Re: Yearly support request - Repeater Builder? website - W3KKC
Group,
I apologize that I haven't had the time to thank everyone individually / privately for their generosity.
So - Thank You All - each and every one!
Kevin W3KKC
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Re: Need documentation for SS-32M tone encoder
Will this help??? It's on repeater-builder.??
The diagram at the top right shows that solder pad #1 is the one at the corner of the board, and the tone table lists the tones.
My memory of the one (only one) SS32M that I played with a number of years ago is that a solder blob is a zero,
so no blobs is all ones which is tone #32 which is 203.5 Hz.
Mike WA6ILQ
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Re: Yearly support request - Repeater Builder? website - W3KKC
Done here as well.? ¨CMike, K4CVL ?
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Sent: Friday, November 04, 2022 1:00 PM
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On Nov 2, 2022, at 18:15, Kevin Custer <kuggie@...> wrote: ? Hello everyone,
Once a year I ask for financial support to help defray the costs associated with the upkeep and furtherance of free repeater related help sites.? Repeater Builder continues to grow as we add information over the course of time.? With your donation, we'll be able to maintain the site, keeping it free.? Whether it be manuals or quality conversion articles, all information is provided free of charge.? There are literally thousands of .? Several manufacturers of repeater related equipment have gone out of business, but you can count on RB to continue to provide owners manuals and other information pertaining to these companies into the future.? Because of its size - even this group (on groups.io) is not free.
If the Repeater Builder website or this group has helped you, would you please consider a small donation to help keep them going?? Donations via regular mail (address provided below) or PayPal are greatly appreciated!
An online donation can be made by going to the and clicking on the PayPal Donate button:
Or, by postal mail at:
Kevin Custer
79 Cochise Court
Palm Coast FL 32137
I'd like to thank my webmasters Matt Wagner N1ZYY and Mike Morris WA6ILQ who have stepped up in the absence of Bob Meister WA1MIK who passed away unexpectedly.? It is an enormous task to keep the site up to date.? I'd also like to thank the numerous authors and contributors who keep the articles and content coming - and of course my Email Group Moderators for their continued support.
Repeater Builder? is a registered trademark in the United States of America, and is owned by me.
is a company owned by me, where I sell some small project kits and products for (mainly) hams.
is owned by Scott Zimmerman N3XCC and he is licensed for the use of the name in his business (since 2001).
All of this sometimes causes confusion which can be sorted out here:
Again - - Thank-You very much for your continued support!
Comments or questions are always welcomed - please call or email.
73,
Kevin W3KKC
kuggie@...
kevin@...
(814) 313-4036 (reasonably hours eastern time)
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Dave McBrayer? N6OJJ
Auburn, CA
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Re: Need documentation for SS-32M tone encoder
* On 2022 04 Nov 12:16 -0500, Jim Barbour wrote: As far as I know, the dip switch settings for all SS-32/TS-32's are the
same. This one does not have DIP switches but has solder pads to set the tone. I'm not sure which is number 1 as the board is not labeled. There is a sticker applied to the inside of the radio's cover that shows the tone legend but it is also mum on which pin should be number 1. I also have to raise the deviation as it barely registers on my service monitor. Would a picture of it be of help? 73, Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: Projects: GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819
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Re: BTECH AMP-220 Amplifier
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 12:38 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
It also looks like the FET wasn't soldered in very well...kinda 'blobby'...
?Yeah, it's not pretty.? When I first saw that the amp wasn't working correctly (after taking these pics), I actually desoldered and removed the FET to make sure that the solder job wasn't part of the problem. The copper heatspreader is actually way thicker than the PCB, so the FET actually sits a considerable height above the board.? Whoever put the FET in, actually placed a small piece of lead from a through-hole component under the Drain and Gate leads to help give the solder something to flow onto when bridging the gap between the FET & PCB.
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Re: Need documentation for SS-32M tone encoder
As far as I know, the dip switch settings for all SS-32/TS-32's are the same.
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On 11/4/2022 1:01 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: Hi all.
I have a friend that bought a radio with a Communications Specialists
SS-32M that we need to change the tone. However, the only documentation
I've been able to find on the Com Spec Web site and here on the Repeater
Builder site is for the SS-32MP which seems to have a different layout
and component count.
Does anyone have the document for the SS-32M?
TIA
73, Nate, N0NB
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Re: Yearly support request - Repeater Builder? website - W3KKC
Thanks for what you do at RB!
I only had $10 to spare, but I challenge all users to do the same.
DONE
W6JKW
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Need documentation for SS-32M tone encoder
Hi all.
I have a friend that bought a radio with a Communications Specialists
SS-32M that we need to change the tone. However, the only documentation
I've been able to find on the Com Spec Web site and here on the Repeater
Builder site is for the SS-32MP which seems to have a different layout
and component count.
Does anyone have the document for the SS-32M?
TIA
73, Nate, N0NB
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."
Web:
Projects:
GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819
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Re: Yearly support request - Repeater Builder? website - W3KKC
DONE. ?
Dave McBrayer, ?N6OJJ Auburn, CA? ¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª
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On Nov 2, 2022, at 18:15, Kevin Custer <kuggie@...> wrote:
?
Hello everyone,
Once a year I ask for financial support to help defray the costs
associated with the upkeep and furtherance of free repeater related
help sites.? Repeater Builder continues to grow as we add
information over the course of time.? With your donation, we'll be
able to maintain the site, keeping it free.? Whether it be manuals
or quality conversion articles, all information is provided free of
charge.? There are literally thousands of .? Several manufacturers of repeater
related equipment have gone out of business, but you can count on RB
to continue to provide owners manuals and other information
pertaining to these companies into the future.? Because of its size
- even this group (on groups.io) is not free.
If the Repeater Builder website or this group has helped you, would
you please consider a small donation to help keep them going??
Donations via regular mail (address provided below) or PayPal are
greatly appreciated!
An online donation can be made by going to the and clicking on the PayPal Donate button:
Or, by postal mail at:
Kevin Custer
79 Cochise Court
Palm Coast FL 32137
I'd like to thank my webmasters Matt Wagner N1ZYY and Mike Morris
WA6ILQ who have stepped up in the absence of Bob Meister WA1MIK who
passed away unexpectedly.? It is an enormous task to keep the site
up to date.? I'd also like to thank the numerous authors and
contributors who keep the articles and content coming - and of
course my Email Group Moderators for their continued
support.
Repeater Builder? is a registered trademark in the United States of
America, and is owned by me.
is a company owned by me, where I sell some
small project kits and products for (mainly) hams.
is owned by Scott Zimmerman N3XCC and he
is licensed for the use of the name in his business (since 2001).
All of this sometimes causes confusion which can be sorted out here:
Again - - Thank-You very much for your continued support!
Comments or questions are always welcomed - please call or email.
73,
Kevin W3KKC
kuggie@...
kevin@...
(814) 313-4036 (reasonably hours eastern time)
--
Dave McBrayer? N6OJJ
Auburn, CA
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Re: BTECH AMP-220 Amplifier
It also looks like the FET wasn't soldered in very well...kinda 'blobby'...
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On 11/4/2022 12:17 PM, Cliff - KE8ADK wrote: Well, curiosity got the better of me, so I went out and bought one of these to see what was inside. Honestly, I'm disappointed.? The construction is good enough for a $100 amp, but performance is off.
I actually purchased 2. What I found is that both units have incredibly high input SWR.? They must have done a poor job of impedance matching the input.? You can tell that this board is used to make many amplifier configurations.? It makes me wonder if they actually populated these like the standard VHF amp rather than the 220 Mhz version, hence why the SWR is so high.
The transistor is a Mitsubishi RD35HUP2, A 35 watt single MOSFET amp.? I believe it's bigger brother, the RD70HUP2 is used in some Yaesu VHF radios.
One drawback is that it does not appear to have a place to connect PTT. From what I can tell, it appears to only have RF sense.
If anyone has questions or would like to see additional pictures, let me know.
Overview 1
Overview 2
MOSFET (RD35HUP2)
Input Path
Output Path 1
Output Path 2
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Re: BTECH AMP-220 Amplifier
Well, curiosity got the better of me, so I went out and bought one of these to see what was inside. Honestly, I'm disappointed.? The construction is good enough for a $100 amp, but performance is off.
I actually purchased 2. What I found is that both units have incredibly high input SWR.? They must have done a poor job of impedance matching the input.? You can tell that this board is used to make many amplifier configurations.? It makes me wonder if they actually populated these like the standard VHF amp rather than the 220 Mhz version, hence why the SWR is so high.
The transistor is a Mitsubishi RD35HUP2, A 35 watt single MOSFET amp.? I believe it's bigger brother, the RD70HUP2 is used in some Yaesu VHF radios.
One drawback is that it does not appear to have a place to connect PTT. From what I can tell, it appears to only have RF sense.
If anyone has questions or would like to see additional pictures, let me know.
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Overview 1
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Overview 2
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MOSFET (RD35HUP2)
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Re: Yearly support request - Repeater Builder? website - W3KKC
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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2022 6:15 PM
Subject: [repeater-builder] Yearly support request - Repeater
Builder? website - W3KKC
?
Hello
everyone, Once a year I ask for financial support to help defray the
costs associated with the upkeep and furtherance of free repeater related help
sites.? Repeater Builder continues to grow as we add information over the
course of time.? With your donation, we'll be able to maintain the site,
keeping it free.? Whether it be manuals or quality conversion articles, all
information is provided free of charge.? There are literally thousands of
.? Several manufacturers of repeater related equipment have
gone out of business, but you can count on RB to continue to provide owners
manuals and other information pertaining to these companies into the
future.? Because of its size - even this group (on groups.io) is not
free. If the Repeater Builder website or this group has helped you, would
you please consider a small donation to help keep them going?? Donations
via regular mail (address provided below) or PayPal are greatly
appreciated! An online donation can be made by going to the and clicking on the PayPal Donate button: Or, by postal
mail at: Kevin Custer 79 Cochise Court Palm Coast FL 32137 I'd
like to thank my webmasters Matt Wagner N1ZYY and Mike Morris WA6ILQ who have
stepped up in the absence of Bob Meister WA1MIK who passed away
unexpectedly.? It is an enormous task to keep the site up to date.?
I'd also like to thank the numerous authors and contributors who keep the
articles and content coming - and of course my Email Group Moderators for
their continued support. Repeater Builder? is a registered trademark in
the United States of America, and is owned by me. is a company owned by me, where I sell some small project
kits and products for (mainly) hams. is owned by Scott
Zimmerman N3XCC and he is licensed for the use of the name in his business
(since 2001). All of this sometimes causes confusion which can be sorted out
here: Again - -
Thank-You very much for your continued support!Comments or
questions are always welcomed - please call or email. 73, Kevin
W3KKC kuggie@...kevin@...(814)
313-4036 (reasonably hours eastern time)
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Re: Yearly support request - Repeater Builder? website - W3KKC
Done,
Allan Overcast KF7FW
Audio Test Solutions, Inc.
rlccontrollers.com
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Re: Kenwood TK-7302 input audio pin 5
I believe pin 5 is not pre-emphasized. It is marked ¡°DI¡± which on other Kenwood's of mine *has* been sufficient for mmdvm/9600 baud, so you might be OK.?
On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 12:12 PM K6EEN - Leif < lharcke@...> wrote: Anyone know if pin 5 on the rear DB-15 connector on the TK-7302 is just "external mic" input with associated filtering/pre-emphasis and good for only 1200 baud packet, or if it can also be set to 9600/data for connection to a MMDVM repeater controller modulating DMR, Yaesu C4FM, and/or D-STAR?? I'm working with a local radio shop on this who has the software, want to advise them correctly on how to set up the radio as an MMDVM transmitter.
Thanks & 73 de K6EEN
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Re: Kenwood KPG89D serial number
Call your local Kenwood dealer and purchase the software - or reach out to one of the several on this list and buy it from them.
Pretty sure asking for software on this list is not allowed and asking for a serial number is just as bad.
Dan Woodie, CETsr KC8ZUM?
On Thu, Nov 3, 2022, 8:05 PM Brian Horst < k5in@...> wrote: Hi, ? Simply need that serial number. ? Brian, k5in
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Kenwood KPG89D serial number
Hi, ? Simply need that serial number. ? Brian, k5in
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Re: VHF MTR2000 Poor Receive Performance
Yikes!!? This tells me you need to read up on calibrations first.? If "someone said" it was 1kc low, then you can't trust anything.? Period.
You have a R1200?? Like 50 years old?? I would be looking for what is wrong with it.? All equipment has weak and strong points.? It is
very important to get used to what to expect from your equipment.? If this instrument is "new to you", you need to learn all you can
about the maintenance issues of that instrument, and how to calibrate and how to come up with calibration techniques and to understand
the limitations and uncertaintees you may encounter.? Then take it to a friend with much better equipment and compare and get some
more tips.?
On VHF conventional, we were always taught to set to better than 100Hz error.?? Very much better for simulcast systems and systems
that are co-channel so you can reduce heterodynes in normal operation. ? Back in the 80s we were required to have our service
monitors within 4hz of the primary standard on 800 Mhz in order to be able to qualify to be able to "touch" the equipment.? It sounds
to me that you have a very good chance of making things worse.?
Don't be afraid to put the machine up as is.? After you get your service monitor all checked out and trustworthy you will have room
for improvement that users will notice (fur sure they always complain).? If you wait too long you might find something else on your
frequency.? Do you even have time before the snow is a problem?
On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 10:39 AM, Jared Smudde wrote:
It certainly is worth getting the receiver back to where it belongs. I¡¯m not going to take the time and drive to the site and install everything just for it to continue to be deaf and run like garbage.
The previous owner of the service monitor said the level was accurate to the dial but was 1khz low. But I still use my spectrum analyzer and make sure it¡¯s on frequency and the level is correct. I know it¡¯s a Rigol but it¡¯s better than anything.
I don¡¯t know if the receiver is on frequency, I guess I should figure out how to do that.
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Kenwood TK-7302 input audio pin 5
Anyone know if pin 5 on the rear DB-15 connector on the TK-7302 is just "external mic" input with associated filtering/pre-emphasis and good for only 1200 baud packet, or if it can also be set to 9600/data for connection to a MMDVM repeater controller modulating DMR, Yaesu C4FM, and/or D-STAR?? I'm working with a local radio shop on this who has the software, want to advise them correctly on how to set up the radio as an MMDVM transmitter.
Thanks & 73 de K6EEN
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Re: VHF MTR2000 Poor Receive Performance
And the signal generator output is accurate?
Get someone with a more current and calibrated unit to verify.
Seems to me you are using an R1200 service monitor that is 50+
years old?
73, Jim W7RY
On 11/2/2022 11:53 AM, Mike Besemer -
WM4B wrote:
Are we sure the receiver (and/or the service monitor) is
on-frequency?
Mike
WM4B
On November 2, 2022 at 12:47 PM "Bob
Dengler via groups.io" <no6b@...>
wrote:
At 11/2/2022 09:35 AM, you wrote:
>Spec for the MTR2000 VHF is 0.35 uv or -116 dbm at 12db
SINAD, so his receiver is pretty close.
1 dB less than that is typically what I get out of a MASTR II or
MVP, which has the same spec. However, at least here in SoCal
that's pretty much equal to the noise floor on 2 meters.
Depending on the site I may or may not try adding a preamp; in
most cases no because the actual S/N improvement is
insignificant. However at 0.4 uV that's 2 dB worse, which in
most cases would clearly be throwing away S/N. So I wouldn't be
happy with 0.4 uV either - worth getting that 1 dB or
(hopefully) more back.
Bob NO6B
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Thanks and 73, Jim W7RY
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Kevin Custer
k4cvl
K6EEN - Leif