeater owners.
To answer the poll question, I do not.
73 de Dave WB6KHP San Jose
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Larry Macionski
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Chris Boone WB5ITT